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  • pittpete
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    • Aug 2008
    • 6825

    #16
    Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

    I believe there is now an increased probability of drafting a RB in the first 3-4 rounds, we have no proven RBs after Redman.
    Haley is known for getting the most out of what he has to work with so this is not necessarily true.
    If our strength is our passing game, I think he'll go with that.
    Plenty of serviceable free agents out there to be had instead of using an early draft pick on an unknown
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    • Dresden
      Backup
      • May 2011
      • 129

      #17
      Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

      Originally posted by DBR96A
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      Some fans will never be sold on Redman because he wasn't drafted.
      Either that, or they're trying to justify Rashard Mendenhall's draft position.
      Some people will go to their graves without ever admitting what they know in their hearts to be true,.. and that's that drafting a contact shy, dancing, slasher back like Mendenhall in the first round was nearly absurd.

      But i digress,....because the bottom line for me is that every time i see Redman on the field with the O-line they play as though they are a nasty, determined and dominant group.

      And though he's (Redman) not the second coming of Bussy or Franco,....he is punishing. And i believe that with a little more polish and the confidence that comes with being a starter he could possibly 'get his Barry Foster on' for us ?

      I also see Haley using Batch in a Dexter Mccluster capacity. And i'm good with that.

      Opposing defenses attempting to coral Batch after being battered between the tackles all day works to our advantage IMO.
      1) Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington

      2) Miles Burris, LB San Diego State

      3) Jordan White, WR, WMU

      4) Mychal Kendricks, LB, Cal

      5) Blake Gideon, F/S, Texas

      6) Matt Conrath, DE, VA

      7) Adam Nissley, TE, UCF

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      • hawaiiansteel
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        • May 2008
        • 35648

        #18
        Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

        Mendenhall could miss 2012 season

        By Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
        Tuesday, February 14, 2012



        Rashard Mendenhall leaves the field after injuring his knee during the second quarter against the Browns on January 1, 2012 in Cleveland.

        A torn ACL brought a premature end to Rashard Mendenhall's 2011 season.

        A right knee injury sustained by the Steelers' running back may also sideline him for all of 2012.

        General manager Kevin Colbert said Monday that Mendenhall is likely to open next season on the physically unable to perform list, as he works his way back from an injury that can be devastating for running backs.

        "I never feel good about an ACL until (after) a year," Colbert said. "I'm not a doctor, but that's just my mindset. If he gets back before that, it's a bonus."

        Colbert's math when it comes to ACL injuries wouldn't bode well for Mendenhall suiting up next season since he went down Jan. 1 in Cleveland.

        Teams are allowed to keep players on the PUP list through the first six weeks of the season. That means the Steelers may have to decide in mid-October whether to add Mendenhall to their active roster or put him on injured reserve.

        When asked if Mendenhall may miss all of next season, Colbert said, "(He) possibly could."

        Mendenhall has led the team in rushing the past three seasons, but his uncertain status will not compel the Steelers to put more emphasis on running backs when they start preparations for free agency and the draft, Colbert said.

        The reason for that, Colbert said, is the team's faith in Isaac Redman and some of the other young backs on the roster. Redman rushed for 213 yards and a touchdown in the Steelers' final two games, and he averaged 7.1 yards per carry in a playoff loss in Denver.

        "I think he's established himself as an NFL running back," Colbert said. "Could we add a back? Sure. Are we saying we have to add a back? No."

        Mendenhall, a first-round draft pick in 2008, is going into the final year of his contract. His injury puts on hold any plans the Steelers had in signing Mendenhall to a long-term deal. One player that the Steelers hope to sign to a multiyear contract during the offseason is wide receiver Mike Wallace.

        Wallace, who is coming off back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons and his first Pro Bowl appearance, becomes a restricted free agent March 13, the start of the NFL's new year.

        The Steelers can offer the third-year veteran a one-year contract that allows them to match any offer made to Wallace by another team and receive a draft pick if he signs elsewhere. Colbert said the Steelers haven't ruled out using a franchise tag on Wallace, which would give them exclusive negotiating rights with him.

        "Certainly Mike has done a lot to establish himself as a Pro Bowl receiver, and we want to try to keep Mike here for the long run," Colbert said.

        » Notes: Nose tackle Casey Hampton may also open 2012 on the PUP list, Colbert said, if he returns to the Steelers. Hampton sustained an ACL injury in the Steelers' 29-23 loss to Denver on Jan. 8. "Casey will definitely be a PUP candidate," Colbert said.

        ...The Steelers don't plan on signing any of their own free agents before the March 13 start of free agency, Colbert said. ... Colbert said defensive end Brett Keisel probably won't need surgery to fix the groin injury he suffered in the playoff loss to the Broncos.

