Ok I am on record..and calling my shot!!

[Dee Dub]

Re: Ok I am on record..and calling my shot!!

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I pretty much agree with your post. As much as I like Glenn, I know DeCastro is the better player and he is the one I would prefer. One thing I dont agree with is I think despite Burficts' less than stellar season ( his whole team was bad this year), I do think he will be an above average player and possible pro bowler in the NFL. Especially if he gets on a defense like the Steelers or Ravens. I'd take Te'o too.

I'm not knocking Burfict "the football skills" at all. He was the guy I wanted. I think he could also have a pro bowl type of career much like Ray Lewis. I still think he is clearly 1st round talent and would love him as a Steeler. I just think his stupid penalties on the field as late will sour many on him and we all know the Steelers and how they look upon it. Just hard to guess what all of it will do to his draft stock.[/quote:kx0gqm91]

JPN, what are your thoughts on a couple of safeties, Markele Martin and Bacarri Rambo?

[steelblood]

Re: Ok I am on record..and calling my shot!!

[quote=Dee Dub][quote=steelblood][quote="Dee Dub":3pjgmhty][quote=steelblood][quote="Dee Dub":3pjgmhty]Ok..I was correct. Cordy Glenn not only more than held his own versus LSU but he was dominate. Unfortunately the rest of the Georgia offense wasnt (especially those asked to catch passes). I am confinced Glenn not only could be a pro bowl guard in the NFL, but I also think he could play tackle in the NFL.

Game side notes: Morris Claiborne is one solid corner. The Honey Badger is a freak. And Bacarri Rambo is my favorite FS in all of college. Oh and sophmore ILB Alex Ogletree of Georgia is one to watch.[/quote]

I will give you that Glenn was the best offensive lineman on the field for Georgia. However, I would not say that he was dominant. They had little success running behind anyone and he was beaten a few times by Mingo and #99 with speed and spin moves. I agree that he'd be a great pro guard. He moves really well for his size and can be dominant in the run game. I think he'd make a good G or RT in our system.

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Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Only once did Glenn get beat and that was by (#99) Sean Montgomery, which resulted in a sack, however, it was a coverage sack recorded all the way on the otherside of the right hash mark. Mingo had no sacks. And he was primarly coming from the opposite side of Glenn. Nearly the whole game Glenn was matched up against Sean Montgomery who had 3 total tackles (one being the coverage sack).

So in 40 pass attempts by Georgia, Glenn gave up one coverage sack. That was the only pressure he allowed all game. And asking a guy to block for 7 seconds that results in a sack all the way on the other side of the field, I think I can live with. This was the LSU Tigers he went up against. The best team in college with probably the best defense in all of college. Cordy Glenn, too me, was dominate.[/quote]

I didn't say that Mingo had a sack. I said he "beat" Glenn. Mingo beat him cleanly for a QB pressure. It was a speed move and Glenn hardly laid a hand on him. Pressures matter. The box score doesn't tell the whole story.

Again, I am agreeing that he is a good prospect. But, I would not say he was dominate in that game. He was good, maybe even very good, against NFL talent.

Finally, there is no need to be so obnoxious. We can have a great time discussing the draft (I respect your football knowledge and opinions) without the chest thumping and "Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!" That is beneath you.[/quote:3pjgmhty]

Steelblood, I didnt mean to insult you or be rude. If I came off that way I apologize. I watched every play of that game and in particular what Glenn did. I am pretty sure that Mingo came from the inside on that play you are referring too. All game long Glenn had Montgomery lined up to the outside of him and he pretty much had him one on one.

I think a LT that keeps his QB clean and allows for his QB to have protection from his blindside against a team like LSU to me is dominate.[/quote:3pjgmhty]

Dee Dub, No problem. We are cool.

I couldn't find the play I was looking for in any highlights montages. But, Mingo did rush from the RDE position in the game on more than one occasion. Check out the video at 31 seconds for an example...[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjT39LXAzrM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjT39LXAzrM[/url]. Glenn didn't just block Montgomery as you suggest.

But, this is splitting hairs. I thought he played well and agree that he would be a nice addition to the team. Early in the game, Glenn looked good on down blocks in the running game too.

This draft will be a good one. Too bad the Browns and Bengals will have 4 picks in front of us.

