Mike Adams in many mock drafts

[Shawn]

Chadman, I am a Buckeye fan and have watched most of his college games. I didn't just read a draft analysis and look at a youtube video break down of his play. I have had my eye on him for quite sometime because he came to OSU with much fanfare and hub bub. He was the next coming of Orlando Pace...big, athletic, and supposedly a blue chipper. But, he has underperformed until his senior year at OSU. He has been a turnstyle for opposing D's for years. If you want to see a guy dominate an OLman...then on the next play get abused by the same lineman...look no further than Adams. He is Kemo 2.0, when it comes to inconsistency. So, you can't just watch his highlights...his highlights are great and all but it's that play to play inconsistency that kills him. He lacks motivation, a mean streak and a work ethic.

He showed us this year that he can be a special LT in the NFL, IF he were properly motivated. That is a HUGE IF from a first round pick. When a player only turns it on during money years, a red flag waves in my head.

[Oviedo]

I think some Tier 2 OTs like Zebrie Sanders and Bobby Massie would be just as good or better than Adams. It is not that Adams lacks the physical ability, but as many have posted he has not translated that into peformance to to warrant being a #1. IMO he could be Jamain Stephens all over again...look like Tarzan play like Jane!!!!!!

[phillyesq]

Chadman, I am a Buckeye fan and have watched most of his college games. I didn't just read a draft analysis and look at a youtube video break down of his play. I have had my eye on him for quite sometime because he came to OSU with much fanfare and hub bub. He was the next coming of Orlando Pace...big, athletic, and supposedly a blue chipper. But, he has underperformed until his senior year at OSU. He has been a turnstyle for opposing D's for years. If you want to see a guy dominate an OLman...then on the next play get abused by the same lineman...look no further than Adams. He is Kemo 2.0, when it comes to inconsistency. So, you can't just watch his highlights...his highlights are great and all but it's that play to play inconsistency that kills him. He lacks motivation, a mean streak and a work ethic.

He showed us this year that he can be a special LT in the NFL, IF he were properly motivated. That is a HUGE IF from a first round pick. When a player only turns it on during money years, a red flag waves in my head.

Sounds like a fine gamble in the second round, but hardly the type on whom you would spend a first round pick.

[Chadman]

Chadman, I am a Buckeye fan and have watched most of his college games. I didn't just read a draft analysis and look at a youtube video break down of his play. I have had my eye on him for quite sometime because he came to OSU with much fanfare and hub bub. He was the next coming of Orlando Pace...big, athletic, and supposedly a blue chipper. But, he has underperformed until his senior year at OSU. He has been a turnstyle for opposing D's for years. If you want to see a guy dominate an OLman...then on the next play get abused by the same lineman...look no further than Adams. He is Kemo 2.0, when it comes to inconsistency. So, you can't just watch his highlights...his highlights are great and all but it's that play to play inconsistency that kills him. He lacks motivation, a mean streak and a work ethic.

He showed us this year that he can be a special LT in the NFL, IF he were properly motivated. That is a HUGE IF from a first round pick. When a player only turns it on during money years, a red flag waves in my head.

Chadman appreciates your view of Adams Shawn- but there is one nagging thing going on in Chadman's head- if he's so inconsistant, if he's as bad as a few on here think he is- why is he considered a 1st Round talent? He must have done something right...right?

Keep in mind, quite often the most critical & negative analysis of a player or team will come from the very fans that support them- we paint these guys up as Gods & if they don't perform to the level we expect- they are failures. Willie Colon comes to mind- a guy routinely bashed on this board, yet valued highly by the guys making decisions.

Obviously, Chadman hasn't got the same experience or tools at hand to give great analysis on Adams as you do. That isn't in question at all. Yet, to counter your argument about Adams only 'switching it on' last season- the 'highlights' clip Chadman added earlier was from 2010, not 2011. While he has some negative plays in there- he still makes a number of dominant plays.

[Chadman]

I think some Tier 2 OTs like Zebrie Sanders and Bobby Massie would be just as good or better than Adams. It is not that Adams lacks the physical ability, but as many have posted he has not translated that into peformance to to warrant being a #1. IMO he could be Jamain Stephens all over again...look like Tarzan play like Jane!!!!!!

Agreed Ovi- if the Steelers pick a D-player in Round 1 (Ahem..Jerrel Worthy...), then Sanders, Massie or Washington would be good selections in Round 2. That said- Sanders & Massie may be no better than Marcus Gilbert- and in fact may be better served at RT instead of LT, so they may not actually be great selections for the Steelers at this stage.

[birtikidis]

Chadman, we may need a RT at some point, remember all those injuries to Colon?
I'd still like to see us get a guard in the first 3 rounds. I'm not as worried about tackle as some. If we get a true guard and something happens to Colon, bump Foster out to Tackle. It's his natural position after all.

