Hampton Restructured His Deal

[Crash]

LaMarr Woodley was fanchise tagged before he signed a long term contract

Which means?

HE NEVER HIT THE OPEN MARKET.

[Dee Dub]

Which means?

HE NEVER HIT THE OPEN MARKET.

Are you kidding me? I gave this example because you keep saying if Wallace hits the open market the Steelers will lose him. If they want him they can do the same as they did with Woodley. Franchise him then sign him to a long term contract. This gives them more time and opportunity to see what happens with him as well as others on the team....and why I dont think they should resign Wallace now or before next off-season. There is no need too. Makes no sense to do so.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Reducing salary and eliminating a bonus sure sounds like a restructuring. Lawyer talk gives me a headache.

Restructuring means that you are moving money around (converting salary into signing bonus so that players get their money up front and the team gets immediate cap relief), but the player gets no more money or no less money as a result of it (Ben, Woodley, Timmons, Ike, and Colon still get the same amount of money this season...they just get a really large check now, and then smaller checks after each game). What Hampton did is different...not a restructure like Ben, Woodley, Timmons, Ike, and Colon...it's a flat-out pay cut; Snack will be getting less money overall this season...$3.09 million less.

[Crash]

Are you kidding me? I gave this example because you keep saying if Wallace hits the open market the Steelers will lose him.

And they will.

[squidkid]

the fat arse is getting almost 2 million more than he should be this year.....poor decision by the front office

[BigRob]

the fat arse is getting almost 2 million more than he should be this year.....poor decision by the front office

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but they can still cut him in training camp and not take a cap hit correct? If that is the case, then smart move by the FO.

[Dee Dub]

And they will.

You seem to not be getting this. Mike Wallace only hits the free agency market next off-season only if the Steelers do not want to lock him to a long term contract.

And since their track record is like tremendous on this, I will give way to their judgement on it. And again...I do not thinking signing Mike Wallace to a long term contract now or before next off-season is in the best interests of the Steelers. And there might not be a bigger Mike Wallace supporter on this forum than me. Let next season play out and see what he does and what happens to other players on the roster. If they want him then, they can go the route they went with LaMarr Woodley.

Easy as pie!!

[hawaiiansteel]

THURSDAY, MARCH 15, 2012

Hampton takes a cut


With Casey Hampton taking a cut in pay - it's a cut, not a restructure as some are reporting it - the Steelers' need to take a nose tackle high in the draft is a little less pressing.

And it again goes to show how the Steelers like to do business.

Pittsburgh never likes to go into a season being forced to rely on a rookie at any position, particularly on defense.

That's why there hasn't been a full-time rookie starter on the team's defense since Hampton and Kendrell Bell broke in there in 2001.

And even at that, Hampton and Bell had to earn their spots. They weren't handed the positions.

So the Steelers now have Hampton under contract, meaning they can ease a rookie into the rotation if he deserves it. The same goes at inside linebacker, where they are comfortable playing Larry Foote beside Lawrence Timmons if need be.

Certainly, things aren't so cut-and-dried on offense. But even in cases where rookies have come in and started - Ben Roethlisberger, Maurkice Pouncey, etc. - the Steelers had veteran options around just in case things took a little longer than expected.

It's the Steelers way. And it's worked for some time.

So while fans may get upset that both Bill Cowher and Mike Tomlin don't like to play rookies, the reality is that they don't like to HAVE to play rookies. And there is a difference.

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[phillyesq]

the fat arse is getting almost 2 million more than he should be this year.....poor decision by the front office

The prorated portion of his signing bonus that was out there was a sunk cost and was going to count against the cap one way or another. So essentially, the Steelers are paying Hampton $2.8 million dollars this year. Though not the player he was, that is still very good value for Hampton.

There is no way that the Steelers would find somebody better than Hampton for less than $2.8 million this year.

[Chadman]

Unless the Steelers find a geuine, viable option at NT going forward- the day Hampton retires, the Steelers defense will struggle.

This draft coming up will be very interesting- Steelers have shown interest in Fletcher Cox & Jerrell Worthy...not exactly the typical 3-4 NT...maybe Bouchette is on the money? Could Ziggy be on the move?

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

This is not a restructure per se...you can't restructure a guy in the final year of his contract with extending said contract. Hampton simply took a pay cut. This may be unprecedented in Steeler history. I don't recall us ever giving someone a pay cut like this...Hampton gave up $3 million to stay ($2 million in salary and a $1 million workout bonus). Hines asked for a pay cut, and we didn't give him one...we cut him outright.

Bettis was paycut.

[Oviedo]

Unless the Steelers find a geuine, viable option at NT going forward- the day Hampton retires, the Steelers defense will struggle.

This draft coming up will be very interesting- Steelers have shown interest in Fletcher Cox & Jerrell Worthy...not exactly the typical 3-4 NT...maybe Bouchette is on the money? Could Ziggy be on the move?

But they would fit very nicely in a 4-3 defensive front.

[Slapstick]

Casey had no cards? What about the card that shows the Steelers have no NT alternative.

You want to go into the season with McClendon as your only NT? Yea, that's brilliant.

What about Hood? A guy that has never played NT before as your centerpiece of your 3-4 piece. No thank you.

Brilliant or not, no thank you or not, that's what they would have done if Casey had not agreed to a pay cut...

[phillyesq]

But they would fit very nicely in a 4-3 defensive front.

No chance Steelers are thinking of 4-3, per Colbert via Wexell:

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[Oviedo]

No chance Steelers are thinking of 4-3, per Colbert via Wexell:

"[URL="http://www.planetsteelers.com/#!/BelowZero8"]@BelowZero8[/URL] that will keep the rumors turning that Tomlin is set to switch to a 4-3." -- I asked Colbert at combine. He said no chance
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Smokescreen!!!!! Do you divulge your trial strategy before the trial?

I'm always hopeful.