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  • Chadman
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6537

    #91
    Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency & Draft thread

    We'll come back to do the CB's soon, but for now- let's look at a "Position of Need" for the Steelers- NT.

    As Chadman stated earlier, there isn't a lot of Combine info to work on as the last drafted NT for the Steelers was Chris Hoke- who just retired. Casey Hampton obviously has been around a long time now. The only other guy to work with is undrafted 2nd year guy- Steve McLendon. We'll do what we can...

    Casey Hampton
    6'1" 314lbs
    40 Yard- 5.25
    Bench- 34 Reps


    Steve McLendon
    6'2" 306lbs
    40 Yard- 5.15
    Bench- 31 Reps
    Vertical- 29.5"
    20 Yard Shuttle- 4.45
    3-Cone- 7.35

    Chris Hoke
    6'2" 305lbs


    Chadman would love to tell you more about the Pro Day/ Combine numbers of Casey & Hokey, but they just don't seem to exist.

    So, we work with what we've got.

    Obviously, height we can judge. 6'1" or 6'2" seems ideal. Probably very good for leverage reasons. What is interesting is that none of these guys were 'massive' coming out of college. Hoke never really did bulk up. Obviously Casey has, and Chadman believes McLendon is still around the 300lbs area. (Official site has him at 280lbs- there is no way he's 280lbs!)

    What this tells us is that the Steelers are not locked in to the 330lb monsters at NT. Functional strength (Casey 34 reps, McLendon 31 reps) seem more important.

    We'll also use McLendon's 30" vertical as a guide to 'explosiveness' and if applicable, the 3-cone of 7.35 as the minimum requirement to determine short area quickness.

    The Combine Candidates- Height & Weight (6'1" to 6'3" 300lbs-340lbs)
    Jerel Worthy 6'2" 308lbs
    Brandon Thompson 6'2" 314lbs
    Mike Martin 6'1" 306lbs
    Alameda Ta'amu 6'3" 348lbs
    Marcus Forston 6'1" 301lbs
    Hebron Fangupo 6'1" 323lbs

    Bench Press of 30+
    Hebron Fangupo 36 reps
    Mike Martin 36 reps
    Marcus Forston 35 reps
    Alameda Ta'amu 35 reps
    Brandon Thompson 35 reps
    Jerel Worthy DNP

    Vertical of 30"+
    Mike Martin 33.5"
    Hebron Fangupo 31.5"
    Brandon Thompson 31"
    Jerel Worthy 28.5"
    Marcus Forston 28"
    Alameda Ta'amu 26"

    3-Cone of 7.35 or lower
    Mike Martin 7.19
    Jerel Worthy 7.60
    Marcus Forston 7.64
    Hebron Fangupo 7.94
    Brandon Thompson 7.97
    Alameda Ta'amu DNP

    The results are pretty clear- Michigan's NT Mike Martin is, statistically, the best fit for the Steelers. To add to this, the Steelers HAVE interviewed him at the Combine. He's as much an athletic freak as you'll see at NT. Most likely, he'd be a similar type of player to Hoke, rather than Hampton. But he could add 10lbs & be a more traditional run plugger.

    The other 2 names to keep on the radar are Hebron Fangupo & Brandon Thompson. Both pass a number of the criteria, but fail in the short area quickness. If the Steelers are looking for just a 2-down run plugger, both of these guys might be suitable. Keep in mind- the Steelers have not been afraid to draft from BYU in the past- Hoke & Keisel are good examples of that. Fangupo also brings versatility as he has played NT & DE at BYU.
    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

    Light up the darkness.

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    • SS Laser
      Pro Bowler
      • Apr 2009
      • 1928

      #92
      Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency & Draft thread

      Originally posted by Chadman
      We'll come back to do the CB's soon, but for now- let's look at a "Position of Need" for the Steelers- NT.

      As Chadman stated earlier, there isn't a lot of Combine info to work on as the last drafted NT for the Steelers was Chris Hoke- who just retired. Casey Hampton obviously has been around a long time now. The only other guy to work with is undrafted 2nd year guy- Steve McLendon. We'll do what we can...

