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  • fordfixer
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 10940

    Mike Wallace situation still up in the air

    [URL="http://nfl.si.com/2012/03/15/mike-wallace-situation-still-up-in-the-air/"]Mike Wallace situation still up in the air[/URL]

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    [URL="http://sinfl.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/mike-wallace.jpg"][/URL]Mike Wallace is one of the premier big-play threats in the NFL. (Getty Images)

    With each free-agent wide receiver signing, the spotlight progressively focuses in on Pittsburgh’s Mike Wallace.
    The Steelers, with their financial hands tied this offseason, hit Wallace with a first-round tender — meaning that Wallace is free to talk with other teams, but that the Steelers have an opportunity to either match any contract offer presented him or receive a 2012 first-round pick as compensation.
    And yet, Pittsburgh doesn’t seem outwardly nervous about the situation, despite the fact that any team in need of a receiver could swoop in and price the Steelers out of the Wallace market at any moment.
    Part of that confidence comes from the compensation factor — losing Wallace would be a huge blow to the Steelers’ offense any way you cut it, but they’ve shown an ability to find receivers in the draft and would have two first-round opportunities to do so if Wallace departed.
    The other reason behind Pittsburgh holding steady is that, while the rash of free-agent WR signings could push teams in Wallace’s direction, the flip side of it is that the market for a potential long-term deal with Wallace is being set. DeSean Jackson’s contract (five years, $51 million with $15 million guaranteed) might be a starting point for what’s fair for Wallace; he’s outproduced Jackson over the past two seasons.
    The breakdown of the Jackson contract, especially, could play to Pittsburgh’s advantage.
    Jackson’s 2012 cap hit will only be in the neighborhood of $3 million, as he’ll work off a $750,000 base salary plus a signing bonus. The remainder of that deal stretches out over the four following seasons and gives the Eagles a fairly cost-effective out after 2013.
    Wallace would be guaranteed $2.7 million next season under the first-round tender, so a slight bump for 2012 plus a longer-term solution structured similarly to Jackson’s might be possible, even with Pittsburgh’s stifled cap situation.
    Of course, the longer Wallace dangles atop the free-agency board, the greater chance there is that a team coughs up its first-rounder and a loaded contract for him. The NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi pitched Cincinnati as a possible Wallace suitor on Wednesday, and that’s precisely the type of team that makes sense.
    The Bengals (on top of being a Pittsburgh rival) have ample cap space, meaning they would not have to push Wallace’s money to future seasons. Cincinnati also owns two first-round draft picks, so sacrificing one could be worthwhile.
    At just 25, Wallace has already proven himself as a terrific NFL wide receiver. He made 72 catches for 1,193 yards and eight touchdowns last season; 60 grabs for 1,257 yards and 10 TDs in 2010.
    Chalk some of that up to playing in Pittsburgh’s talented attack and having Ben Roethlisberger throwing the football, but there’s no doubt Wallace is a legit big-play threat whenever he touches the ball.
    That teams haven’t lined up for Wallace tells you two things: 1. The value of a first-round pick remains extremely high; and 2. Pittsburgh may be ready to match any offer that’s not through the roof.
    That said, this story is a lot closer to the beginning than the end. After seeing the run on free-agent wide receivers Tuesday and Wednesday, it seems unlikely that Wallace simply slides by as a restricted free agent without a nibble from another team or a long-term extension from his own.
    Who will blink first?
    Pittsburgh seems comfortable no matter the answer.

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  • Lebsteel
    Pro Bowler
    • May 2008
    • 1007

    #2
    C'mon Bengals, do it!!
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    • NJ-STEELER
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 12563

      #3
      Originally posted by Lebsteel
      C'mon Bengals, do it!!
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      really?

      we already have to double cover Aj green. what if wallace is on the other side?

      that said, no where in that teams history suggest they will go out and pay wallace that much. especially when green will need a new (big) contract soon

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      • Wallace108
        Backup
        • May 2010
        • 201

        #4
        Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
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        really?

        we already have to double cover Aj green. what if wallace is on the other side?

