Are You Watching, LeBeau?

[BradshawsHairdresser]

If the *'s, with their bottom-ranked D, can do this to the Donks, why couldn't you have done it with your "#1 ranked" defense?

[grotonsteel]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

I still can't believe Steelers Defense got torched for 300 yards by Tebow.

[feltdizz]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Announcer just said: "If you just play him straight up" implying that we tried to get fancy in defending Tebow.

The Pats are able to get pressure with their front 3 or 4... something we couldn't do.

I still don't understand how the Pats, NO and GB pass defenses are so bad. The stats have to be skewed or maybe we are missing something. Does the quick scoring by the offense force opponents to pass more often have something to do with it? In 2009 the offense was getting blamed for scoring too fast...

[birtikidis]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Announcer just said: "If you just play him straight up" implying that we tried to get fancy in defending Tebow.

The Pats are able to get pressure with their front 3 or 4... something we couldn't do.

I still don't understand how the Pats, NO and GB pass defenses are so bad. The stats have to be skewed or maybe we are missing something. Does the quick scoring by the offense force opponents to pass more often have something to do with it? In 2009 the offense was getting blamed for scoring too fast...

they score a ****ton of points forcing teams to abandon the run and just throwing the ball.

[Oviedo]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Why would it matter if LeBeau was watching? He is too stubborn and arrogant to change anything. When was the last real innovation or changes we saw on our defense.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Why would it matter if LeBeau was watching? He is too stubborn and arrogant to change anything. When was the last real innovation or changes we saw on our defense.

Ummm...I dunno...he's called zone coverages with large cushions for years and years, and this season, we saw a bunch of press man coverage instead??? Does that count as a change???

[Shoe]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Why would it matter if LeBeau was watching? He is too stubborn and arrogant to change anything. When was the last real innovation or changes we saw on our defense.

Ummm...I dunno...he's called zone coverages with large cushions for years and years, and this season, we saw a bunch of press man coverage instead??? Does that count as a change???

Exactly...

Our traditional defensive scheme, the scheme that we've played for 15-20 years now, is the basic blueprint to beating that team. Allow nothing deep, and look to confuse young and untalented (throwing-wise) QBs. It's why LeBeau is undefeated vs. rookie QBs, etc. So it is absolutely dumbfounding that we went to the scheme we went to. At worst, all we had to do is let them run on us between the 20's, and stop their drive inside the 20s where everything is compacted.

[Captain Lemming]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Why would it matter if LeBeau was watching? He is too stubborn and arrogant to change anything. When was the last real innovation or changes we saw on our defense.

Ummm...I dunno...he's called zone coverages with large cushions for years and years, and this season, we saw a bunch of press man coverage instead??? Does that count as a change???

Dude, we don't need knowledgeable commentary like this. Just spew out generalities.

Truth is that DLs biggest mistake was that he overcompensated for Tebows running and our D looked like something entirely different.

[Dresden]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Dude,...are failing against Denver defensively was a product of not having Hampton, Keisel, Aaron, Woodley on the field with Potsie playing lights out as if he were still in his twenties.

And when you add the same old B.S cornerback play along with a guy like Mundy playing F/S to that equation,....we were finished before the Game even began.

Many try to bash Coach Lebeau,....but from where i stand our problems defensively are a matter of personnel, personnel, personnel,....the lack thereof.

[Shoe]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Dude,...are failing against Denver defensively was a product of not having Hampton, Keisel, Aaron, Woodley on the field with Potsie playing lights out as if he were still in his twenties.

And when you add the same old B.S cornerback play along with a guy like Mundy playing F/S to that equation,....we were finished before the Game even began.

Many try to bash Coach Lebeau,....but from where i stand our problems defensively are a matter of personnel, personnel, personnel,....the lack thereof.

So Dresden,
What would have been the more optimal gameplan/adjustment, given the circumstance as you correctly outline? (I'm not trying to be leading here, I'm just asking the question.)

Would it be to put eight in the box, and lock up your "shutdown corner" onto a talented yet unproven WR, and hope he shuts him down? Or was the better gameplan, to accept that the Broncos would be able to move the ball running on you (with all the injuries), and trust that your defense would stiffen up &/or sufficiently confuse the inexperienced Tebow, where the room to operate shrinks (in the redzone).

In hindsight, it was a legitimate gamplan to do the former, trusting that Ike could handle that kid. But when it became apparent that he couldn't... shouldn't the plan have been adjusted? Because despite all the talk, all the blame, etc... If Ike Taylor does his job, Steelers win.

[feltdizz]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Dude,...are failing against Denver defensively was a product of not having Hampton, Keisel, Aaron, Woodley on the field with Potsie playing lights out as if he were still in his twenties.

