NFL ready to hand Suh, Harrison substantial suspensions

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: NFL ready to hand Suh, Harrison substantial suspensions

The challenge for these owners is that players are getting bigger and faster and their ability to deliver crushing hits has grown substantially. I truly believe that many owners in the NFL are concerned about what will happen to the popularity of football if another player is paralyzed on national TV or even killed. There have been two guys that came very closing to dying on the field in the last 10 or so years. I know it has happened before that, but football now has a broader appeal and from a strictly corporate perspective, the NFL will want to protect its market share.

Additionally, I believe these owners are fearful that as more information comes out about the effects of concussions and repetitive low-grade head impacts the number of kids participating in football will start to decrease. It is probably only a matter of time before somebody files suit against a community center or school claiming damages for the injuries they sustained playing football. What happens after that? How much will it cost to insure these institutions? And if they cannot continue to offer the sport, where will the college and pro players come from?

I wrote this in another thread:

"The NFL doesn't really care about player safety. There are better helmets out there if they wanted to use them. If the NFL really cared about player safety, they would have suspended Shurmur and/or other responsible members of his staff for letting McCoy go back in without proper evaluation. Why is it a crime to hit some players H2H, but not other players? Why is Richard Seymour allowed to go on punching players after the whistle blows (3 time in the past two years, by my count)?

Player safety my ar$$e."

[Dee Dub]

Re: NFL ready to hand Suh, Harrison substantial suspensions

"He could have hit him anywhere else but the head and probably have been fine," the source said.

[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82506c63/article/nfl-ready-to-hand-suh-harrison-substantial-suspensions"]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... uspensions[/url]

Hmmmm. So what about when he was fined for hitting Drew Brees in the back and Ryan Fitzpatrick in the chest ? You sure about that "source" ?

I dont understand why some of you are not getting this? No offense here but some of you need to read the rule about hitting a QB. I hate the fact that this is happening. I am old school and think the changing of these rules are killing the game of football. But the fact of the matter is these are the rules. You cannot hit a QB anywhere if he is in the act of throwing or has just finished throwing. Clean hits do not exist anymore when it comes to a QB in the act of throwing. Here is the rule. He is now considered a defenseless player.

No defensive player may run into a passer of a legal forward pass after the ball has left his hand (15 yards). The Referee must determine whether opponent had a reasonable chance to stop his momentum during an attempt to block the pass or tackle the passer while he still had the ball.

[url="http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/protectionofpasser"]http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/protectionofpasser[/url]

[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8"]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8[/url] ... der-review

Rules defining a defenseless player will be expanded and now will include eight categories:

» A quarterback in the act of throwing;

» A receiver trying to catch a pass;

» A runner already in the grasp of tacklers and having his forward progress stopped;

» A player fielding a punt or a kickoff;

» A kicker or punter during the kick;

» A quarterback at any time after change of possession;

» A receiver who receives a blind-side block;

» A player already on the ground.

There is no such thing as a clean hit on a kicker or a punter in the act of kicking. The same can now be said of the QB.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: NFL ready to hand Suh, Harrison substantial suspensions

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... uspensions[/url]

Hmmmm. So what about when he was fined for hitting Drew Brees in the back and Ryan Fitzpatrick in the chest ? You sure about that "source" ?

I dont understand why some of you are not getting this? No offense here but some of you need to read the rule about hitting a QB. I hate the fact that this is happening. I am old school and think the changing of these rules are killing the game of football. But the fact of the matter is these are the rules. You cannot hit a QB anywhere if he is in the act of throwing or has just finished throwing. Clean hits do not exist anymore when it comes to a QB in the act of throwing. Here is the rule. He is now considered a defenseless player.

No defensive player may run into a passer of a legal forward pass after the ball has left his hand (15 yards). The Referee must determine whether opponent had a reasonable chance to stop his momentum during an attempt to block the pass or tackle the passer while he still had the ball.

[url="http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/protectionofpasser"]http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/protectionofpasser[/url]

[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8"]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8[/url] ... der-review

Rules defining a defenseless player will be expanded and now will include eight categories:

» A quarterback in the act of throwing;

» A receiver trying to catch a pass;

» A runner already in the grasp of tacklers and having his forward progress stopped;

» A player fielding a punt or a kickoff;

» A kicker or punter during the kick;

» A quarterback at any time after change of possession;

» A receiver who receives a blind-side block;

» A player already on the ground.

