A deep look at Mike Tomlin's first 5 years

[grotonsteel]

Re: A deep look at Mike Tomlin's first 5 years

2008

Draft Picks: Rashard Mendenhall, Limas Sweed, Bruce Davis, Tony Hills, Dennis Dixon, Mike Humpal, Ryan Mundy, Thomas McAllister

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MAN, that was a SH!T draft.

And it is hurting Steelers now.

Chain Reaction: If Bruce Davis would have been NFL Player...Steelers would have drafted Sean Lee instead of Jason W. If Limas Sweed could catch the ball ..Steelers would not need a big tall WR. If tony Hill would have been serviceable steelers would not be struggling with O-line.

[Oviedo]

Re: A deep look at Mike Tomlin's first 5 years

2008

Draft Picks: Rashard Mendenhall, Limas Sweed, Bruce Davis, Tony Hills, Dennis Dixon, Mike Humpal, Ryan Mundy, Thomas McAllister

.

MAN, that was a SH!T draft.

And it is hurting Steelers now.

Chain Reaction: If Bruce Davis would have been NFL Player...Steelers would have drafted Sean Lee instead of Jason W. If Limas Sweed could catch the ball ..Steelers would not need a big tall WR. If tony Hill would have been serviceable steelers would not be struggling with O-line.

Davis was a bust, but that is the high risk we deal with playing a 3-4 defense where we speculate on converting college DEs from their natural positions to something completely new. This is a league wide issue, remember Vernon Gholston????

Hills was always a reach coming off a injury. They definitely rolled the dice on him.

I still say Sweed was a good pick. Can't fault the front office for a guy having mental issue combined with injury issues. They can't measure someone's mental health and by all indications coming out of college he was never an issue.

[Oviedo]

Re: A deep look at Mike Tomlin's first 5 years

Dumbest article ever!
Cowher have never had 3 twelve win seasons out of 4.
It took Cower 15 years to win one without choking, what make you think that he could win 2 in for 4.
The lame argument is that Cowher players was used, but other than Ben name some that had a bigger impact than the players Tomlin brought in. Wood, Timmons, Moore, Jh who a year early wasn't even good enough to start for Cowher. Lame

If you evaluated Cower the same way at the end of the nineties you woulkd ask why the heck he was ever a coach and he would never had won a single Super Bowl.

Total BS hatchet job by someone who obviously doesn't like Tomlin.

[Steelhere10]

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I agree, not to mention that Cowher took some of Noll players and had success. Woodson anyone.

[aggiebones]

Re: A deep look at Mike Tomlin's first 5 years

Draft Picks: Rashard Mendenhall, Limas Sweed, Bruce Davis, Tony Hills, Dennis Dixon, Mike Humpal, Ryan Mundy, Thomas McAllister

haha, that was some sheety draft that gets worse with age. I remember everyone excited after that draft. Mendy fell down to us and there was good old Sweed totally slips to us in second.

Gotta say, I always knew Sweed was a dude. He was tall and pretty fast but never tested in college due to absolute fear VY struck into the heart of all college DCs. Sweed was always wide open regardless of this sloppy routes and hands of stone. It actually was a bad pick considering all 31 other teams figured it out and the Steelers didn't.

Can't say I saw Bruce Davis collapse though I suspect Hills of being soft and thinish for T. I thought he might be athletic enough to be a backup at least, which I guess he was for awhile.
And there's Mundy. Lingers on squad long enough to cost us playoff game. lol lovely


Thomas McAllister may have been the best pick of the bunch. Never heard of him. haha

[Chadman]

Re: A deep look at Mike Tomlin's first 5 years

That's odd...when Chadman read the article the first time, he didn't pick up on the anti-Tomlin slant.

Thought there was a lot of decent research put into the article, to be honest.

Not everyone will agree on opinion pieces, but it is somewhat true that Tomlin took over a team that Cowher had pieced together quite nicely. That isn't Tomlin's fault, or a knock on Tomlin. More of a 'props to Cowher' type thing. Still, there are plenty of talented football teams that don't win Super Bowls- Philadelphia 2011 anyone? So Tomlin's accomplishment, even if it was started by Cowher, cannot be taken from him.

Interesting to read about his season- to- season turnarounds in regards to winning, or more importantly, not losing like he had the season before. And how he rarely loses back-to-back games.

If anything, Chadman found the article somewhat supportive of Tomlin, if not overly supportive.

One thing that rarely gets mentioned in relation to drafted players to roster members conversations go- the Steelers roster has been set & solid for a number of years. This is a tough group to break into & get a start on. So the fact that middle to late round draft picks 'fail' to stick is not that surprising really.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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I agree, not to mention that Cowher took some of Noll players and had success. Woodson anyone.

Not to mention Dermontti Dawson, Greg Lloyd, Carnell Lake, Barry Foster, etc.

[snarky]

Re: A deep look at Mike Tomlin's first 5 years

I agree, not to mention that Cowher took some of Noll players and had success. Woodson anyone.

Not to mention Dermontti Dawson, Greg Lloyd, Carnell Lake, Barry Foster, etc.

Neil O'Donnell, too. Love him or hate him, he was part of Cowher's early success.

[Sword]

Re: A deep look at Mike Tomlin's first 5 years

I agree, that Tomlin did inherit good team but, you cannot give credit to winning a SB to a past coach....Tomlin gets credit for the SB..period.

Like I said, before in another post,
Tomlin appears to lack motivational skills to the players.
Adjustments to the team during a game, execution of plays.
stubborn on plays that don't work....


......oh get some great OL players

Sword