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        • phillyesq
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          • May 2008
          • 7568

          #19
          Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

          Originally posted by feltdizz
          Some fans will never be sold on Redman because he wasn't drafted.
          I can't speak for everybody, but I don't think that Redman is the concern. The concern, at least for me, is the depth behind Redman. Clay does not impress me, Dwyer ended the year on IR and is still unproven, and Batch is coming off an ACL injury. Redman runs with a bit of a bruising style, and those guys can tend to get banged up a bit.

          Whether a low level free agent or a mid-late round pick, I think the Steelers need somebody else to put in the mix behind Redman.

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          • Shawn
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            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #20
            Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

            Earliest Mendenhall could be ready is by Sept...in all likelihood. There is a very good chance he will miss at least part if not all of the season.
            Trolls are people too.

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
              • 27532

              #21
              Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

              Originally posted by phillyesq
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              Some fans will never be sold on Redman because he wasn't drafted.
              I can't speak for everybody, but I don't think that Redman is the concern. The concern, at least for me, is the depth behind Redman. Clay does not impress me, Dwyer ended the year on IR and is still unproven, and Batch is coming off an ACL injury. Redman runs with a bit of a bruising style, and those guys can tend to get banged up a bit.

              Whether a low level free agent or a mid-late round pick, I think the Steelers need somebody else to put in the mix behind Redman.
              I think Redman is going to get 15 touches a game.... I could see if we were trying to pound it like we did with Bettis and Foster but we aren't going to be a run first team.

              I don't see Redman as a bruising type RB either... he is shifty in tight spaces and rarely gets blown up. He is an Emmit Smith type running back.... Not the fastest, not the biggest, but somehow he gets 4 to 6 yards without taking big shots.

              Cleveland game when he fumbled in the hole was the first time I've seen Redman get popped.
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              • Ghost
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                • May 2008
                • 6338

                #22
                Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

                Originally posted by phillyesq
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Some fans will never be sold on Redman because he wasn't drafted.
                I can't speak for everybody, but I don't think that Redman is the concern. The concern, at least for me, is the depth behind Redman. Clay does not impress me, Dwyer ended the year on IR and is still unproven, and Batch is coming off an ACL injury. Redman runs with a bit of a bruising style, and those guys can tend to get banged up a bit.

                Whether a low level free agent or a mid-late round pick, I think the Steelers need somebody else to put in the mix behind Redman.
                I agree with this. Certainly like to see more of Clay - was there something specific for you that was unimpressive?

                Dwyer has been a HUGE disappoinment. For some odd reson he thought getting drafted late automatically meant making the team and he really didn't try. If he comes in overweight again I'd cut his fat, lazy a$$. He woulnd't even be on the team if Batch had not gottern injured. And I loved this pick. Thought the Steelers had gotten a steal...

                Love Batch's heart (he says alll the right things) and he's got some great college highlights but he's 100% unproven and coming off a bum wheel. There are most definitely depth issues.
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                • feltdizz
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                  • May 2008
                  • 27532

                  #23
                  Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

                  did we cut Mewelde?
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                  • ter1230_4
                    Backup
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 199

                    #24
                    Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

                    The thought that occurs to me is this: If the Steelers don't think that Mendenhall will be ready for the start of the 2012 season, and might even miss the entire season, then what do they think about Casey Hampton's torn ACL? Hampton is 10 years older and weighs 100 pounds more than Mendenhall, and this is the third time he's blown out an ACL. My guess would be that the Steelers think it's even less likely that Hampton will play much in 2012, and given his cap number I think that the Steelers will have to waive Hampton. Which makes finding a nose tackle, either in the draft or free agency, a must.

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                    • Ghost
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                      • May 2008
                      • 6338

                      #25
                      Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      did we cut Mewelde?
                      He's not under contract.

                      And this was from another article. On the surface it doesn't sound as if there is much interest in bringing him back:

                      "So, Mendenhall might play in 2012. But it also might not be at the start of the season and he might not have the same ability after his knee injury. Plus, he's in the last year of his contract.

                      Colbert seemed OK with the backs left -- Isaac Redman, Jonathan Dwyer, and two '11 rookies -- John Clay and Baron Batch. Batch himself had ACL surgery after a training camp injury."
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                      • RuthlessBurgher
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                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #26
                        Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        Some fans will never be sold on Redman because he wasn't drafted.
                        I'm still not sold on James Harrison for that very reason.
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • RuthlessBurgher
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 33208

                          #27
                          Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

                          Originally posted by ter1230_4
                          The thought that occurs to me is this: If the Steelers don't think that Mendenhall will be ready for the start of the 2012 season, and might even miss the entire season, then what do they think about Casey Hampton's torn ACL? Hampton is 10 years older and weighs 100 pounds more than Mendenhall, and this is the third time he's blown out an ACL. My guess would be that the Steelers think it's even less likely that Hampton will play much in 2012, and given his cap number I think that the Steelers will have to waive Hampton. Which makes finding a nose tackle, either in the draft or free agency, a must.
                          Colbert addressed Hampton's ACL vs. Mendenhall's ACL:

                          Colbert did not say that Mendenhall would not play in 2012, but "it possibly could" wipe out his season. Mendenhall had surgery on his knee in January after his injury Jan. 1 in Cleveland.