      Casey Hampton
      6'1" 314lbs
      40 Yard- 5.25
      Bench- 34 Reps


      Steve McLendon
      6'2" 306lbs
      40 Yard- 5.15
      Bench- 31 Reps
      Vertical- 29.5"
      20 Yard Shuttle- 4.45
      3-Cone- 7.35

      Chris Hoke
      6'2" 305lbs


      Chadman would love to tell you more about the Pro Day/ Combine numbers of Casey & Hokey, but they just don't seem to exist.

      So, we work with what we've got.

      Obviously, height we can judge. 6'1" or 6'2" seems ideal. Probably very good for leverage reasons. What is interesting is that none of these guys were 'massive' coming out of college. Hoke never really did bulk up. Obviously Casey has, and Chadman believes McLendon is still around the 300lbs area. (Official site has him at 280lbs- there is no way he's 280lbs!)

      What this tells us is that the Steelers are not locked in to the 330lb monsters at NT. Functional strength (Casey 34 reps, McLendon 31 reps) seem more important.

      We'll also use McLendon's 30" vertical as a guide to 'explosiveness' and if applicable, the 3-cone of 7.35 as the minimum requirement to determine short area quickness.

      The Combine Candidates- Height & Weight (6'1" to 6'3" 300lbs-340lbs)
      Jerel Worthy 6'2" 308lbs
      Brandon Thompson 6'2" 314lbs
      Mike Martin 6'1" 306lbs
      Alameda Ta'amu 6'3" 348lbs
      Marcus Forston 6'1" 301lbs
      Hebron Fangupo 6'1" 323lbs

      Bench Press of 30+
      Hebron Fangupo 36 reps
      Mike Martin 36 reps
      Marcus Forston 35 reps
      Alameda Ta'amu 35 reps
      Brandon Thompson 35 reps
      Jerel Worthy DNP

      Vertical of 30"+
      Mike Martin 33.5"
      Hebron Fangupo 31.5"
      Brandon Thompson 31"
      Jerel Worthy 28.5"
      Marcus Forston 28"
      Alameda Ta'amu 26"

      3-Cone of 7.35 or lower
      Mike Martin 7.19
      Jerel Worthy 7.60
      Marcus Forston 7.64
      Hebron Fangupo 7.94
      Brandon Thompson 7.97
      Alameda Ta'amu DNP

      The results are pretty clear- Michigan's NT Mike Martin is, statistically, the best fit for the Steelers. To add to this, the Steelers HAVE interviewed him at the Combine. He's as much an athletic freak as you'll see at NT. Most likely, he'd be a similar type of player to Hoke, rather than Hampton. But he could add 10lbs & be a more traditional run plugger.

      The other 2 names to keep on the radar are Hebron Fangupo & Brandon Thompson. Both pass a number of the criteria, but fail in the short area quickness. If the Steelers are looking for just a 2-down run plugger, both of these guys might be suitable. Keep in mind- the Steelers have not been afraid to draft from BYU in the past- Hoke & Keisel are good examples of that. Fangupo also brings versatility as he has played NT & DE at BYU.
      I am being to wonder if Hood has grown into more of a NT for the steelers? And would DE be a eariler pick then we all think.

      3. Ziggy Hood- 2009 1st Round pick
      6'3" 300lb
      40 Yard- 4.83
      Bench- 34 Reps (4th at Combine)
      Vertical- 33" (12th at Combine)
      Broad- 9'00"
      20 Yard Shuttle- 4.55
      3 Cone- 7.50

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      • Chadman
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 6537

        #93
        Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency & Draft thread

        Originally posted by SS Laser
        Originally posted by Chadman
        We'll come back to do the CB's soon, but for now- let's look at a "Position of Need" for the Steelers- NT.

        As Chadman stated earlier, there isn't a lot of Combine info to work on as the last drafted NT for the Steelers was Chris Hoke- who just retired. Casey Hampton obviously has been around a long time now. The only other guy to work with is undrafted 2nd year guy- Steve McLendon. We'll do what we can...

