Manning to Denver

[Djfan]

Ask them how many Super Bowls Peyton has won in his 14 years in the NFL.

Then ask them how many Super Bowls Ben has won in his 8 years in the NFL.

That should shut 'em up.

I'm already doing that. Also, doesn't Ben have more "perfect game ratings" than Peyton?

[RuthlessBurgher]

I'm already doing that. Also, doesn't Ben have more "perfect game ratings" than Peyton?

Actually, no. Both Ben and Peyton have 3 perfect passer rating games in the regular season (but I believe that Ben is the only guy to have 2 perfect passer rating games in 1 season). Peyton also has another perfect passer rating game in the playoffs (in a Wild Card game against...you guessed it...the Broncos). Perhaps you were thinking of Brady, since he only has 2 such games in his career.

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_quarterbacks_who_have_posted_a_perfect _passer_rating[/URL]

[steelz09]

+1 vote for keeping Wallace. He is quite valuable in my opinion. More so than an unproven 1st round pick. wtf?

I'm all for keeping Wallace but if we can't, I sure hope the Steelers try to get something in return.

[papillon]

Geez...they smashed us with Jesus...oops, Tebow....what will they do to us with Peyton????

Same thing the Colts did with Harrison, Wayne, Clark and James, nothing (I know, one SB). Peyton Manning is 36 years old, coming of multiple neck surgeries and the Bronco WRs won't be mistaken for Harrison, Wayne and Clark anytime soon, even with Wallace on the squad. The Bronco defense is slightly above average (if that) and they have a good running game. Of all the places for Manning to land, Denver is the least likely place to win a SB, IMO.

The 49ers were the place to go, Crabtree, Davis, Gore, probably a top 5 offensive line and great weather year round. The defense is easily top 5 and their special teams were pretty good, add Manning and they would have been the favorite. Peyton isn't going to be the Peyton that torched teams throughout his career. Even if he is, for the most part, the playoffs were not good to him, the Manning that is good in the playoffs is Eli.

Tennessee was another place set up to win with Peyton as quarterback, Britt returning, CJ and a darn good defense.

I'm not sure what was promised or what pictures the Broncos have of Peyton that he doesn't want on the internet, but Denver isn't going to be friendly to Peyton. He's accustomed to playing 8 games guaranteed in a dome in Indy, not on a field that could be covered with multiple feet of snow and wind. The Broncos will find out quickly enough if the nerves regenerated properly or not when he tries to throw in the wind.

Denver will win games and get into the playoffs, but won't get to the championship game, IMO. all they did was spare themselves the embarrassment of missing the playoffs with Tim Tebow at quarterback.

Pappy

[RuthlessBurgher]

Same thing the Colts did with Harrison, Wayne, Clark and James, nothing (I know, one SB). Peyton Manning is 36 years old, coming of multiple neck surgeries and the Bronco WRs won't be mistaken for Harrison, Wayne and Clark anytime soon, even with Wallace on the squad. The Bronco defense is slightly above average (if that) and they have a good running game. Of all the places for Manning to land, Denver is the least likely place to win a SB, IMO.

I wouldn't even say that Denver has a good running game. A lot of that was because Tebow himself ran the ball a ton (122-660-5.4-6). With Timmy out of the picture, they have a past-his-prime Willis McGahee (RB's going into their 10th season aren't on the upswing), a first round bust in Knowshon Moreno, and a guy named Lance Ball (who managed to produce twice as much as Knowshon). Nowhere near as close to what he would have in San Fran or Tennessee.

[Djfan]

I agree. He must be chasing money right now. I really don't see any reason beyond that for him to pass up SF or TN for this.

[fordfixer]

This Manning thing sucks. I am already getting texts from my local friends about how they will win the next 238 superbowls.

Wow what a day you got two texts

[Crash]

Peyton was not going to the NFC. Mama Manning's dream is a Peyton vs. Eli Super Bowl.

Can't happen with both in the same conference.

The AFC West is the worst division in the conference. Cream puff teams who don't really hit anyone. That's why he went to Denver.

[skyhawk]

Same thing the Colts did with Harrison, Wayne, Clark and James, nothing (I know, one SB). Peyton Manning is 36 years old, coming of multiple neck surgeries and the Bronco WRs won't be mistaken for Harrison, Wayne and Clark anytime soon, even with Wallace on the squad. The Bronco defense is slightly above average (if that) and they have a good running game. Of all the places for Manning to land, Denver is the least likely place to win a SB, IMO.

The 49ers were the place to go, Crabtree, Davis, Gore, probably a top 5 offensive line and great weather year round. The defense is easily top 5 and their special teams were pretty good, add Manning and they would have been the favorite. Peyton isn't going to be the Peyton that torched teams throughout his career. Even if he is, for the most part, the playoffs were not good to him, the Manning that is good in the playoffs is Eli.

