Roethlisberger getting ready

[williar]

Re: Roethlisberger getting ready

[quote=Dee Dub]

Yes, like being motivated after the SB loss.. Yea ok!

So are you saying Ben wasnt motivated last year? That when he could barely walk how he willed himself to play wasnt showing motivation? This team hasnt seen this type of motivation from it's Qb since the days of Terry Bradshaw and all we can hear is the hate for Ben. Wow!!

Was Ben the one who couldnt stop Tim Tebow?

Ya think maybe an "elite" QB can motivate himself to outscore his opponent sometimes? Especially when half the defense was hurt in that game.

When you say elite do you mean like Tom Brady in this past Super Bowl? Or all the times Peyton Manning got outscored in the post season? How about Drew Brees not getting it done this year? Or Aaron Rodgers? Did you know that Steve Young won only 1 super bowl? That means all those other times he made the playoffs he was outscored by his opponents? Do we need to mention Dan Marino and all his post season fails?

Ben is 10-4 in the post season. That means not only does he sometimes outscore his opponents but he does about 72% of the time.

I will give it to you williar, unlike feltdizz, at least you make it be known about your hatred for Ben.[/quote:9n9rbmym]

No. Deedub. I'm saying stop hating on the defense. They can't let your beloved Ben off the hook EVERYTIME! Now can they? Don't you think the defense would love to get a break every now and then and have their elite QB carry them to victory....

What I'm saying is any QB worth his weight in salt should have been able to finish the game (against the broncos) off in regulation. What did we need about 10-15 yards to get in field goal range. But for some reason (Ben taking sacks and fumbling the football) we went backwards and never got a field goal attempt that could have won the game...

Defense should have never been back on the field, if you know what I'm saying.......

[SS Laser]

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I give Ben a pass in Denver. He was beat up! But he and the defence put us in place to go to over time. But the also beat up defence then dropped the ball and did not give Ben a chance in over time. TEAM LOSS.

[Dee Dub]

Re: Roethlisberger getting ready

[quote=williar]

Yes, like being motivated after the SB loss.. Yea ok!

So are you saying Ben wasnt motivated last year? That when he could barely walk how he willed himself to play wasnt showing motivation? This team hasnt seen this type of motivation from it's Qb since the days of Terry Bradshaw and all we can hear is the hate for Ben. Wow!!

Was Ben the one who couldnt stop Tim Tebow?

Ya think maybe an "elite" QB can motivate himself to outscore his opponent sometimes? Especially when half the defense was hurt in that game.

When you say elite do you mean like Tom Brady in this past Super Bowl? Or all the times Peyton Manning got outscored in the post season? How about Drew Brees not getting it done this year? Or Aaron Rodgers? Did you know that Steve Young won only 1 super bowl? That means all those other times he made the playoffs he was outscored by his opponents? Do we need to mention Dan Marino and all his post season fails?

Ben is 10-4 in the post season. That means not only does he sometimes outscore his opponents but he does about 72% of the time.

I will give it to you williar, unlike feltdizz, at least you make it be known about your hatred for Ben.

No. Deedub. I'm saying stop hating on the defense. They can't let your beloved Ben off the hook EVERYTIME! Now can they? Don't you think the defense would love to get a break every now and then and have their elite QB carry them to victory....

What I'm saying is any QB worth his weight in salt should have been able to finish the game (against the broncos) off in regulation. What did we need about 10-15 yards to get in field goal range. But for some reason (Ben taking sacks and fumbling the football) we went backwards and never got a field goal attempt that could have won the game...

Defense should have never been back on the field, if you know what I'm saying.......[/quote:2ua1kdmo]

No that's not what you are saying. Now you are back tracking. 10-4 in the post season care to explain that?

How about the examples of post season failure I gave you from the well known elite QB's?

Can you explain (errrrrrrrrr twist), that?

[Ghost]

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All I got out of this was Ben hates Todd Haley....

[Sugar]

Re: Roethlisberger getting ready

All I got out of this was Ben hates Todd Haley....

[williar]

Re: Roethlisberger getting ready

Was Ben the one who couldnt stop Tim Tebow?[/quote]


Ya think maybe an "elite" QB can motivate himself to outscore his opponent sometimes? Especially when half the defense was hurt in that game.[/quote]

When you say elite do you mean like Tom Brady in this past Super Bowl? Or all the times Peyton Manning got outscored in the post season? How about Drew Brees not getting it done this year? Or Aaron Rodgers? Did you know that Steve Young won only 1 super bowl? That means all those other times he made the playoffs he was outscored by his opponents? Do we need to mention Dan Marino and all his post season fails?

Ben is 10-4 in the post season. That means not only does he sometimes outscore his opponents but he does about 72% of the time.

I will give it to you williar, unlike feltdizz, at least you make it be known about your hatred for Ben.[/quote]

No. Deedub. I'm saying stop hating on the defense. They can't let your beloved Ben off the hook EVERYTIME! Now can they? Don't you think the defense would love to get a break every now and then and have their elite QB carry them to victory....

What I'm saying is any QB worth his weight in salt should have been able to finish the game (against the broncos) off in regulation. What did we need about 10-15 yards to get in field goal range. But for some reason (Ben taking sacks and fumbling the football) we went backwards and never got a field goal attempt that could have won the game...

Defense should have never been back on the field, if you know what I'm saying.......[/quote]

No that's not what you are saying. Now you are back tracking. 10-4 in the post season care to explain that?

How about the examples of post season failure I gave you from the well known elite QB's?

Can you explain (errrrrrrrrr twist), that?[/quote]

I know I didn't do quite as good a job as you do of (errrrrrrrrr twisting) and (errrrrrrrrrr manipulating post) so we'll just call it even....