        Casey Hampton
        6'1" 314lbs
        40 Yard- 5.25
        Bench- 34 Reps


        Steve McLendon
        6'2" 306lbs
        40 Yard- 5.15
        Bench- 31 Reps
        Vertical- 29.5"
        20 Yard Shuttle- 4.45
        3-Cone- 7.35

        Chris Hoke
        6'2" 305lbs


        Chadman would love to tell you more about the Pro Day/ Combine numbers of Casey & Hokey, but they just don't seem to exist.

        So, we work with what we've got.

        Obviously, height we can judge. 6'1" or 6'2" seems ideal. Probably very good for leverage reasons. What is interesting is that none of these guys were 'massive' coming out of college. Hoke never really did bulk up. Obviously Casey has, and Chadman believes McLendon is still around the 300lbs area. (Official site has him at 280lbs- there is no way he's 280lbs!)

        What this tells us is that the Steelers are not locked in to the 330lb monsters at NT. Functional strength (Casey 34 reps, McLendon 31 reps) seem more important.

        We'll also use McLendon's 30" vertical as a guide to 'explosiveness' and if applicable, the 3-cone of 7.35 as the minimum requirement to determine short area quickness.

        The Combine Candidates- Height & Weight (6'1" to 6'3" 300lbs-340lbs)
        Jerel Worthy 6'2" 308lbs
        Brandon Thompson 6'2" 314lbs
        Mike Martin 6'1" 306lbs
        Alameda Ta'amu 6'3" 348lbs
        Marcus Forston 6'1" 301lbs
        Hebron Fangupo 6'1" 323lbs

        Bench Press of 30+
        Hebron Fangupo 36 reps
        Mike Martin 36 reps
        Marcus Forston 35 reps
        Alameda Ta'amu 35 reps
        Brandon Thompson 35 reps
        Jerel Worthy DNP

        Vertical of 30"+
        Mike Martin 33.5"
        Hebron Fangupo 31.5"
        Brandon Thompson 31"
        Jerel Worthy 28.5"
        Marcus Forston 28"
        Alameda Ta'amu 26"

        3-Cone of 7.35 or lower
        Mike Martin 7.19
        Jerel Worthy 7.60
        Marcus Forston 7.64
        Hebron Fangupo 7.94
        Brandon Thompson 7.97
        Alameda Ta'amu DNP

        The results are pretty clear- Michigan's NT Mike Martin is, statistically, the best fit for the Steelers. To add to this, the Steelers HAVE interviewed him at the Combine. He's as much an athletic freak as you'll see at NT. Most likely, he'd be a similar type of player to Hoke, rather than Hampton. But he could add 10lbs & be a more traditional run plugger.

        The other 2 names to keep on the radar are Hebron Fangupo & Brandon Thompson. Both pass a number of the criteria, but fail in the short area quickness. If the Steelers are looking for just a 2-down run plugger, both of these guys might be suitable. Keep in mind- the Steelers have not been afraid to draft from BYU in the past- Hoke & Keisel are good examples of that. Fangupo also brings versatility as he has played NT & DE at BYU.
        I am being to wonder if Hood has grown into more of a NT for the steelers? And would DE be a eariler pick then we all think.

        3. Ziggy Hood- 2009 1st Round pick
        6'3" 300lb
        40 Yard- 4.83
        Bench- 34 Reps (4th at Combine)
        Vertical- 33" (12th at Combine)
        Broad- 9'00"
        20 Yard Shuttle- 4.55
        3 Cone- 7.50
        Excellent point. And there's quite a nice group of 3-4 DE's available....
        The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

        Light up the darkness.

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          #94
          Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency & Draft thread

          Originally posted by Chadman
          Mychal Kendricks did, however, complete all the drills. The only knock on him is size- 5'11" is not good. His weight is fine- 240lbs is perfect, but his height really puts him out of the Steeler ratios. His every other measurable however, is good. 4.47 40 Yard, 24 Reps, 39.5" Vertical, 127" Broad jump, 4.19 20 Yard Shuttle...all good.
          This guy's listed as being 6'0" 242 lbs. But I'd bet he's closer to the 5'11" side than the 6'1" side.



