Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

[Mo_Steel]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

Like this every year. If we scrimped and saved like in the past and were able to bring in a nice OL, people would complain that we let some stud like Vrabel go.

Can't have it both ways. Signing your own still costs alot of money. We have successful players with 2 SBs, so they cost money. Our drafts compared to most are successful and 4 years later, they need resigned.

Our group does an incredible job considering who they have to pay for.
Look at Indy. They dump soo much in Manning that they lost all the players around him. Now nothing there. Pittsburgh doesn't bottom out and we are a threat every playoffs barring big injury bug like this year.

Here is an inter webs that looks back at last three drafts and who still has all, who totally dropped the ball and who just rides merrily along. Having trouble adding tags around this link from tablet, cursor won't move to where needed now can't remove brackets.

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[Slapstick]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

Apparently, Mitchell is a victim of his own success...

He makes Smith, Hampton and Keisel into ten-year stalwarts and gets slammed for it...

[fezziwig]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

Maybe I view things wrong ? I always think number one picks should be impact and that really isn't the case.

I do remember everyone falling in love with Kiesel but when he became a starter........whew ! get that bum out of here. good thing us fans don't get our way.

[Chadman]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

Bagging Mitchell is a bit rough- he's overseen possibly the best 3-4 DL of the last 10 years, and it's been the cornerstone of the #1 Defense for how many years running?

As for not progressing any DL- well, Smith, Hampton & Keisel have been set for a number of years- who did you want to replace those guys? If anything- we should praise Mitchell for turning a proven 'nuffie' in Nick Eason into a solid rotational footballer, for helping an undrafted undersized NT in Chris Hoke be a 10 year vet, for taking an undrafted NT from Troy & having him step into the rotation and not stand out as a poor player in McLendon.

This new-found belief that Ziggy Hood has regressed is interesting- where is the regression? He stepped in as a starter 2 years in a row- the DL & Defense hasn't missed a beat. He's not a sack-artist, but he holds his point well & doesn't stand out as a poor player. What are you expecting? 12 sacks? From our 3-4 DE's? Fact is, for a 3rd year player- Hood has slotted in to a stable, excellent Defense, and not let anybody down.

This board cracks Chadman up- Pouncey gets hurt- we question him as a player & consider him a career injury threat. Hood doesn't obliterate his opposition- he's regressing. Sanders gets 2 seperate injuries, he's injury prone & likely a bust. Wallace gets consecutive 1000 yard seasons, but has flaws in his game- trade him, he's a bum...

The team is well placed going forward in a number of positions. Thankfully the coaches are oblivious to the obvious imposing doom overshadowing all their recent draft busts.

[fezziwig]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

then settled, mitchell is the new whipping boy.

[Chadman]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

FIRE MITCHELL!

[pittpete]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

This new-found belief that Ziggy Hood has regressed is interesting- where is the regression? He stepped in as a starter 2 years in a row- the DL & Defense hasn't missed a beat. He's not a sack-artist, but he holds his point well & doesn't stand out as a poor player. What are you expecting? 12 sacks? From our 3-4 DE's? Fact is, for a 3rd year player- Hood has slotted in to a stable, excellent Defense, and not let anybody down.

Anyone familiar with our defense knows not to expect many sacks from one of our DL.
Dont know why you would bring up sack totals.
Watching Steeler games earlier this year after Smith was out Ziggy didn't play well.
Teams were running on us and Woodley was blamed for dogging it because of Smiths absence.
So in all honesty, I dont recall Ziggy having a stellar year and can definitely remember discussing this during the season.
Regress, I wouldnt say he regressed for a 3rd year player.
I have high hopes for Zig next year.
Should be a beast

[Jooser]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

Give the Ball.....

oh, woops, sorry....wrong mantra around here.

[grotonsteel]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

This new-found belief that Ziggy Hood has regressed is interesting- where is the regression? He stepped in as a starter 2 years in a row- the DL & Defense hasn't missed a beat. He's not a sack-artist, but he holds his point well & doesn't stand out as a poor player. What are you expecting? 12 sacks? From our 3-4 DE's? Fact is, for a 3rd year player- Hood has slotted in to a stable, excellent Defense, and not let anybody down.

