Steelers shopping Wallace?

[ikestops85]

Where are the Deadskins when you need them? I still remember them offering 2 1st rounders for Ocho Stinko a few years ago ... and in typical Bungal fashion Mike Brown turned them down.

[Oviedo]

Where are the Deadskins when you need them? I still remember them offering 2 1st rounders for Ocho Stinko a few years ago ... and in typical Bungal fashion Mike Brown turned them down.

Chad Johnson was a way much more complete, talented receiver in his prime than Wallace. Wallace just gets way over-rated because of the uniform he wears and that he runs fast.

[Djfan]

Where are the Deadskins when you need them? I still remember them offering 2 1st rounders for Ocho Stinko a few years ago ... and in typical Bungal fashion Mike Brown turned them down.

This still makes me laugh. All sides are just dumb.

[Steelersrock151]

If he must be traded (and I prefer that he stay with the team), St. Louis #33 pick and a 3rd or 4th rounder next year. With a night to think about who has unexpectedly fallen into the second round, someone will offer a 2nd and third for the pick. We get three picks for him, two of which will help immediately (mid 2nd/mid 3rd).

[feltdizz]

With the Pens looking like they will be swept... expect a ton of stories, rumors and crazy talk from the beat writers in Pittsburgh.

[ikestops85]

I think a lot of you guys severely underestimate the receiving ability of Mike Wallace. You think Wallace is just fast and that is the end of his talent. There have been many "fast" receivers who have tried to make it in this league and failed. Willie Reid ran a 4.3x but he didn't excel as a receiver. Chad Jackson ran something in the low 4.3s if I remember correctly and he is out of the NFL. Speed is a great thing to have but you have to know how to use it.

To retain Wallace we are going to have to give him a contract similar or a little higher than DeSean Jackson. I'd be happy if we could sign him to a contract that size.

[Oviedo]

I think a lot of you guys severely underestimate the receiving ability of Mike Wallace. You think Wallace is just fast and that is the end of his talent. There have been many "fast" receivers who have tried to make it in this league and failed. Willie Reid ran a 4.3x but he didn't excel as a receiver. Chad Jackson ran something in the low 4.3s if I remember correctly and he is out of the NFL. Speed is a great thing to have but you have to know how to use it.

To retain Wallace we are going to have to give him a contract similar or a little higher than DeSean Jackson. I'd be happy if we could sign him to a contract that size.

I think there is probably an equal number of who underestimate as there are those or overestimate Wallace's receiving abilities. The reality is that Wallace is not as good at some things than brown or Sanders. Those are route running, adjusting to the ball in the air, highpointing the ball when covered, etc. Wallace is good and hopefully he will get better for the Steelers but he is not yet a truly elite receiver.

The problem is he wants to get paid like he has already arrived. In the opinion of many fans he hasn't yet fully arrived and it doesn't appear like the Steelers think he has yet either. IMO it is highly unlikely that the Steelers commit 7-8% of their total salary cap to a single WR who may not even be our best when it is all said and done.

This is a big year for Wallace to prove it, unfortunately he doesn't seem like he anxious to come here and prove it. IMO, the Steelers will wait to see who has the better season between Wallace and Brown. Brown will be here performing and we aren't sure about Wallace. Not a strategy that works with the Steelers based on extensive history.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Should the Saints be shopping Drew Brees because he refuses to sign his franchise tag and won't be attending any of the offseason workouts until a long-term extension is signed?

[ikestops85]

I think there is probably an equal number of who underestimate as there are those or overestimate Wallace's receiving abilities. The reality is that Wallace is not as good at some things than brown or Sanders. Those are route running, adjusting to the ball in the air, highpointing the ball when covered, etc. Wallace is good and hopefully he will get better for the Steelers but he is not yet a truly elite receiver.

The problem is he wants to get paid like he has already arrived. In the opinion of many fans he hasn't yet fully arrived and it doesn't appear like the Steelers think he has yet either. IMO it is highly unlikely that the Steelers commit 7-8% of their total salary cap to a single WR who may not even be our best when it is all said and done.

This is a big year for Wallace to prove it, unfortunately he doesn't seem like he anxious to come here and prove it. IMO, the Steelers will wait to see who has the better season between Wallace and Brown. Brown will be here performing and we aren't sure about Wallace. Not a strategy that works with the Steelers based on extensive history.

Just curious but do you think DeSean Jackson has arrived?

[Oviedo]

Just curious but do you think DeSean Jackson has arrived?

Nope and the Eagles giving him what he is asking for is stupid too.

[Oviedo]

Should the Saints be shopping Drew Brees because he refuses to sign his franchise tag and won't be attending any of the offseason workouts until a long-term extension is signed?

Brees has proven alot more than Wallace for alot longer, but you knew that.

[Shawn]

Is Wallace elite? I think that depends on your definition. He puts up elite numbers, and does one thing really well...run fast. He takes the top off of coverage and forces D's to play deep. That is huge. Right now, it doesn't really matter that he is an average route runner with average hands, and really doesn't fight for balls...because he does that really fast running thing really well. But, it will. And that is my concern. Wallace is not a complete WR, and once he loses a step in speed, he will look very average unless he improves greatly. I want to keep him but I do not wish to spend 10 million per season to retain his services.

[Sugar]

Is Wallace elite? I think that depends on your definition. He puts up elite numbers, and does one thing really well...run fast. He takes the top off of coverage and forces D's to play deep. That is huge. Right now, it doesn't really matter that he is an average route runner with average hands, and really doesn't fight for balls...because he does that really fast running thing really well. But, it will. And that is my concern. Wallace is not a complete WR, and once he loses a step in speed, he will look very average unless he improves greatly. I want to keep him but I do not wish to spend 10 million per season to retain his services.

Then lets keep him for the next 5-6 years while he has the one thing and pay the man. Fast guys aren't known to slow down until they get into their 30's. Who knows, by then he might even be a more complete receiver? If not, it's cool, we can unload him then.

[Oviedo]

Then lets keep him for the next 5-6 years while he has the one thing and pay the man. Fast guys aren't known to slow down until they get into their 30's. Who knows, by then he might even be a more complete receiver? If not, it's cool, we can unload him then.

One injury and he loses the one thing he has. That is why they can't overpay for him. If Brown loses a step he still has other skills he can rely on as a possession receiver. Not sure Wallace does.

[Chadman]

It's one thing to say Wallace isn't in the same class as Larry Fitzgerald etc (despite the numbers saying he is...but Chadman digresses..), but can we please stop eluding to the possibility that Brown & Sanders are more 'complete' WR's until they at the least prove that they are in Wallace's league?

Antonio Brown had a very good half season to add to a somewhat promising rookie year. Wallace has 3 years of elite production to his name. Let's not overlook that when we use context. And to include Sanders at this point just looks like a vendetta against Wallace, as Sanders has proven NOTHING to back up any argument.

It's a similar argument to the "Redman is better than Mendenhall" thing that is running on this board. Redman has proven a capable back-up. Mendenhall has a couple of 1000 yard seasons to his name. Redman has a couple of 100 yard games to his name. Maybe, while we are at it, we should convince ourselves Jonathon Dwyer should be the starting RB- he has a 100 yard game to his name too..

There is something to be said for proven success...