Wallace

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: Wallace

this is one of the reason i keep saying our wideouts are not near the top units in the league.

have the potential to be the best we've seen since ben's been here, but its these little things they need to improve on.

and being dragged down by the back of your jersey isnt something a top 10 wideout in the league should happen to

[jj28west]

Re: Wallace

Gents,

Maybe I am drinking the cool aid a bit but while we cant be an all world contender every year we can still appreciate the fact that Brown & Wallace can score on every given play and are fun to watch.

The WR weapons on offense remind me of the 90's with Thigpen, Mills, Johnson, Hastings, & Slash which are fun to watch.

[skyhawk]

Re: Wallace

Gents,

Maybe I am drinking the cool aid a bit but while we cant be an all world contender every year we can still appreciate the fact that Brown & Wallace can score on every given play and are fun to watch.

The WR weapons on offense remind me of the 90's with Thigpen, Mills, Johnson, Hastings, & Slash which are fun to watch.

Those days WERE exciting! But it was NOD who made those guys!

[pittpete]

Re: Wallace

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[Chavezz]

Re: Wallace

I was going to make this same thread.

This is something I've noticed happening for the last 2 years. He doesn't seem to sell out to make the catch. He's almost looking for a perfect ball every time.

Sometime you gotta go make the play on a ball. Attack it! Not every ball is a floater over the left shoulder.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Wallace

Where's Wallace?

Friday, December 23, 2011
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


What's happened to Mike Wallace?

The receiver who publicly set his 2011 goal as an NFL-record 2,000 yards, started quickly as if he were intent on reaching it. He began the season with three 100-yard games in a row and 377 total yards.

He had 730 yards in the first seven games, not one of them under 76 yards. In his past seven games, he has 370 yards, no more than 70 in any one game and including games of 17 and 38 yards.

He led the AFC in yards per catch each of his first two seasons -- 19.4 as a rookie and 21.0 last season. He was at 20.2 after seven games but is down to 16.4 because he has averaged only 11.9 yards per catch the past seven games.

Arians blamed dropped passes by Wallace and bad throws by the quarterback for his low output the past seven games.

"He's open. We've dropped some and we've missed him, every game. There's a 50-yard play in every game that we could have made that we made early in the season. We've missed those chunks; either they have gone off our fingertips or we've overthrown him.

"We had him wide open the other night to take the lead. That's one of the throws the foot actually worked on, and he overthrew him. But just keep throwing it deep, we'll hit him."

Where once Wallace seemed a cinch to break Yancey Thigpen's team record of 1,398 yards set in 1997, now that seems out of reach because he would need 299 yards in his final two games to do so.

Antonio Brown has picked up the slack. Since he got his first 100-yard game Oct. 23 in Arizona, Brown has been the most productive receiver. He has 722 yards in the past eight games on 42 receptions.

Brown's average is the same as Wallace's, 16.4 per catch. With 984 yards on 60 receptions, he has an outside chance to pass Wallace -- 67 catches, 1,100 yards -- to finish as the team leader.

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[Chadman]

Re: Wallace

Not every footballer is 'complete'.


Wallace is the spped guy. Time & maturity will lead to him being a better footballer, but for now- are we REALLY complaining about a guy that has topped 1000 recieving yards this early into the season?

He's the big play threat- not the go-to guy. That guy is fast becoming Antonio Brown. He's the clutch guy, the guy you bank on. He's the new generation Hines Ward.

Sanders is getting some negative reports from you guys because of injuries. For Chadman, he looks a great compliment WR. Cotchery is money with the ball in the air.

Hines can still produce.

The TE's are interesting- Heath is obviously top echelon, but Saunders could easily become a big threat around the RZ.

It's entirely possible that as fans, we expect too much from this group. It's not necessarily about how complete the 'individual' is, but how complete the 'group' is.

For Chadman, this group is pretty much rounded out to complete.

[Chavezz]

Re: Wallace

Not every footballer is 'complete'.


Wallace is the spped guy. Time & maturity will lead to him being a better footballer, but for now- are we REALLY complaining about a guy that has topped 1000 recieving yards this early into the season?

He's the big play threat- not the go-to guy. That guy is fast becoming Antonio Brown. He's the clutch guy, the guy you bank on. He's the new generation Hines Ward.

Sanders is getting some negative reports from you guys because of injuries. For Chadman, he looks a great compliment WR. Cotchery is money with the ball in the air.

Hines can still produce.

The TE's are interesting- Heath is obviously top echelon, but Saunders could easily become a big threat around the RZ.

It's entirely possible that as fans, we expect too much from this group. It's not necessarily about how complete the 'individual' is, but how complete the 'group' is.

For Chadman, this group is pretty much rounded out to complete.

I agree with most everything you've said, except for one thing. If a player ever appears to not give 100% he's going to get slammed by fans. Especially a Steelers player. Wallace doesn't appear to always be giving 100% and that's just not acceptable.

I'm not asking this guy to be an Andre or Calvin Johnson when the balls in the air. He's never going to be that type of guy and that's ok. But he can be a Steve Smith who FIGHTS for the ball when it's in traffic, he can be a guy who attempts to come back for the ball when it's underthrown. Hell, Ced Wilson was good at coming back for those catches.

The other thing working against Wallace is that he's following Ward. Ward was a guy that killed himself for years doing these kind of things. We as fans now will hold every WR that wears the black and gold to that "Ward" standard. You lay it on the line for EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY.