          I'm not overly worried about a linebacker's height. Gary Brackett of the Colts has been an effective inside backer at 5'11". Back in the day, Sam Mills was 5'9" and he made the Pro Bowl 5 times.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23774

            #95
            Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency & Draft thread

            Originally posted by Chadman
            We'll come back to do the CB's soon, but for now- let's look at a "Position of Need" for the Steelers- NT.

            As Chadman stated earlier, there isn't a lot of Combine info to work on as the last drafted NT for the Steelers was Chris Hoke- who just retired. Casey Hampton obviously has been around a long time now. The only other guy to work with is undrafted 2nd year guy- Steve McLendon. We'll do what we can...

            Casey Hampton
            6'1" 314lbs
            40 Yard- 5.25
            Bench- 34 Reps


            Steve McLendon
            6'2" 306lbs
            40 Yard- 5.15
            Bench- 31 Reps
            Vertical- 29.5"
            20 Yard Shuttle- 4.45
            3-Cone- 7.35

            Chris Hoke
            6'2" 305lbs


            Chadman would love to tell you more about the Pro Day/ Combine numbers of Casey & Hokey, but they just don't seem to exist.

            So, we work with what we've got.

            Obviously, height we can judge. 6'1" or 6'2" seems ideal. Probably very good for leverage reasons. What is interesting is that none of these guys were 'massive' coming out of college. Hoke never really did bulk up. Obviously Casey has, and Chadman believes McLendon is still around the 300lbs area. (Official site has him at 280lbs- there is no way he's 280lbs!)

            What this tells us is that the Steelers are not locked in to the 330lb monsters at NT. Functional strength (Casey 34 reps, McLendon 31 reps) seem more important.

            We'll also use McLendon's 30" vertical as a guide to 'explosiveness' and if applicable, the 3-cone of 7.35 as the minimum requirement to determine short area quickness.

            The Combine Candidates- Height & Weight (6'1" to 6'3" 300lbs-340lbs)
            Jerel Worthy 6'2" 308lbs
            Brandon Thompson 6'2" 314lbs
            Mike Martin 6'1" 306lbs
            Alameda Ta'amu 6'3" 348lbs
            Marcus Forston 6'1" 301lbs
            Hebron Fangupo 6'1" 323lbs

            Bench Press of 30+
            Hebron Fangupo 36 reps
            Mike Martin 36 reps
            Marcus Forston 35 reps
            Alameda Ta'amu 35 reps
            Brandon Thompson 35 reps
            Jerel Worthy DNP

            Vertical of 30"+
            Mike Martin 33.5"
            Hebron Fangupo 31.5"
            Brandon Thompson 31"
            Jerel Worthy 28.5"
            Marcus Forston 28"
            Alameda Ta'amu 26"

            3-Cone of 7.35 or lower
            Mike Martin 7.19
            Jerel Worthy 7.60
            Marcus Forston 7.64
            Hebron Fangupo 7.94
            Brandon Thompson 7.97
            Alameda Ta'amu DNP

            The results are pretty clear- Michigan's NT Mike Martin is, statistically, the best fit for the Steelers. To add to this, the Steelers HAVE interviewed him at the Combine. He's as much an athletic freak as you'll see at NT. Most likely, he'd be a similar type of player to Hoke, rather than Hampton. But he could add 10lbs & be a more traditional run plugger.

            The other 2 names to keep on the radar are Hebron Fangupo & Brandon Thompson. Both pass a number of the criteria, but fail in the short area quickness. If the Steelers are looking for just a 2-down run plugger, both of these guys might be suitable. Keep in mind- the Steelers have not been afraid to draft from BYU in the past- Hoke & Keisel are good examples of that. Fangupo also brings versatility as he has played NT & DE at BYU.

            I'd prefer we get more of a penetrating, attacking NT than the Hampton style of "blocker occupier." Need to get away from the 2-down run stopper. The pass will beat us not the run.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • SS Laser
              Pro Bowler
              • Apr 2009
              • 1928

              #96
              Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency & Draft thread

              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Originally posted by Chadman
              We'll come back to do the CB's soon, but for now- let's look at a "Position of Need" for the Steelers- NT.

