Fire BA

[feltdizz]

Re: Fire BA

What OC says "I'm sorry, I'll try to do better" LOL. That statement shows how unrealistic the expectations are.
I can't remember an OC who was humble and didn't have an arrogant attitude. Coaches go into games thinking they have a winning formula.

As far as making players better? Plenty of players have given BA credit for making them better but you choose to ignore it or wave it off as something they are forced to say. We have players tweeting about Bin Laden, calling each other out in the press and getting in trouble with the law but I guess BA has them shook.

James Harisson didn't call out BA, he called out the guy who makes decisions with the ball. Ben is just as much of a constant as BA.

I don't think BA is a 10 but rating him a 3? Ben is a cheerleader for an OC who is a 3? Wow.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: Fire BA

If Moore hadn't fumbled on that drive, maybe the Steelers score a TD, likely they score a FG...their offensive output was STILL way below the line. Even if Moore hadn't fumbled at that point, the Steelers STILL would have ended up scoring 14-17 points LESS than they SHOULD have for the game. THAT'S the truth. Even if Moore hadn't fumbled, BA sucked. THAT'S the truth.

I still would have started a "Fire BA" thread. That's the TRUTH.

I call BS once again...

Moore fumbled on the two...I think (and my opinion is just as valid as yours) that they would have scored a TD...the final score would likely have been 20-9 and no such thread would have been started...

You would still hate Arians, but we wouldn't have this thread to beat the dead horse even more...

Dude...I call BS on you.

First of all, as to your assertion that they WOULD have scored a TD on the drive ended by Moore's fumble--I say, check out the Steelers' red zone statistics this year. More likely that they would have scored a FG. But even if the offense HAD scored a TD on that possession, they STILL would have fallen woefully SHORT of their potential for the game. BA still was his typically inept self when it came to making the in-game adjustments necessary to put points on the board in the second half.

Secondly, you don't even know me all that well...yet you sit there and state dogmatically that I absolutely would NOT have started a "Fire BA" thread? From now on, under the dictionary definition of "arrogance," they need to have the name "Slapstick."

[NorthCoast]

Re: Fire BA

If Mewelde Moore doesn't fumble the ball into the end zone, this thread doesn't exist...

You all know that's true...

Nonsense. I've been calling for BA to be fired for a long time. Regardless of Moore's fumble, BA's performance, as it is in most games, was below the line.

I never said that you didn't feel this way about Arians...

But, you wouldn't have started an all new thread on the topic if Mewelde Moore hadn't fumbled the ball into the end zone...

That's the truth...

If Moore hadn't fumbled on that drive, maybe the Steelers score a TD, likely they score a FG...their offensive output was STILL way below the line. Even if Moore hadn't fumbled at that point, the Steelers STILL would have ended up scoring 14-17 points LESS than they SHOULD have for the game. THAT'S the truth. Even if Moore hadn't fumbled, BA sucked. THAT'S the truth.

I still would have started a "Fire BA" thread. That's the TRUTH.

I'm sorry but what sucked about BA last game? The drop by Wallace in the endzone? The deep drop by Wallace? The fumble by Moore? The no look INT by Ben? Mendenhall pu$$iefooting in the flat at the 7? The hold by Miller?

What exactly did BA suck at last game? They were in position to make a ton of plays and they didn't make them.

How about 2nd half offensive drives:

3rd qtr 36 yds / TOP 4:27 Punt
3rd qtr 26 yds / TOP 1:58 Punt
4th qtr 13 yds / TOP 2:59 Punt

[Slapstick]

Re: Fire BA

Dude...I call BS on you.

First of all, as to your assertion that they WOULD have scored a TD on the drive ended by Moore's fumble--I say, check out the Steelers' red zone statistics this year. More likely that they would have scored a FG. But even if the offense HAD scored a TD on that possession, they STILL would have fallen woefully SHORT of their potential for the game. BA still was his typically inept self when it came to making the in-game adjustments necessary to put points on the board in the second half.

