Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

[fordfixer]

Poll results: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?
February, 10, 2012
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By Jamison Hensley
Eli Manning won the Super Bowl but he failed to win the hearts of the AFC North blog family.

In a SportsNation poll, 69 percent of voters say the Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger is the best quarterback of the 2004 draft. Manning, who was selected first overall in that draft, received 23 percent in a poll that drew over 12,000 votes.

The results aren't surprising, and it would probably be reversed if this poll was taken in the NFC East. Honestly, it comes down to a matter of preference because the numbers are close.

Manning is coming off his second Super Bowl championship and captured his second Super Bowl Most Valuable Player award. He has thrown for 27,579 yards, with 185 touchdowns and 129 interceptions. Manning has directed 21 fourth-quarter comebacks and his overall record (including postseason) is 74-53 (.582).

Roethlisberger is also a two-time Super Bowl-winning quarterback, although he has yet to win the MVP award. He has passed for 26,579 (exactly 1,000 less than Manning), with 165 touchdowns and 100 interceptions. Roethlisberger has 20 fourth-quarter comebacks and his record is 90-36 (.714).

My vote would have gone to "Too Close To Call," which only garnered 5 percent of the vote. Philip Rivers, who was taken fourth overall in the 2004 draft, received 3 percent of the vote

[sentinel33]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

Ben's been doin' it from the break. Without the pedigree.

It'll always be Ben. Don't care what happens. Eli is good, but he's no Roethlisberger.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

I vote for J.P. Losman.

[7 UP]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

Looking at it from a Non-Homer point of view I will call this one a draw. Ben has more wins and less Ints. Eli has more TDs and more yards. Both have two Super Bowls. Kind of hard to make a case for either one over the other.

[Flasteel]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

Nice try, but here are some other critical numbers we measure quarterbacks by:
Eli Manning career numbers
Comp. % - 58.4
YPA - 7.0
Passer Rating - 82.1

Ben Roethlisberger career numbers
Comp. % - 63.1
YPA - 8.0
Passer Rating - 92.1

[Ozey74]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

Both have two Super Bowls. Kind of hard to make a case for either one over the other.

Ben has a a Super Bowl loss. I know it's not a win, but he is +1 on Eli in getting his team to the big game.

[7 UP]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

Both have two Super Bowls. Kind of hard to make a case for either one over the other.

Ben has a a Super Bowl loss. I know it's not a win, but he is +1 on Eli in getting his team to the big game.

Like I said Im trying to look at the comparison as a non-homer. If I personally had to pick 1 Id take Ben. But then again Im pretty biased.

[Captain Lemming]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

Trying to be unbiased I'd say career to date Ben easy. Ben has unique "gifts" that Eli will never have. However, Eli who came in a a pure scrub, has "grown" as a QB more than Ben has though. Ben was a rookie prodigy due to his gifts, but has grown little.

Ben just throws more, so he gets more yards but he is not more effective than his early years.

TODAY I would say it's too close to call. If the trend continues, Eli will "end up" as a better QB.

Hopefully, the change in coaching will get Ben on an upward trajectory.

[feltdizz]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

Trying to be unbiased I'd say career to date Ben easy. Ben has unique "gifts" that Eli will never have. However, Eli who came in a a pure scrub, has "grown" as a QB more than Ben has though. Ben was a rookie prodigy due to his gifts, but has grown little.

Ben just throws more, so he gets more yards but he is not more effective than his early years.

TODAY I would say it's too close to call. If the trend continues, Eli will "end up" as a better QB.

Hopefully, the change in coaching will get Ben on an upward trajectory.

I think it's too close to call... Ben had a better start but hasn't improved much.

Ben has yards but he doesn't have TD's and while he has another SB appearance Eli was been head and shoulders above Ben in SB production.

I doubt any Steeler fan would say Eli had an advantage if he had an extra SB appearance along with Ben's SB stats...

[Northern_Blitz]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

I'd rather have Ben. But I wouldn't mind having Eli.

[grotonsteel]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

Trying to be unbiased I'd say career to date Ben easy. Ben has unique "gifts" that Eli will never have. However, Eli who came in a a pure scrub, has "grown" as a QB more than Ben has though. Ben was a rookie prodigy due to his gifts, but has grown little.

Ben just throws more, so he gets more yards but he is not more effective than his early years.

TODAY I would say it's too close to call. If the trend continues, Eli will "end up" as a better QB.

Hopefully, the change in coaching will get Ben on an upward trajectory.

I think it's too close to call... Ben had a better start but hasn't improved much.

Ben has yards but he doesn't have TD's and while he has another SB appearance Eli was been head and shoulders above Ben in SB production.

I doubt any Steeler fan would say Eli had an advantage if he had an extra SB appearance along with Ben's SB stats...

Maybe Ben does not have TDs but he also does not have INT. Also someone suggested he has more yards because he throws more?? Really. Why is his YPA better overall then?? You can't have more TD if you are not throwing the ball more.

Eli Manning has lead in INT in NFL twice. If it was Ben the case Steelers fans would have brought down the house.

To each there own but i guess grass is green on other side for few fans...

Look at the difference in Attempt and INT and there is hardly any difference in yards.


Eli Manning

Comp Att TD INT
2,291 3,921 185 129

Ben:
Comp Att TD INT
2,090 3,313 165 100

[feltdizz]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

I haven't seen anyone say they want Eli but Eli is definitely gaining ground on Ben.

[grotonsteel]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

I haven't seen anyone say they want Eli but Eli is definitely gaining ground on Ben.

Eli had one good year and even then he had not totally outplayed Ben if you look at all the things that happened in 2011 on Steelers Offensive side this season.


Well its more about distorted facts by some Steelers fans. Ben throws more...Ben should have more TD with less Attempts...but again to each their own i guess.

[feltdizz]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

I haven't seen anyone say they want Eli but Eli is definitely gaining ground on Ben.

Eli had one good year and even then he had not totally outplayed Ben if you look at all the things that happened in 2011 on Steelers Offensive side this season.


Well its more about distorted facts by some Steelers fans. Ben throws more...Ben should have more TD with less Attempts...but again to each their own i guess.

Eli outplayed Ben this year... not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.

Ben still has the better career but he needs to get it in gear because Eli has 2 rings and 2 MVP's (I think).

[grotonsteel]

Re: Roethlisberger or Eli Manning?

I haven't seen anyone say they want Eli but Eli is definitely gaining ground on Ben.

Eli had one good year and even then he had not totally outplayed Ben if you look at all the things that happened in 2011 on Steelers Offensive side this season.


Well its more about distorted facts by some Steelers fans. Ben throws more...Ben should have more TD with less Attempts...but again to each their own i guess.

Eli outplayed Ben this year... not sure how anyone can argue otherwise.

Ben still has the better career but he needs to get it in gear because Eli has 2 rings and 2 MVP's (I think).

Eli had 29 TD-16 INT season. How did Eli outplayed Ben is a mystery to me. He had a better season yes, outplayed no.

Now if you say Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Matt Stafford or Drew Brees outplayed Ben yes i will agree.

As far as Ben's play goes i believe he will continue to play well as long as he has healthy O-line.