Were Mike and Mike really considering Green Bay best ever?

[Shoe]

Re: Were Mike and Mike really considering Green Bay best eve

If they go undefeated and win the Super Bowl, they should be considered one of the (if not the) best team ever.

We cry about stats not meaning anything as long as you win games, when we're defending the Steelers. Now that we're talking about another team, we argue that wins mean nothing because their defense blows.

Not saying I think they'll go undefeated. I don't. I'd love to get them back in the Super Bowl and get some revenge...as well as #7. But if they do win it all and not lose a game, how could you not consider them great??

I disagree with that. But I'm sure my opinion won't prevail, and they would be considered the best OAT if they were to pull it off. As someone else said earlier, I think it's as big an indictment on the "pansification" of the league than anything else--when a team with the 30th-ranked defense can not only excel, but go undefeated for a season and a half.

I would hope, that the league would then take this as a wake-up (i.e. the Mel Blount rule), and work to de-emphasize offensive football. It shows a tremendous flaw in the game AFAIC, when a team with that level of imbalance can dominate to that degree.

[WindyCitySteel]

Re: Were Mike and Mike really considering Green Bay best eve

If they go undefeated and win the Super Bowl, they should be considered one of the (if not the) best team ever.

We cry about stats not meaning anything as long as you win games, when we're defending the Steelers. Now that we're talking about another team, we argue that wins mean nothing because their defense blows.

Not saying I think they'll go undefeated. I don't. I'd love to get them back in the Super Bowl and get some revenge...as well as #7. But if they do win it all and not lose a game, how could you not consider them great??

I disagree with that. But I'm sure my opinion won't prevail, and they would be considered the best OAT if they were to pull it off. As someone else said earlier, I think it's as big an indictment on the "pansification" of the league than anything else--when a team with the 30th-ranked defense can not only excel, but go undefeated for a season and a half.

I would hope, that the league would then take this as a wake-up (i.e. the Mel Blount rule), and work to de-emphasize offensive football. It shows a tremendous flaw in the game AFAIC, when a team with that level of imbalance can dominate to that degree.

This is what they want. Hockey moms and short attention span kids hate defense.

[feltdizz]

Re: Were Mike and Mike really considering Green Bay best eve

If they go undefeated and win the Super Bowl, they should be considered one of the (if not the) best team ever.

We cry about stats not meaning anything as long as you win games, when we're defending the Steelers. Now that we're talking about another team, we argue that wins mean nothing because their defense blows.

Not saying I think they'll go undefeated. I don't. I'd love to get them back in the Super Bowl and get some revenge...as well as #7. But if they do win it all and not lose a game, how could you not consider them great??

I disagree with that. But I'm sure my opinion won't prevail, and they would be considered the best OAT if they were to pull it off. As someone else said earlier, I think it's as big an indictment on the "pansification" of the league than anything else--when a team with the 30th-ranked defense can not only excel, but go undefeated for a season and a half.

I would hope, that the league would then take this as a wake-up (i.e. the Mel Blount rule), and work to de-emphasize offensive football. It shows a tremendous flaw in the game AFAIC, when a team with that level of imbalance can dominate to that degree.

Their D generated 3 TO's vs us in the SB. I don't think their D is that bad... they score in bunches so their D sees the field more often.

How can a team not be considered one of the best if they have a 30th ranked D and are on an 18 game winning streak?

Until someone beats them all we can do is make excuses.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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Hockey moms and short attention span kids hate defense.

I disagree. Soccer moms hate defense. Hockey moms crave blood.

[snarky]

Re: Were Mike and Mike really considering Green Bay best eve

Hockey moms and short attention span kids hate defense.

I disagree. Soccer moms hate defense. Hockey moms crave blood.

NASCAR dads hate right turns.

Potentially relevant anecdote. When I first met my wife and we would watch the Steelers together (or, more accurately, I would watch the Steelers and she would be in the room) there were a few times when the Steelers would make critical first downs and I would clap or yell or whatever. She would ask me "How many points did they get for that?" She truly thought that the only reason one would view a play as successful was because they scored some points.

This was a real 'a-ha' moment for me. Suddenly all these stupid rules that have been put in to turn this into a passing league made sense. Long time fans and people who have played the sport understand that sometimes just making a first down can be huge.

If you get the ball at your five yard line and you move it 30-35 yards and then punt, that can be a huge sequence. But for a casual fan there is little to no excitement in that. So, in order to keep the most fans interested at any one time, the rules have been tweaked to make the games "more exciting". Scroing trends back this up and I'm guessing if you looked at how tightly first downs has correlated with points over the years, you would see that the correlation has loosened (meaning the simple first down has lost some significance).

[Discipline of Steel]

Re: Were Mike and Mike really considering Green Bay best eve

Talking heads will always argue Johnny-Come-Lately as best ever. It's what they do.

Yeah, dont worry. There will be a new best team ever in another year or two.