[StarSpangledSteeler]

Re: Ok I am on record..and calling my shot!!

[quote=Dee Dub]

Ok..I was correct. Cordy Glenn not only more than held his own versus LSU but he was dominate. Unfortunately the rest of the Georgia offense wasnt (especially those asked to catch passes). I am confinced Glenn not only could be a pro bowl guard in the NFL, but I also think he could play tackle in the NFL.

Game side notes: Morris Claiborne is one solid corner. The Honey Badger is a freak. And Bacarri Rambo is my favorite FS in all of college. Oh and sophmore ILB Alex Ogletree of Georgia is one to watch.

I will give you that Glenn was the best offensive lineman on the field for Georgia. However, I would not say that he was dominant. They had little success running behind anyone and he was beaten a few times by Mingo and #99 with speed and spin moves. I agree that he'd be a great pro guard. He moves really well for his size and can be dominant in the run game. I think he'd make a good G or RT in our system.

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! Only once did Glenn get beat and that was by (#99) Sean Montgomery, which resulted in a sack, however, it was a coverage sack recorded all the way on the otherside of the right hash mark. Mingo had no sacks. And he was primarly coming from the opposite side of Glenn. Nearly the whole game Glenn was matched up against Sean Montgomery who had 3 total tackles (one being the coverage sack).

So in 40 pass attempts by Georgia, Glenn gave up one coverage sack. That was the only pressure he allowed all game. And asking a guy to block for 7 seconds that results in a sack all the way on the other side of the field, I think I can live with. This was the LSU Tigers he went up against. The best team in college with probably the best defense in all of college. Cordy Glenn, too me, was dominate.[/quote:4qc9qxdi]

I have to agree with Steelblood on this one. I think Glenn played well but not dominate. I think his hands are active but he doesn't appear to "latch on" which is what you need in the NFL. His footwork is just "okay" to me. His balance is just "okay" to me. But he has great size. The DE's he was facing in the LSU game are not elite pass rushers. He would face much stronger faster DE's in the NFL. I actually think right guard will be his best position in the NFL. If I were the Steelers I would take him in the second round but not the first.

[Dee Dub]

Re: Ok I am on record..and calling my shot!!

Dee Dub, No problem. We are cool.

I couldn't find the play I was looking for in any highlights montages. But, Mingo did rush from the RDE position in the game on more than one occasion. Check out the video at 31 seconds for an example...[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjT39LXAzrM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjT39LXAzrM[/url]. Glenn didn't just block Montgomery as you suggest.

But, this is splitting hairs. I thought he played well and agree that he would be a nice addition to the team. Early in the game, Glenn looked good on down blocks in the running game too.

This draft will be a good one. Too bad the Browns and Bengals will have 4 picks in front of us.

Ok steelblood, maybe I should have clarified myself a little more. On every pass rush, Glenn had Montgomery one on one. This play you allude to at 31 seconds into the youtube is a run play. Looks as if it is an inside trap and Glenn, being the LT has sealed off his outside defender (Mingo).

[steelblood]

Re: Ok I am on record..and calling my shot!!

Dee Dub, No problem. We are cool.

I couldn't find the play I was looking for in any highlights montages. But, Mingo did rush from the RDE position in the game on more than one occasion. Check out the video at 31 seconds for an example...[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjT39LXAzrM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjT39LXAzrM[/url]. Glenn didn't just block Montgomery as you suggest.

But, this is splitting hairs. I thought he played well and agree that he would be a nice addition to the team. Early in the game, Glenn looked good on down blocks in the running game too.

This draft will be a good one. Too bad the Browns and Bengals will have 4 picks in front of us.

Ok steelblood, maybe I should have clarified myself a little more. On every pass rush, Glenn had Montgomery one on one. This play you allude to at 31 seconds into the youtube is a run play. Looks as if it is an inside trap and Glenn, being the LT has sealed off his outside defender (Mingo).

Mingo lined up over Glenn on other plays (IIRC - at least one pass). This is the only one I could find in the highlight clips though. No biggie really.

Mingo is a fantastic player so I was watching him very closely. I think Mingo will be a top ten pick in a couple of years. I've heard LSU coaches say that he is so athletic that he could start at safety.