And when you add the same old B.S cornerback play along with a guy like Mundy playing F/S to that equation,....we were finished before the Game even began.

Many try to bash Coach Lebeau,....but from where i stand our problems defensively are a matter of personnel, personnel, personnel,....the lack thereof.

So Dresden,
What would have been the more optimal gameplan/adjustment, given the circumstance as you correctly outline? (I'm not trying to be leading here, I'm just asking the question.)

Would it be to put eight in the box, and lock up your "shutdown corner" onto a talented yet unproven WR, and hope he shuts him down? Or was the better gameplan, to accept that the Broncos would be able to move the ball running on you (with all the injuries), and trust that your defense would stiffen up &/or sufficiently confuse the inexperienced Tebow, where the room to operate shrinks (in the redzone).

In hindsight, it was a legitimate gamplan to do the former, trusting that Ike could handle that kid. But when it became apparent that he couldn't... shouldn't the plan have been adjusted? Because despite all the talk, all the blame, etc... If Ike Taylor does his job, Steelers win.

I don't think it made any sense to sell out on the run on the first play of OT.

[phillyesq]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Why would it matter if LeBeau was watching? He is too stubborn and arrogant to change anything. When was the last real innovation or changes we saw on our defense.

Ummm...I dunno...he's called zone coverages with large cushions for years and years, and this season, we saw a bunch of press man coverage instead??? Does that count as a change???

Shame on you, Ruthless, letting facts get in the way of a good argument.

[Dresden]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Dude,...are failing against Denver defensively was a product of not having Hampton, Keisel, Aaron, Woodley on the field with Potsie playing lights out as if he were still in his twenties.

And when you add the same old B.S cornerback play along with a guy like Mundy playing F/S to that equation,....we were finished before the Game even began.

Many try to bash Coach Lebeau,....but from where i stand our problems defensively are a matter of personnel, personnel, personnel,....the lack thereof.

So Dresden,
What would have been the more optimal gameplan/adjustment, given the circumstance as you correctly outline? (I'm not trying to be leading here, I'm just asking the question.)

Would it be to put eight in the box, and lock up your "shutdown corner" onto a talented yet unproven WR, and hope he shuts him down? Or was the better gameplan, to accept that the Broncos would be able to move the ball running on you (with all the injuries), and trust that your defense would stiffen up &/or sufficiently confuse the inexperienced Tebow, where the room to operate shrinks (in the redzone).

In hindsight, it was a legitimate gamplan to do the former, trusting that Ike could handle that kid. But when it became apparent that he couldn't... shouldn't the plan have been adjusted? Because despite all the talk, all the blame, etc... If Ike Taylor does his job, Steelers win.

You are in fact correct sir,..and i most certainly agree that it was indeed a legitimate gameplan given the circumstances.

Again, for me though it comes down us wanting Coach Lebeau to prepare a five star gourmet meal with nothing but Spam and canned goods in a galley sized kitchen.

With Coach Cowher's players getting old and falling apart,...we just no longer have the same capability to dominate teams with our front seven.

And our system is so designed for the front seven to protect bum Corners like Chard Scott, De lame washington, William Gay, Mcfadden,....and even Ike. (whom to me has never been elite,...just the best of the inferior corners we seem to be absolutely comfortable with putting on the field year in and year out)

Bottom line,... if anyone were to attempt to run a 3-4 defense without a stud NT, with an end with an average 4-3 DT skill set whom gets pushed around by single blockers, (Hood) no pass rush whatsoever from stud bookend olb's, no stud ILB and 4-3 pursuit linebacker whom is rendered useless if anyone puts their hands on him, (Timmons) along with average to below average corners,......you are in considerable trouble sir.

[Dee Dub]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

Exactly...

Our traditional defensive scheme, the scheme that we've played for 15-20 years now, is the basic blueprint to beating that team. Allow nothing deep, and look to confuse young and untalented (throwing-wise) QBs. It's why LeBeau is undefeated vs. rookie QBs, etc. So it is absolutely dumbfounding that we went to the scheme we went to. At worst, all we had to do is let them run on us between the 20's, and stop their drive inside the 20s where everything is compacted.

Yep!! Agreed. LeBeau chose to do the exact opposite versus the Broncos. He actually was conceding the deep pass pretty much the whole game. And at the most critical time (OT), he chose to go cover 0 and had no one deep. And he got burned and put an end to the Steelers season.

One can defend LeBeau all they want. Pull out his legend card all they want. Bask in his past greatest all they want. But this has to go down as one of the worst defensive game plans ever.

[Steelers>NFL]

Re: Are You Watching, LeBeau?

ah, get over it people. Even if the Steelers had beaten the Donkeys, they were not going very far. They were definately were not going to the SB.