Tennessee was another place set up to win with Peyton as quarterback, Britt returning, CJ and a darn good defense.

I'm not sure what was promised or what pictures the Broncos have of Peyton that he doesn't want on the internet, but Denver isn't going to be friendly to Peyton. He's accustomed to playing 8 games guaranteed in a dome in Indy, not on a field that could be covered with multiple feet of snow and wind. The Broncos will find out quickly enough if the nerves regenerated properly or not when he tries to throw in the wind.

Denver will win games and get into the playoffs, but won't get to the championship game, IMO. all they did was spare themselves the embarrassment of missing the playoffs with Tim Tebow at quarterback.

Pappy

Exactamundo. +1

[Djfan]

Wow what a day you got two texts

Kind of intimidating, huh Captain Technology?

[Oviedo]

I'm all for keeping Wallace but if we can't, I sure hope the Steelers try to get something in return.

I think that is the essence of much emotion and debate here on "the Planet." Some interpret wanting a 1st Round pick if Wallace leaves as wanting Wallace to leave. I think a very small minority may want Wallace to leave but a much larger portion of the posters want something valuable like a Round 1 if he does leave. Doesn't make anyone a Wallace hater just people who want value in return for a valauable commodity if we are put in the situation of losing that commodity.

[Oviedo]

Same thing the Colts did with Harrison, Wayne, Clark and James, nothing (I know, one SB). Peyton Manning is 36 years old, coming of multiple neck surgeries and the Bronco WRs won't be mistaken for Harrison, Wayne and Clark anytime soon, even with Wallace on the squad. The Bronco defense is slightly above average (if that) and they have a good running game. Of all the places for Manning to land, Denver is the least likely place to win a SB, IMO.

The 49ers were the place to go, Crabtree, Davis, Gore, probably a top 5 offensive line and great weather year round. The defense is easily top 5 and their special teams were pretty good, add Manning and they would have been the favorite. Peyton isn't going to be the Peyton that torched teams throughout his career. Even if he is, for the most part, the playoffs were not good to him, the Manning that is good in the playoffs is Eli.

Tennessee was another place set up to win with Peyton as quarterback, Britt returning, CJ and a darn good defense.

I'm not sure what was promised or what pictures the Broncos have of Peyton that he doesn't want on the internet, but Denver isn't going to be friendly to Peyton. He's accustomed to playing 8 games guaranteed in a dome in Indy, not on a field that could be covered with multiple feet of snow and wind. The Broncos will find out quickly enough if the nerves regenerated properly or not when he tries to throw in the wind.

Denver will win games and get into the playoffs, but won't get to the championship game, IMO. all they did was spare themselves the embarrassment of missing the playoffs with Tim Tebow at quarterback.

Pappy

Denver really makes no sense because they really aren't that good a football team. Many of their wins were last minute luck or opponents screwing up playing against Tebow like we did.

Maybe Manning wanted the challenge but I can't see them being more than 8-8 this season.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

The reasons why Manning did not land in SF or Tenn? Frank Gore and Chris Johnson. Think about it...........

Manning does not want to go somewhere to hand off the ball. He wants to air it out. He knows that there will be problems when you have a top back who is not getting the rock, especially if there are any struggles.

Who were PM's go to backs in Indy? Addai? James? They had one of the greatest weapons of the last 15 years and shipped him out in favor of James. PM wants an air show, and won't let Gore or CJ get in the way.

[grotonsteel]

Denver really makes no sense because they really aren't that good a football team. Many of their wins were last minute luck or opponents screwing up playing against Tebow like we did.

Maybe Manning wanted the challenge but I can't see them being more than 8-8 this season.

Denver has a good defense and AFC West is outright horrible. It is an easy division to win.

Also it might be easier for Manning to throw deep in Mile-High because of high altitude i guess.

[RuthlessBurgher]

The reasons why Manning did not land in SF or Tenn? Frank Gore and Chris Johnson. Think about it...........

Manning does not want to go somewhere to hand off the ball. He wants to air it out. He knows that there will be problems when you have a top back who is not getting the rock, especially if there are any struggles.

Who were PM's go to backs in Indy? Addai? James? They had one of the greatest weapons of the last 15 years and shipped him out in favor of James. PM wants an air show, and won't let Gore or CJ get in the way.

Peyton had many years of winning the weak AFC South with 12 or so wins per year, but only had one championship season (and had massive luck of facing off against Rex Grossman in the Super Bowl...even then, Rhodes and Addai rushing for 190 combined yards and the Indy defense getting 5 takeaways each played a larger role in that victory than Manning himself).

Peyton may lead the Broncos to an AFC West title or two (and may even get to 12 or so wins in the process), but he's not winning any championships there. If he was interested in championships, he would have signed with the Niners (but would have to share glory with Gore and a top-ranked defense...oh, the horror!). But he's satisfied being the guy who is worshipped for regular season success, which should continue in Denver.