Anyone familiar with our defense knows not to expect many sacks from one of our DL.
Dont know why you would bring up sack totals.
Watching Steeler games earlier this year after Smith was out Ziggy didn't play well.
Teams were running on us and Woodley was blamed for dogging it because of Smiths absence.
So in all honesty, I dont recall Ziggy having a stellar year and can definitely remember discussing this during the season.
Regress, I wouldnt say he regressed.

Ziggy Hood stats (3rd year)

tackles - 19
Assist - 12
Sacks - 1.5

Aaron Smith (3rd year)

tackles - 23
Assist - 5
Sacks - 8.0

Now I know Steelers D-linemen are not suppose to rush passer. They are not suppose to sack QB (/sarcasm) but still those stats are not good. Its unfair to compare Ziggy with Aaron but come on Aaron was 4th Rd player.

On top of that we are now looking at NT position which is the most important position in 3-4.

[grotonsteel]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

Maybe I view things wrong ? I always think number one picks should be impact and that really isn't the case.

Rd 1 player should be impact player but i just don't see it happening with Hood. I hope they stay away from D-line in Rd 1.

draft a player in mid-round and develop him to occupy 2 blockers.

[Slapstick]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

1) Smith started for an entire season.

2) That year was an anomaly for Smith. He never got close to 8 sacks ever again.

[Chadman]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

Comparing Smith's 4th round grade to Hood's 1st round grade is also unfair.

10 years ago, how many teams played 3-4 compared to the Steelers?

Compare it to 2010 onwards.

The demand for 3-4 DL has grown dramatically, resulting in guys that would previously been mid-round talents becoming early round players.

Supply & demand.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

Tuesday, February 07, 2012

Steelers Restructure LaMarr Woodley's Contract; Clear $6.5M In 2012 Cap Space

The Pittsburgh Steelers cleared $6.56 million of salary cap space by renegotiating the contract of outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley, a league source confirmed on Tuesday.

Franchised by the Steelers prior to last year's lockout, Woodley signed a five-year extension worth $52.5 million on August. Woodley received a $13 million signing bonus, $4 million option bonus and a $1.1 million base salary which resulted in a 2011 cap number of $7.7 million. In 2012, Woodley was due a $3.4 million base salary and had a $5.5 million roster bonus due on the 5th day of the 2012 league year for a cap number of $11.5 million.

On Monday, Woodley agreed to a restructure that lowered his base salary to $700,000. The remaining $2.7 million in base salary was combined with his $5.5 million roster bonus and converted into an $8.2 million signing bonus, which will be prorated over the remaining five seasons of Woodley's contract.

Woodley's cap number in 2012 is now $4.94 million.

Woodley's base salaries in 2013-16 were unchanged, but $1.64 million was added to each year's cap number.

Even with the Woodley restructure, the Steelers are still well over a 2012 salary cap that is not expected to increase much, if at all. Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, safety Troy Polamalu and linebackers James Harrison and Lawrence Timmons each have cap numbers in excess of $9 million and are potential restructure candidates.

Posted by Brian McIntyre

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[ikestops85]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

Doesn't restructuring a contract just postpone the inevitable? Sure, we got relief this year but we've increased Woodley's hit by 1.64 million on the remaining years of the contract. There comes a time when you just have to pay the piper and reduce peoples contracts or cut them.

I'm by no means an expert at figuring out the salary cap but logic just tells me this isn't necessarily a good thing and will come back to bite us in the arse.

[phillyesq]

Re: Steelers restructure Woodley, free up 6.5mil

Doesn't restructuring a contract just postpone the inevitable? Sure, we got relief this year but we've increased Woodley's hit by 1.64 million on the remaining years of the contract. There comes a time when you just have to pay the piper and reduce peoples contracts or cut them.

I'm by no means an expert at figuring out the salary cap but logic just tells me this isn't necessarily a good thing and will come back to bite us in the arse.

Restructuring does delay the inevitable. It's a delicate balance, and the Steelers typically do a pretty good job.

Down the road, Woodley, Ben, Timmons and others will have some huge cap hits. The Steelers better hope that league revenues continue to increase, which will minimize the impact of these restructurings down the road.