              As Chadman stated earlier, there isn't a lot of Combine info to work on as the last drafted NT for the Steelers was Chris Hoke- who just retired. Casey Hampton obviously has been around a long time now. The only other guy to work with is undrafted 2nd year guy- Steve McLendon. We'll do what we can...

              Casey Hampton
              6'1" 314lbs
              40 Yard- 5.25
              Bench- 34 Reps


              Steve McLendon
              6'2" 306lbs
              40 Yard- 5.15
              Bench- 31 Reps
              Vertical- 29.5"
              20 Yard Shuttle- 4.45
              3-Cone- 7.35

              Chris Hoke
              6'2" 305lbs


              Chadman would love to tell you more about the Pro Day/ Combine numbers of Casey & Hokey, but they just don't seem to exist.

              So, we work with what we've got.

              Obviously, height we can judge. 6'1" or 6'2" seems ideal. Probably very good for leverage reasons. What is interesting is that none of these guys were 'massive' coming out of college. Hoke never really did bulk up. Obviously Casey has, and Chadman believes McLendon is still around the 300lbs area. (Official site has him at 280lbs- there is no way he's 280lbs!)

              What this tells us is that the Steelers are not locked in to the 330lb monsters at NT. Functional strength (Casey 34 reps, McLendon 31 reps) seem more important.

              We'll also use McLendon's 30" vertical as a guide to 'explosiveness' and if applicable, the 3-cone of 7.35 as the minimum requirement to determine short area quickness.

              The Combine Candidates- Height & Weight (6'1" to 6'3" 300lbs-340lbs)
              Jerel Worthy 6'2" 308lbs
              Brandon Thompson 6'2" 314lbs
              Mike Martin 6'1" 306lbs
              Alameda Ta'amu 6'3" 348lbs
              Marcus Forston 6'1" 301lbs
              Hebron Fangupo 6'1" 323lbs

              Bench Press of 30+
              Hebron Fangupo 36 reps
              Mike Martin 36 reps
              Marcus Forston 35 reps
              Alameda Ta'amu 35 reps
              Brandon Thompson 35 reps
              Jerel Worthy DNP

              Vertical of 30"+
              Mike Martin 33.5"
              Hebron Fangupo 31.5"
              Brandon Thompson 31"
              Jerel Worthy 28.5"
              Marcus Forston 28"
              Alameda Ta'amu 26"

              3-Cone of 7.35 or lower
              Mike Martin 7.19
              Jerel Worthy 7.60
              Marcus Forston 7.64
              Hebron Fangupo 7.94
              Brandon Thompson 7.97
              Alameda Ta'amu DNP

              The results are pretty clear- Michigan's NT Mike Martin is, statistically, the best fit for the Steelers. To add to this, the Steelers HAVE interviewed him at the Combine. He's as much an athletic freak as you'll see at NT. Most likely, he'd be a similar type of player to Hoke, rather than Hampton. But he could add 10lbs & be a more traditional run plugger.

              The other 2 names to keep on the radar are Hebron Fangupo & Brandon Thompson. Both pass a number of the criteria, but fail in the short area quickness. If the Steelers are looking for just a 2-down run plugger, both of these guys might be suitable. Keep in mind- the Steelers have not been afraid to draft from BYU in the past- Hoke & Keisel are good examples of that. Fangupo also brings versatility as he has played NT & DE at BYU.

              I'd prefer we get more of a penetrating, attacking NT than the Hampton style of "blocker occupier." Need to get away from the 2-down run stopper. The pass will beat us not the run.
              I am not sure that will happen in this defense. I think they try to have both. A serious run stopper like Hampton and more of a rush guy in Hoke. But was Hoke really that guy?

              What would you consider Hood at NT? I think Hood could be really good at NT with Heyward in his spot and Da Beard. But at that point we need Keisel's back up/replacement. Not sure if any of the DE's on the roster/pratice squad are the answer. We have not seen any time for them guys that I remember. And maybe another back up for NT incase McLendon is not the answer. He also might be more of a rush/pressure NT.

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              • focosteeler
                Starter
                • May 2010
                • 760

                #97
                Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency & Draft thread

                Originally posted by SS Laser
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                Originally posted by Chadman
                We'll come back to do the CB's soon, but for now- let's look at a "Position of Need" for the Steelers- NT.