                          "Potentially, Rashard will not be ready for camp. I never feel good about an ACL until a year. I'm not a doctor, but that's my mindset. If he gets back before that, to me it's a bonus, so is he potentially a candidate for PUP? Absolutely."

                          Teams place a player on the Physically Unable to Perform list to open training camp if there is a reason they cannot play. Nose tackle Casey Hampton, who also had ACL surgery after the season, could also open camp on that list, but Colbert was more optimistic that Hampton will play in 2012.

                          "Sometimes defensive linemen, offensive linemen recover a little quicker because they don't have to regain their speed or stop and start ability."
                          [url]http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12045/1210003-66.stm[/url]
                          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                          • phillyesq
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 7568

                            #28
                            Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

                            Originally posted by Ghost
                            Originally posted by phillyesq
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            Some fans will never be sold on Redman because he wasn't drafted.
                            I can't speak for everybody, but I don't think that Redman is the concern. The concern, at least for me, is the depth behind Redman. Clay does not impress me, Dwyer ended the year on IR and is still unproven, and Batch is coming off an ACL injury. Redman runs with a bit of a bruising style, and those guys can tend to get banged up a bit.

                            Whether a low level free agent or a mid-late round pick, I think the Steelers need somebody else to put in the mix behind Redman.
                            I agree with this. Certainly like to see more of Clay - was there something specific for you that was unimpressive?

                            Dwyer has been a HUGE disappoinment. For some odd reson he thought getting drafted late automatically meant making the team and he really didn't try. If he comes in overweight again I'd cut his fat, lazy a$$. He woulnd't even be on the team if Batch had not gottern injured. And I loved this pick. Thought the Steelers had gotten a steal...

                            Love Batch's heart (he says alll the right things) and he's got some great college highlights but he's 100% unproven and coming off a bum wheel. There are most definitely depth issues.
                            Agree on Batch. Everything I've seen written by him makes him seem like a guy who really appreciates everything he has. Very easy guy to root for.

                            As for Clay, he had the one TD run (through a huge hole), but otherwise, he didn't look to be particularly quick to hit the hole or as powerful as you'd hope for his size. And his speed is an issue.

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                            • Shoe
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 4044

                              #29
                              Re: Mendenhall may not be back from injury in 2012

                              Originally posted by ter1230_4
                              The thought that occurs to me is this: If the Steelers don't think that Mendenhall will be ready for the start of the 2012 season, and might even miss the entire season, then what do they think about Casey Hampton's torn ACL? Hampton is 10 years older and weighs 100 pounds more than Mendenhall, and this is the third time he's blown out an ACL. My guess would be that the Steelers think it's even less likely that Hampton will play much in 2012, and given his cap number I think that the Steelers will have to waive Hampton. Which makes finding a nose tackle, either in the draft or free agency, a must.
                              Hampton is toast. If anyone thinks anything different, then you obviously have never been 35 years old (or whatever he is)!

                              He's old (for a football player), he's made boatloads of money with lots of accomplishments (i.e. contented), and he's probably morbidly obese (going by the textbook definition).

                              As for the RB question, I'm confident in Redman. Truth is, Redman has no one to blame but himself, if he doesn't set up the rest of his life over the course of the next NFL season. Of course, he could get hurt, but the bottom line is that he has the opportunity in front of him. If he comes and lives in the Steeler facility and shows the FO that HE's the man (i.e. that they don't have to consider someone else in the draft), and he produces a strong year as a starter (i.e. 1,000+ yards), he can get himself a nice contract that can set him up for the rest of his life.
                              I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                              • feltdizz
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                                • May 2008
                                • 27532

                                #30
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                                Hampton is morbidly obese?

                                I'm sorry but all the talk about Hampton's weight is ignorant. Wilfork and every other NT who is considered the best in the biz are all morbidly obese

                                The guy is a NT. I think Colbert or someone in the FO mentioned that an ACL for a DL is much different then an ACL for a RB. Hampton's job is to plug up the middle... nothing more.

                                If Hampton isn't brought back it's because of his salary not his weight. I guess all these NT's are in shape.





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