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  • pittpete
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    • Aug 2008
    • 6825

    #46
    Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

    Mazze is exactly like Insanesteelersfan without the namecalling
    I mean dude every post you make is about Haley.
    Ok we know you dont like him,please move on
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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #47
      Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

      Originally posted by pittpete
      Probably means D.Johnson makes the team.
      Terrible news

      That is the real tragedy in all of this. There are two TEs rated at near the bottom of Round 1. If I'm the Steelers, I'm looking at that real hard.

      D. Johnson is a drive killer either with a terrible block or a dropped pass. I never thought anyone was a worse receiver than Dan Krieder until Johnson showed up. Both show the ability to tackle themselves whenever they receive the ball.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • grotonsteel
        Hall of Famer
        • Jul 2008
        • 2810

        #48
        Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Originally posted by pittpete
        Probably means D.Johnson makes the team.
        Terrible news

        That is the real tragedy in all of this. There are two TEs rated at near the bottom of Round 1. If I'm the Steelers, I'm looking at that real hard.

        D. Johnson is a drive killer either with a terrible block or a dropped pass. I never thought anyone was a worse receiver than Dan Krieder until Johnson showed up. Both show the ability to tackle themselves whenever they receive the ball.
        D Johnson is drive killer. Offense would be far better if we had a decent TE instead of this.

        I would not mind Steelers drafting a pass-catching TE in Rd 4-5.
        Steelers Draft 2015
        Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
        Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
        Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
        Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
        Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
        Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
        Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #49
          Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

          Originally posted by Oviedo
          There are two TEs rated at near the bottom of Round 1. If I'm the Steelers, I'm looking at that real hard.
          The top TE's in this class, Dwayne Allen and Coby Fleener, should both be solid pros, but I can't see up using the 24th overall pick on a TE. Perhaps a Ladarius Green or Michael Egnew in the middle rounds, but not with our first pick.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • Eddie Spaghetti
            Hall of Famer
            • Jul 2008
            • 4123

            #50
            Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

            I don't want a TE in the 1st, but I would love to see david johnson bumped off the roster.

            dead weight.

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            • fezziwig
              Hall of Famer
              • Jan 2009
              • 3515

              #51
              Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

              I'm with you guys, D.Johnson does nothing well. I've never seen the value in him or the talent. Oh yeah, Arians prefered him to a fullback that should have been doing D.J job.

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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #52
                Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

                Originally posted by fezziwig
                I'm with you guys, D.Johnson does nothing well. I've never seen the value in him or the talent. Oh yeah, Arians prefered him to a fullback that should have been doing D.J job.
                I think Owen Schmitt is a FA. Or draft Chris Diehl (Clemson) late in the draft. The kid is a beast.
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • grotonsteel
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 2810

                  #53
                  Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  Originally posted by fezziwig
                  I'm with you guys, D.Johnson does nothing well. I've never seen the value in him or the talent. Oh yeah, Arians prefered him to a fullback that should have been doing D.J job.
                  I think Owen Schmitt is a FA. Or draft Chris Diehl (Clemson) late in the draft. The kid is a beast.

                  Not a big fan Owen Schmitt but Chris Diehl should be a good choice late in the draft.
                  Steelers Draft 2015
                  Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
                  Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
                  Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
                  Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
                  Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
                  Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
                  Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #54
                    Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

                    Originally posted by fezziwig
                    I'm with you guys, D.Johnson does nothing well. I've never seen the value in him or the talent. Oh yeah, Arians prefered him to a fullback that should have been doing D.J job.
                    I thought Johnson would be beloved, since he took over for board whipping boy Carey Davis, but he's not.

                    I thought Todd Haley would be beloved, since he took over for board whipping boy Arians, but he's not.

                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • pittpete
                      Legend
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 6825

                      #55
                      Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

                      You mean Carey Davis and D. Johnson were different people?
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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #56
                        Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

                        Originally posted by pittpete
                        You mean Carey Davis and D. Johnson were different people?
                        Shaved his dreads...fooled you!
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35649

                          #57
                          Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

                          Speculation Surrounds Alleged Suspension of Steelers TE Weslye Saunders

                          by Neal Coolong on Feb 7, 2012



                          It was reported earlier Tuesday that TE Weslye Saunders will be suspended for the first four games of the 2012 season. However, there was no confirmation of whether it was for the league's substance abuse policy (drugs, narcotics, etc.) or the league's steroid and related substances policy (HGH, anabolic steroids, etc.)