There is no such thing as a clean hit on a kicker or a punter in the act of kicking. The same can now be said of the QB.[/quote:4840ihyg]

(b) Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:

(1) Forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him; and

(2) Lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead/”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player’s body.

[sentinel33]

Re: NFL ready to hand Suh, Harrison substantial suspensions

It really makes no sense to even rush the passer any more.

The league is getting what they want- a pass-oriented game.

The days of the pass rush specialists are numbered.
Elements of the game as we have known it will begin to be phased out.
DB's and WR's will be a premium in the near future. So will LB's with range/coverage skills.
The big uglys in the trenches will just be space eating run stoppers.
The pass rushing DE player becomes obsolete.

You simply can't touch the QB anymore.

Games changing, fellas.

Adapt to it.

Sucks, but it's the truth.

[Leper Friend]

Re: NFL ready to hand Suh, Harrison substantial suspensions

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... uspensions[/url]

Hmmmm. So what about when he was fined for hitting Drew Brees in the back and Ryan Fitzpatrick in the chest ? You sure about that "source" ?

I dont understand why some of you are not getting this? No offense here but some of you need to read the rule about hitting a QB. I hate the fact that this is happening. I am old school and think the changing of these rules are killing the game of football. But the fact of the matter is these are the rules. You cannot hit a QB anywhere if he is in the act of throwing or has just finished throwing. Clean hits do not exist anymore when it comes to a QB in the act of throwing. Here is the rule. He is now considered a defenseless player.

No defensive player may run into a passer of a legal forward pass after the ball has left his hand (15 yards). The Referee must determine whether opponent had a reasonable chance to stop his momentum during an attempt to block the pass or tackle the passer while he still had the ball.

[url="http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/protectionofpasser"]http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/protectionofpasser[/url]

[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8"]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8[/url] ... der-review

Rules defining a defenseless player will be expanded and now will include eight categories:

» A quarterback in the act of throwing;

» A receiver trying to catch a pass;

» A runner already in the grasp of tacklers and having his forward progress stopped;

» A player fielding a punt or a kickoff;

» A kicker or punter during the kick;

» A quarterback at any time after change of possession;

» A receiver who receives a blind-side block;

» A player already on the ground.

There is no such thing as a clean hit on a kicker or a punter in the act of kicking. The same can now be said of the QB.[/quote:2g7ll56e]
How do you read that and assume I "don't get it " ? You just posted rules that agree with me that the "source" is inacurate.

[DukieBoy]

Re: NFL ready to hand Suh, Harrison substantial suspensions

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... uspensions[/url]

Hmmmm. So what about when he was fined for hitting Drew Brees in the back and Ryan Fitzpatrick in the chest ? You sure about that "source" ?

I dont understand why some of you are not getting this? No offense here but some of you need to read the rule about hitting a QB. I hate the fact that this is happening. I am old school and think the changing of these rules are killing the game of football. But the fact of the matter is these are the rules. You cannot hit a QB anywhere if he is in the act of throwing or has just finished throwing. Clean hits do not exist anymore when it comes to a QB in the act of throwing. Here is the rule. He is now considered a defenseless player.

No defensive player may run into a passer of a legal forward pass after the ball has left his hand (15 yards). The Referee must determine whether opponent had a reasonable chance to stop his momentum during an attempt to block the pass or tackle the passer while he still had the ball.

[url="http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/protectionofpasser"]http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/protectionofpasser[/url]

[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8"]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8[/url] ... der-review

Rules defining a defenseless player will be expanded and now will include eight categories:

» A quarterback in the act of throwing;

» A receiver trying to catch a pass;

» A runner already in the grasp of tacklers and having his forward progress stopped;

» A player fielding a punt or a kickoff;

» A kicker or punter during the kick;

» A quarterback at any time after change of possession;

» A receiver who receives a blind-side block;

» A player already on the ground.

There is no such thing as a clean hit on a kicker or a punter in the act of kicking. The same can now be said of the QB.

(b) Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:

(1) Forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him; and

(2) Lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead/”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player’s body.[/quote:1z228bm5]

You mean, like Ray Killer Lewis did to Hines Ward ???

[pfelix73]

Re: NFL ready to hand Suh, Harrison substantial suspensions

If I was Harrison, I'd just retire if this freaking league goes down that road...I wouldn't want any parts of it...F' em.