        that said, no where in that teams history suggest they will go out and pay wallace that much. especially when green will need a new (big) contract soon
        Yeah, Green and Wallace would be a scary duo to have to cover. Although when a player joins the Bengals, I think they're issued an orange jumpsuit and shackles. The shackles would slow him down a little. 2981382511.gif
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        • Lebsteel
          Pro Bowler
          • May 2008
          • 1007

          #5
          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
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          really?

          we already have to double cover Aj green. what if wallace is on the other side?

          that said, no where in that teams history suggest they will go out and pay wallace that much. especially when green will need a new (big) contract soon
          Yeah, I don't WANT to give up Wallace, but I don't want the Steelers to pay him $10 mil + per year either. But, I would love to have the 21st and 24th picks in the draft. Cordy Glenn AND Donte Hightower? Trade our 3rd round pick and No. 21 and move up and take DeCastro and then Hightower. That is certainly worth considering. However, the thought of Green and Wallace together is very scary.
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          • SteelBucks
            Legend
            • Aug 2008
            • 8075

            #6
            Anyone else getting tired of the Mike Wallace talk? Stay, go....I'm starting not to care. Just be over already.

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            • pittpete
              Legend
              • Aug 2008
              • 6825

              #7
              Wallace doesnt have any arrests or the Bengals would've jumped on him allready
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              • insanesteelersfan
                Starter
                • Apr 2011
                • 713

                #8
                If the Bengals signed Wallace, they would have to give their 17th pick, not the 21st. Just say'in

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                • Snatch98
                  Pro Bowler
                  • May 2008
                  • 1451

                  #9
                  Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
                  If the Bengals signed Wallace, they would have to give their 17th pick, not the 21st. Just say'in
                  They pick 21st. I believe 17 is the raiders pick.

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                  • insanesteelersfan
                    Starter
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 713

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Snatch98
                    They pick 21st. I believe 17 is the raiders pick.



                    I don't think it matters. If a team has Multiple picks in round 1, and the compensation is a 1st rounder, the higher of the two picks goes to the team not matching a offer sheet.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35655

                      #11
                      Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
                      I don't think it matters. If a team has Multiple picks in round 1, and the compensation is a 1st rounder, the higher of the two picks goes to the team not matching a offer sheet.

                      insane, is this you?

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                      • squidkid
                        Legend
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 5847

                        #12
                        Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
                        I don't think it matters. If a team has Multiple picks in round 1, and the compensation is a 1st rounder, the higher of the two picks goes to the team not matching a offer sheet.
                        it's their original pick
                        steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                        • BO-BO
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 15

                          #13
                          I think the Steelers need to keep Wallace for the simple fact he makes Brown even more of a threat. It would be the same scenario with the Bengals. You cannot double cover both receivers, but what makes the Steelers even more frightening is that they have a quality tight end with Miller.

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                          • insanesteelersfan
                            Starter
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 713

                            #14
                            Originally posted by squidkid
                            it's their original pick


                            I would have thought the same thing. But it's not. This is from another site, a tweet from the main scout at nfldraftscout.com....


                            Matt Miller ‏ @nfldraftscout
                            Clearing up RFA compensation, new NFL
                            documents says "its own [draft pick] or better." Example, Bengals would be #17,
                            Patriots #27, etc.
                            Quote:
                            Matt Miller ‏ @nfldraftscout
                            If a team signs another team's RFA,
                            they must pay the tender (first round, etc.) at their highest draft pick in that
                            round.

                            So if Cincy, or New England signed Wallace and we did not match it, we would get their highest selection, no matter if it came from another team in another deal.

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #15
                              New England franchised Welker, then signed Brandon Lloyd and Anthony Gonzalez. They're out.

                              San Francisco signed Randy Moss and Mario Manningham to go with Michael Crabtree. They're out.

                              Baltimore has to worry about signing long-term deals with Ray Rice and Joe Flacco. They're out.

                              Chicago traded two 3rd round picks to get Brandon Marshall. They're out.

                              Mike Brown is a cheap bastage who would never fork over a huge contract that we'd be unable to match. They're out.

                              Mike Wallace will be playing for the Steelers this season (as he should be).
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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