                          There are at least two writers suggesting Saunders' alleged positive test came not from PEDs or drugs, but rather, a therapeutic drug which contained an ingredient on the league's list of banned substances.

                          The NFL has run into this issue in the past - with a player currently on the Steelers roster.

                          As Georgia Tech running back Jonathan Dwyer prepared for the draft in 2010, his agent, Robert London, notified every NFL team that his client took Adderall - a medication for attention deficit disorder (ADD) - which is amphetamine salts. London told teams that Dwyer's drug test would come back positive for amphetamines.

                          Dwyer's test came back positive, as predicted. The league considers it to be a therapeutic exemption though if the player has the proper prescriptions for the medication (as a Schedule II Controlled Substance in the United States, you cannot possess it without a prescription, and that prescription must be hand-written from a doctor).

                          But instead of concealing the situation or reporting it as such an exemption, the information somehow made its way into the same report as all of the other positive test results - like former USC TE Anthony Davis, who tested positive for marijuana - and was released to the media in the same way.

                          Dwyer was thought to be as high as a second-round draft pick in 2010. The Steelers drafted him in the sixth round with the 188th pick overall. Perhaps that wasn't just because of the drug test - his weight was certainly a concern at The Combine that year - but the negative attention brought to him by the test result certainly didn't help either.

                          This is not to suggest that the NFL's anti-drug rules are inappropriate; rather, it is the idea that the league is in the position to potentially and powerfully damage the lives of innocent people. The league should be candidly aware of the amount of media coverage it receives, and with that, it has a responsibility to ensure privacy of those matters to the highest level of its ability. Dwyer and his agent took the appropriate steps to inform the league of the medication he was prescribed, and notified them his drug test would come back positive for amphetamines. The league failed Dwyer, if not from a legal sense, then from an ethical one.

                          Kaboly and Kovacevic are strongly suggesting that Saunders' case is very similar, if not the same. It's highly unlikely they would go as far as they did if Saunders had tested positive for something illegal. Plus, amphetamines are covered under the league's substance abuse policy, which would mean a suspension would be warranted in the event of a third failed drug test by Saunders.

                          Perhaps the information regarding his suspension was prematurely released from a veteran reporter (Aaron Wilson) who reported Saunders would be suspended. As we've written, a player can be suspended for four games (the amount of time Wilson reported) for violating the league's substance abuse policy for a third time, or for a first violation of the league's policy on steroids and related substances.

                          If it's a therapeutic drug, and this is indeed Saunders' third failed drug test (taking Wilson's information as accurate), it suggests a lack of communication between the league and Saunders, or a simple situation where the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

                          The substance Saunders allegedly tested positive for won't formally be released to the public - we can only look at the compelling but intentionally vague information from two beat reporters, and situations like Dwyer's for comparison.

                          All of this suggests there is something boiling under the surface, and perhaps Saunders has something of a battle ahead of him.

                          Just ask Vikings DT Kevin Williams how far the NFL is willing to go to protect the validity of their drug policies.

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                          • steelblood
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4166

                            #58
                            Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

                            Why do the reporters need to be vague? Who are they protecting? If they have the truth and it exonerates Saunders, why wouldn't they fully report it. This is weird. In that case, the only embarrassed party would be the NFL. And, the reporters have already claimed the NFL is wrong (in a roundabout way).
                            Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              #59
                              Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

                              Perhaps the reporters are choosing not to divulge too much information because they have not been permitted to...

                              If Saunders takes a therapeutic medication, it isn't anyone's business but his and his doctor's...

                              If Saunders is innocent of wrongdoing, it is the responsibility of the NFL to make it right, not the beat reporters...

                              Though, if the NFL upholds the suspension, I would guess that all will be revealed...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                              • steelblood
                                Hall of Famer
                                • May 2008
                                • 4166

                                #60
                                Re: Wesley Saunders Suspended?

                                Maybe slapstick, but by sort of saying something, the beat writers have taken up the argument and have intimated what they know. If this truly were a privacy issue, they would not be mentioning types of drugs etc.
                                Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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