Anything less may be ok for other teams, but not this one. I don't want Randy Moss dragging ass across my field.

[feltdizz]

Re: Wallace

I don't think anyone is calling on Wallace to be Swann, Stallworth, Lipps and Rice rolled into one.

A WR has a responsibility to help the QB out when the pass isn't on point.

[pittpete]

Re: Wallace

but for now- are we REALLY complaining about a guy that has topped 1000 recieving yards this early into the season?

Think its more like where has he been recently because he just hasnt produced.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Wallace

Ed: Tale of 2 Half-Seasons for Mike Wallace

WRITTEN BY ED BOUCHETTE


What's happened to Mike Wallace?

The receiver who publicly set his 2011 goal as an NFL-record 2,000 yards, started the season as if he were intent on reaching it. He began the season with three straight 100-yard games and 377 total yards.

He had 730 yards in the first seven games, not one of them under 76 yards. In his past seven games, he has 370 yards, no more than 70 in any one game and including games of 17 and 38 yards.

He led the AFC in yards per catch in each of his first two seasons -- 19.4 as a rookie and 21.0 last season. He was at 20.2 after seven games but is now down to 16.4 because he's averaged only 11.9 yards per catch the past seven games.

Where once he seemed a cinch to break Yancey Thigpen's team record of 1,398 yards set in 1997, now that seems out of reach because he would need 299 yards in his final two games to do so.

Antonio Brown has picked up the slack. Since he got his first 100-yard game in Arizona Oct. 23, Brown has been the most productive receiver. He has 722 yards in the past eight games on 42 receptions.

Brown's average is the same as Wallace's, 16.4 per catch. With 984 yards on 60 receptions, he has an outside chance to pass Wallace -- 67 catches, 1,100 yards -- to finish as the team leader.

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[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Wallace

Ed: Tale of 2 Half-Seasons for Mike Wallace

WRITTEN BY ED BOUCHETTE


What's happened to Mike Wallace?

The receiver who publicly set his 2011 goal as an NFL-record 2,000 yards, started the season as if he were intent on reaching it. He began the season with three straight 100-yard games and 377 total yards.

He had 730 yards in the first seven games, not one of them under 76 yards. In his past seven games, he has 370 yards, no more than 70 in any one game and including games of 17 and 38 yards.

He led the AFC in yards per catch in each of his first two seasons -- 19.4 as a rookie and 21.0 last season. He was at 20.2 after seven games but is now down to 16.4 because he's averaged only 11.9 yards per catch the past seven games.

Where once he seemed a cinch to break Yancey Thigpen's team record of 1,398 yards set in 1997, now that seems out of reach because he would need 299 yards in his final two games to do so.

Antonio Brown has picked up the slack. Since he got his first 100-yard game in Arizona Oct. 23, Brown has been the most productive receiver. He has 722 yards in the past eight games on 42 receptions.

Brown's average is the same as Wallace's, 16.4 per catch. With 984 yards on 60 receptions, he has an outside chance to pass Wallace -- 67 catches, 1,100 yards -- to finish as the team leader.

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Woodley has been crucified on this board for disappearing for half a season and being All-World for the other half of the season. Why does Wallace not get the same treatment?

[fezziwig]

Re: Wallace

glad you guys mentioned this because i too believe wallace is kind of an up and down guy when it comes to having good hands or ball protection.

i hope he isn't using or near sweeds old locker

[rpmpit]

Re: Wallace

Ed: Tale of 2 Half-Seasons for Mike Wallace

WRITTEN BY ED BOUCHETTE


What's happened to Mike Wallace?

The receiver who publicly set his 2011 goal as an NFL-record 2,000 yards, started the season as if he were intent on reaching it. He began the season with three straight 100-yard games and 377 total yards.

He had 730 yards in the first seven games, not one of them under 76 yards. In his past seven games, he has 370 yards, no more than 70 in any one game and including games of 17 and 38 yards.

He led the AFC in yards per catch in each of his first two seasons -- 19.4 as a rookie and 21.0 last season. He was at 20.2 after seven games but is now down to 16.4 because he's averaged only 11.9 yards per catch the past seven games.

Where once he seemed a cinch to break Yancey Thigpen's team record of 1,398 yards set in 1997, now that seems out of reach because he would need 299 yards in his final two games to do so.

Antonio Brown has picked up the slack. Since he got his first 100-yard game in Arizona Oct. 23, Brown has been the most productive receiver. He has 722 yards in the past eight games on 42 receptions.

Brown's average is the same as Wallace's, 16.4 per catch. With 984 yards on 60 receptions, he has an outside chance to pass Wallace -- 67 catches, 1,100 yards -- to finish as the team leader.

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Woodley has been crucified on this board for disappearing for half a season and being All-World for the other half of the season. Why does Wallace not get the same treatment?

Good point, rb. I'd say two reasons. One, a wr's play is directly affected by the qb's play. When a wr disappears, its very easy to just blame the qb (or in our case, the qb and the oc). And two, Antonio Brown. AB stepping up has made it easier to forget about MW - at least a little. With Harrison being out with injury and suspension, we've been looking at Woodley as "the guy" to get us sacks or at least pressure. When he doesn't deliver, there hasn't been anyone else to pick up the slack like Brown has done on offense. So his disappearance is amplified.