[Chadman]

Chadman, we may need a RT at some point, remember all those injuries to Colon?
I'd still like to see us get a guard in the first 3 rounds. I'm not as worried about tackle as some. If we get a true guard and something happens to Colon, bump Foster out to Tackle. It's his natural position after all.

Honestly- there are question marks on all the OL positions outside of Pouncey. Colon & Gilbert are fine players- but in Chadman's opinion, out of position- Colon should move to RG, Gilbert to RT. The question marks start to drop off at that point.

Was watching some youtube footage of Brandon Washington the other day- played LT for Miami & looked pretty good- if a little shorter than you'd hope for...Steelers DID attend Miami's Pro Day with Tomlin, Haley & Kugs...

[birtikidis]

honestly, I think Colon should be the swing tackle. I wouldn't start him anywhere. I think Gilbert could be fine at LT IF we put a good guard next to him. Our LG has always been a mauler. Rarely do we put a guy there who is known as a good pass blocker. Seems to me, there sure is a lot of space between the LT and LG when the LT has to account for a wide outside speed rush and our LG is routinely beat by the inside blitz by the LB. we also have a lot of trouble picking up stunts because that LG is so weak at pass blocking. See where I'm going here?

[Chadman]

honestly, I think Colon should be the swing tackle. I wouldn't start him anywhere. I think Gilbert could be fine at LT IF we put a good guard next to him. Our LG has always been a mauler. Rarely do we put a guy there who is known as a good pass blocker. Seems to me, there sure is a lot of space between the LT and LG when the LT has to account for a wide outside speed rush and our LG is routinely beat by the inside blitz by the LB. we also have a lot of trouble picking up stunts because that LG is so weak at pass blocking. See where I'm going here?

It's entirely possible you are correct.....so...Brandon Washington to LG then?

[Shawn]

Chadman appreciates your view of Adams Shawn- but there is one nagging thing going on in Chadman's head- if he's so inconsistant, if he's as bad as a few on here think he is- why is he considered a 1st Round talent? He must have done something right...right?

Keep in mind, quite often the most critical & negative analysis of a player or team will come from the very fans that support them- we paint these guys up as Gods & if they don't perform to the level we expect- they are failures. Willie Colon comes to mind- a guy routinely bashed on this board, yet valued highly by the guys making decisions.

Obviously, Chadman hasn't got the same experience or tools at hand to give great analysis on Adams as you do. That isn't in question at all. Yet, to counter your argument about Adams only 'switching it on' last season- the 'highlights' clip Chadman added earlier was from 2010, not 2011. While he has some negative plays in there- he still makes a number of dominant plays.

I don't have to tell the Chadman that LT is a premium position, and that many players grade out as a first round talent who ultimately don't pan out. I have been watching Adams stock for awhile now. Last season he was considered a 3-4th rounder. That was based upon raw physical ability...which he indeed has. It certainly wasn't based on play. After Adams came back from suspension, he played well. He looked really solid. Then comes the Senior Bowl, and again he is the next great LT. No doubt Adams has all the tools to be great. But, does he love the game? Does he love the weight room? Does he love to be coached up? Does he loathe the DLman across from him? Does he want to be a dominant LT? I haven't seen anything within his game that tells me yes to any of those questions.

So, while I get the love affair with his talent. Those of us who had to endure his play over his college career are not so enamored with him. I don't think we have one Buckeye fan that wants to draft him.

[Slapstick]

I am a Buckeye fan and I would draft him...

I think Adams is a guy who would respond well if put in the right situation...

[birtikidis]

Slap, I don't ANYONE who would play hard for OSU. I know I wouldn't... I'd be so ashamed of myself that I wouldn't want ppl to know I was even there.

[Shawn]

I am a Buckeye fan and I would draft him...

I think Adams is a guy who would respond well if put in the right situation...

Yeah but Slappy your opinion doesn't carry much weight here...so I wasn't counting you.

[birtikidis]

Chadman, I'm still holding out hope we can get one of the top guards in this draft. Unfortunately, all the great LT's are long gone when we pick, and I see an immediate need at LB. So, a tackle would be 3rd on my wishlist. Eventually we need to land a good tackle that can be a long term starter. The G from Georgia (his name escapes me right now...) would look great in B&G, if we can't get him, I'd go with Hightower.. and if they're both gone, maybe a tackle at that point. for the record I think Adams will get picked before we pick. A team will reach for him, like every year LT's always do. IDK a lot about Washington...

[RuthlessBurgher]

It's entirely possible you are correct.....so...Brandon Washington to LG then?

I'd rather OG Brandon Washington from Miami in round 2 than OT Mike Adams in round 1.

Of course, I think an even better value could be the other Guard named Brandon from the other Miami (Brooks from Ohio) in the 3rd round.