                As Chadman stated earlier, there isn't a lot of Combine info to work on as the last drafted NT for the Steelers was Chris Hoke- who just retired. Casey Hampton obviously has been around a long time now. The only other guy to work with is undrafted 2nd year guy- Steve McLendon. We'll do what we can...

                Casey Hampton
                6'1" 314lbs
                40 Yard- 5.25
                Bench- 34 Reps


                Steve McLendon
                6'2" 306lbs
                40 Yard- 5.15
                Bench- 31 Reps
                Vertical- 29.5"
                20 Yard Shuttle- 4.45
                3-Cone- 7.35

                Chris Hoke
                6'2" 305lbs


                Chadman would love to tell you more about the Pro Day/ Combine numbers of Casey & Hokey, but they just don't seem to exist.

                So, we work with what we've got.

                Obviously, height we can judge. 6'1" or 6'2" seems ideal. Probably very good for leverage reasons. What is interesting is that none of these guys were 'massive' coming out of college. Hoke never really did bulk up. Obviously Casey has, and Chadman believes McLendon is still around the 300lbs area. (Official site has him at 280lbs- there is no way he's 280lbs!)

                What this tells us is that the Steelers are not locked in to the 330lb monsters at NT. Functional strength (Casey 34 reps, McLendon 31 reps) seem more important.

                We'll also use McLendon's 30" vertical as a guide to 'explosiveness' and if applicable, the 3-cone of 7.35 as the minimum requirement to determine short area quickness.

                The Combine Candidates- Height & Weight (6'1" to 6'3" 300lbs-340lbs)
                Jerel Worthy 6'2" 308lbs
                Brandon Thompson 6'2" 314lbs
                Mike Martin 6'1" 306lbs
                Alameda Ta'amu 6'3" 348lbs
                Marcus Forston 6'1" 301lbs
                Hebron Fangupo 6'1" 323lbs

                Bench Press of 30+
                Hebron Fangupo 36 reps
                Mike Martin 36 reps
                Marcus Forston 35 reps
                Alameda Ta'amu 35 reps
                Brandon Thompson 35 reps
                Jerel Worthy DNP

                Vertical of 30"+
                Mike Martin 33.5"
                Hebron Fangupo 31.5"
                Brandon Thompson 31"
                Jerel Worthy 28.5"
                Marcus Forston 28"
                Alameda Ta'amu 26"

                3-Cone of 7.35 or lower
                Mike Martin 7.19
                Jerel Worthy 7.60
                Marcus Forston 7.64
                Hebron Fangupo 7.94
                Brandon Thompson 7.97
                Alameda Ta'amu DNP

                The results are pretty clear- Michigan's NT Mike Martin is, statistically, the best fit for the Steelers. To add to this, the Steelers HAVE interviewed him at the Combine. He's as much an athletic freak as you'll see at NT. Most likely, he'd be a similar type of player to Hoke, rather than Hampton. But he could add 10lbs & be a more traditional run plugger.

                The other 2 names to keep on the radar are Hebron Fangupo & Brandon Thompson. Both pass a number of the criteria, but fail in the short area quickness. If the Steelers are looking for just a 2-down run plugger, both of these guys might be suitable. Keep in mind- the Steelers have not been afraid to draft from BYU in the past- Hoke & Keisel are good examples of that. Fangupo also brings versatility as he has played NT & DE at BYU.

                I'd prefer we get more of a penetrating, attacking NT than the Hampton style of "blocker occupier." Need to get away from the 2-down run stopper. The pass will beat us not the run.
                I am not sure that will happen in this defense. I think they try to have both. A serious run stopper like Hampton and more of a rush guy in Hoke. But was Hoke really that guy?

