#1 Pass Defense was a huge mirage

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  • NJ-STEELER
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 12563

    #16
    Re: #1 Pass Defense was a huge mirage

    the true #1 defense is playing today. the difference in the way the secondaries play the ball is night and day

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    • steelz09
      Administrator
      • Jan 2008
      • 4675

      #17
      Re: #1 Pass Defense was a huge mirage

      Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
      the true #1 defense is playing today. the difference in the way the secondaries play the ball is night and day
      Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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      • DrCalculus
        Backup
        • Aug 2008
        • 141

        #18
        Re: #1 Pass Defense was a huge mirage

        Originally posted by Steelerphile

        When the Steelers played Flacco, Smith and Schaub they are called bad QBs but you elevate your opinion of them when they play other teams. I still don't think the Steelers defensive ranking is HUGE mirage. I am not convinced by this. Your evaluation of QBs as top caliber, in various circumstances, is somewhat arbitrary and arguable.
        In what way did I ever say that Schaub, Smith, and Flacco were bad when I listed them among the Steelers opponents. I just didn't consider them "elite". That doesn't equate to bad. Go back and read my original post:

        "ONE game vs an Elite QB (Brady), THREE against decent QBS (Flacco in Baltimore, Schaub, & Smith), and 12 games against scrubs, back-ups, wash-ups, and rookies."

        = 4 games against good QBs, and 12 games against crappy QBs

        (OK, so I didn't call them "very good" -- but I definitely did not say they were "bad"...doesn't decent mean good? Merriam-Webster defines decent variously as: appropriate, fairly good --- as in "a decent starting QB, someone who actually is worthy of the job"...as opposed to, say, Tyler Palko or Curtis Painter)

        And I used similar language to describe Flacco, Smith, and Schaub in listing the opposing QBs for Cleveland, Baltimore, Houston, NYJ, & St Louis:

        "They faced Ben (2), Flacco (2), Smith, Schaub, Bradford -- 7 games against what I would consider high-level QBs."

        "6 maybe 7 games against very good QBs."

        "That's 11 games against good QB play."


        You're splitting hairs in my choice of adjectives. I clearly indicated Brady as elite, but said that Schaub, Smith, and Flacco counted among the good QBs that the Steelers faced. I mentioned that their OTHER 12 opponents were " scrubs, back-ups, wash-ups, and rookies". I similarly listed those three guys among the good QBs other teams with top pass defense rankings played against. How is that arbitrary? It is entirely consistent.

        Read what I wrote, not what you think you remember I wrote.

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