[papillon]

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I love that Eli tying Ben is pushing him but I'm getting tired of being "close" to greatness...

I know the expectations are unreal but as a fan I would love to see our O leave it all on the field from the first game to the last.

I don't think we'll ever see this the Steeler offense with Ben as the quarterback, simply because of his style of play. The Steeler offense will be effective, but it won't be a well oiled machine that churns out 30 plus game after game. However, it will rise to the occasion when necessary and win games, it will be effective overall but not consistent and it will be entertaining to watch.

We aren't going to see New England, New Orleans or Green Bay style offense with Ben, it simply isn't in his DNA to play a rhythm type offense, IMHO. That doesn't mean they won't be great, it just means it will never look like the Patriots, Saints or Packers.

Pappy

[SteelCrazy]

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The only reason he is working out earlier this year is because now there is a woman in his house. That's all the motivation we men need to go anywhere, but home!

[feltdizz]

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I love that Eli tying Ben is pushing him but I'm getting tired of being "close" to greatness...

Not surprised. You are a noted Ben hater. Instead of being happy that Ben is taking to his workouts early and dedicating himself to getting better, you have to take a shot.

I know the expectations are unreal but as a fan I would love to see our O leave it all on the field from the first game to the last.

When a person says "but" it usually means that one they didn't actually hear anything previous to that, or they do not actually believe what was said before the "but".

How can you say and admit the expectations are unreal then follow it up with another unreal expectation?

Show me one offense in the league that leaves it out on the field from the first game to the last? There isnt one. Never has been one. At some point in time they all sputter. Even the prolific ones like the 2011 Packers, the 18-1 Patriots, The Greatest show on Turf, etc., etc.

Felt, why dont you just man-up and admit that you can't stand Ben?

I'll man up and admit I'm a Ben hater when you man up and admit you are a Pouncey hater.

Maybe it's because I'm from a time when real men could have opinions about their QB without being called a hater.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

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The only reason he is working out earlier this year is because now there is a woman in his house. That's all the motivation we men need to go anywhere, but home!

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Roethlisberger getting ready

Roethlisberger gets a head start on offseason training

Posted by Mike Florio on February 15, 2012


On March 2, Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger officially will be on the wrong side of 30. He apparently plans to commemorate that event by staying on the right side of 300.

Roethisberger recently told Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that the quarterback already has begun working out in advance of the 2012 season.

“When I talked to Mike [Tomlin], I said I don’t know how much longer I have to play, no one does; it could be two years, three years, it could be eight years. Who knows?” Roethlisberger said.

“I’m hoping that I’m just starting in my prime. I’ve already been working out with [Garrett Giemont], our strength coach, already. I’ve never worked out this early. It’s not like high-intensity, out killing myself, but I’m working out, I want to come to camp lighter than I’ve ever come, in better shape, because as you get to a certain point, a certain age in this football thing, your body doesn’t recover like it used to,” Roethlisberger said.

It’s good that he’s committed to maintain his shape (even if it’s the shape of a barrel), but he shouldn’t be quite so candid about “working out with” the team’s strength and conditioning coach. Under Article 21, Section 2(a) of the new CBA, “strength and conditioning coaches may not direct players’ individual workouts, but may supervise use of the weight room to prevent injury and to correct misuse of the equipment” during the period before the official commencement of the offseason program.

Even though his “working out with” the strength coach may have to change, Ben continues to hope the team’s offense won’t.

“Last year, I felt really good about the year, even though we had our downfalls with injuries and stuff, but I feel like I’m coming into the prime of my career, what I hope will be my best years. So I want to make sure I’m ready to go. That’s another reason I hope our offense doesn’t change because I feel like I’m just ready to hit it full stride and go with this,” Roethlisberger said.

“If it does stay the same or if we need to tweak little things, I’ve already talked to the receivers; we’re going to get together this offseason and do some stuff — whether it’s new stuff or old stuff, because we felt we were this close.”

We’ve got a feeling that we’ll be hearing a lot more for Roethlisberger, especially if he doesn’t care for whatever “new stuff” the team may be doing on offense.

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[NJ-STEELER]

Re: Roethlisberger getting ready

How about the examples of post season failure I gave you from the well known elite QB's?

Can you explain (errrrrrrrrr twist), that?

the guy is a known troll. he blames ben for not putting up more points vs. denver but disregards 2 dropped passes that may have led them to a 14 - 0 lead if they were caught

[Slapstick]

Re: Roethlisberger getting ready

Yes, like being motivated after the SB loss.. Yea ok!

So are you saying Ben wasnt motivated last year? That when he could barely walk how he willed himself to play wasnt showing motivation? This team hasnt seen this type of motivation from it's Qb since the days of Terry Bradshaw and all we can hear is the hate for Ben. Wow!!

Was Ben the one who couldnt stop Tim Tebow?

Ya think maybe an "elite" QB can motivate himself to outscore his opponent sometimes? Especially when half the defense was hurt in that game.

The long pass that Wallace dropped in the Broncos game couldn't have been a better pass...

As Tom Brady found out, the WRs also have to catch the ball...

[feltdizz]

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[quote=NJ-STEELER]

How about the examples of post season failure I gave you from the well known elite QB's?

Can you explain (errrrrrrrrr twist), that?

the guy is a known troll. he blames ben for not putting up more points vs. denver but disregards 2 dropped passes that may have led them to a 14 - 0 lead if they were caught[/quote:1jtv3t3v]

It's BA's fault. If he would have put these players in better situations they wouldn't drop passes.