                What would you consider Hood at NT? I think Hood could be really good at NT with Heyward in his spot and Da Beard. But at that point we need Keisel's back up/replacement. Not sure if any of the DE's on the roster/pratice squad are the answer. We have not seen any time for them guys that I remember. And maybe another back up for NT incase McLendon is not the answer. He also might be more of a rush/pressure NT.
                Hood does fit the 'type' really well. I would like to see how he would do playing between Heyward and Keisel. I say start force feeding him protein bars and draft a guy late like Kheeston Randall for a back up.
                1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
                2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
                3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
                4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
                5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
                6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
                7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340

                UDFA
                DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
                OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242

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                • SS Laser
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1928

                  #98
                  Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency & Draft thread

                  I am not sure you need to force feed Hood to much. If his is still listed at 300 I bet it is 10 or 20lbs higher, maybe more if he was told he wll play more NT this season. With his strength that is enough weight I think. Does our NT really need to be 350?

                  Also Mclendon looks bigger then 280 but not a big belly guy. I bet he is 300 or so now. But I agree grab another NT in this draft later on. See if he can be coached up grow into it.

                  Sorry to derail your thread Chadman! Waiting on the CB's.

                  Comment

                  • steelz09
                    Administrator
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 4675

                    #99
                    Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency & Draft thread

                    Casey Hampton
                    6'1" 314lbs <---------------

                    Yeah, sure.. 314 lbs. lol. His playing weight these days have to be around 350-360 and that's likely on an empty stomach.
                    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                    • Chadman
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6537

                      Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency &amp; Draft thread

                      Originally posted by jhansle1
                      Casey Hampton
                      6'1" 314lbs <---------------

                      Yeah, sure.. 314 lbs. lol. His playing weight these days have to be around 350-360 and that's likely on an empty stomach.
                      Completely agree jhansle- but 314lbs was his listed weight when he was drafted. He added his weight after being drafted.

                      All the weights Chadman has listed have been at draft time, not current weight, to give an indication of what the Steelers were looking at, at that time.
                      The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                      Light up the darkness.

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                      • Chadman
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 6537

                        Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency &amp; Draft thread

                        Sorry to derail your thread Chadman! Waiting on the CB's.
                        Don't be sorry- this is good- discuss, debate...it's not just a thread for Chadman..
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                        • Chadman
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                          • May 2008
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                          Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency &amp; Draft thread

                          I'm not overly worried about a linebacker's height. Gary Brackett of the Colts has been an effective inside backer at 5'11". Back in the day, Sam Mills was 5'9" and he made the Pro Bowl 5 times.
                          Chadman agrees with you Ruthless- but for the purpose of "history", Chadman finds that the Steelers tend to shy away from guys under 6'1".

                          That said, Kendricks looks a player.
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                            • May 2008
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                            Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency &amp; Draft thread

                            Hood does fit the 'type' really well. I would like to see how he would do playing between Heyward and Keisel. I say start force feeding him protein bars and draft a guy late like Kheeston Randall for a back up.
                            Not only that- Kheeston Randall hits on numerous levels as far as his physical make-up goes, as well as big college/ big production.

                            Hood is definately in the Steelers NT mold- just a question now of if the Steelers feel there are better options in the draft at NT.
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                              • May 2008
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                              Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency &amp; Draft thread

                              I'd prefer we get more of a penetrating, attacking NT than the Hampton style of "blocker occupier." Need to get away from the 2-down run stopper. The pass will beat us not the run.
                              Could Hood be that guy O? If you watch tape of Mike Martin from Michigan, you also see a smaller, penetrating type NT. Martin is very strong, and a wrestling background would suggest he knows leverege.
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                                • May 2008
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                                Re: Chadman's 2012 Off-season Free Agency &amp; Draft thread

                                What would you consider Hood at NT? I think Hood could be really good at NT with Heyward in his spot and Da Beard. But at that point we need Keisel's back up/replacement. Not sure if any of the DE's on the roster/pratice squad are the answer. We have not seen any time for them guys that I remember. And maybe another back up for NT incase McLendon is not the answer. He also might be more of a rush/pressure NT.
                                If Hood is pencilled in as the next NT, you'll likely see him splitting time between NT & DE, particularly as Hampton looks like being brought back this season. Chances are we'd see a high to mid round DE added this year, to learn the position, in preparation to become the #1 back-up when Hood shifts to NT/Heyward becomes the starter at DE. Then this year's pick would be expected to be the eventual replacement to Keisel..
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