Secondly, you don't even know me all that well...yet you sit there and state dogmatically that I absolutely would NOT have started a "Fire BA" thread? From now on, under the dictionary definition of "arrogance," they need to have the name "Slapstick."

Wow. Someone is a little sensitive...

At any rate, the only other thread I can find that you started about Arians was last year and was after a several bad performances by the offense...

Indeed, the one thread you started about how you doubted that Arians would do a good job vs. the Patriots, you never went back to after that game...

So, no, history says that you would not have started a "Fire BA" thread had Moore not fumbled and the Steelers scored a TD on that first drive...

I apologize if the truth somehow offends you...

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: Fire BA

Dude...I call BS on you.

First of all, as to your assertion that they WOULD have scored a TD on the drive ended by Moore's fumble--I say, check out the Steelers' red zone statistics this year. More likely that they would have scored a FG. But even if the offense HAD scored a TD on that possession, they STILL would have fallen woefully SHORT of their potential for the game. BA still was his typically inept self when it came to making the in-game adjustments necessary to put points on the board in the second half.

Secondly, you don't even know me all that well...yet you sit there and state dogmatically that I absolutely would NOT have started a "Fire BA" thread? From now on, under the dictionary definition of "arrogance," they need to have the name "Slapstick."

Wow. Someone is a little sensitive...

At any rate, the only other thread I can find that you started about Arians was last year and was after a several bad performances by the offense...

Indeed, the one thread you started about how you doubted that Arians would do a good job vs. the Patriots, you never went back to after that game...

So, no, history says that you would not have started a "Fire BA" thread had Moore not fumbled and the Steelers scored a TD on that first drive...

I apologize if the truth somehow offends you...

What kind of logic is that? What, if I really thought BA should be fired, I'm supposed to have started a thread on the subject every week?

I have POSTED criticism of BA a NUMBER of times, including calling for his firing (go back and search my posts using keywords "Arians" or "BA"). Just because I only STARTED a THREAD on the subject twice does not negate those facts (except in the fantasy world of Slapstick).

As far as being "a little sensitive", I can remember some of your responses to posters such as Bukky back on the old TribLive board...you have little room to accuse anyone else of being "a little sensitive"!

[Wilkinsburg]

Re: Fire BA

What we really need is the next Jerome Bettis.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: Fire BA

What we really need is the next Jerome Bettis.

Wouldn't help with our OC, who wouldn't know how to use him!

[Slapstick]

Re: Fire BA

As far as being "a little sensitive", I can remember some of your responses to posters such as Bukky back on the old TribLive board...you have little room to accuse anyone else of being "a little sensitive"!

Bukky was an internet tough guy douchebag...I don't think that you are cut from that same cloth, so I at least know you that well...

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Fire BA

Steelers notes: Arians will pass on Ole Miss

By Mike Bires [email="mbires@timesonline.com"]mbires@timesonline.com[/email]
Posted: Friday, December 2, 2011


PITTSBURGH -- Bruce Arians just laughed when told that he's been mentioned as a candidate for the head coaching vacancy at Ole Miss.

"No. Those days (are over)," said Arians, the Steelers' offensive coordinator. "I can't stand rookies, man, so there's no way in hell I can coach college guys."

Arians, who's been in an assistant in the NFL since 1998, does have several stints as a college coach on his resume. Among his stops in the collegiate ranks include two years as running backs coach (1981-1982) at Alabama under the legendary Bear Bryant and a six-year run as head coach at Temple (1983-8.

"It's flattering," Arians said of the Ole Miss speculation. "It's a great university and I do have friends there. It's always nice to hear your name mentioned with any head coaching job. I wish them well in their search. But no, I'm not a candidate, believe me."

While Arians has no intentions of ever coaching again on the college level, that isn't the case for two other Steeler assistants -- quarterbacks coach Randy Fichtner and running backs coach Kirby Wilson.

Fichtner is considered a candidate at Ole Miss and Memphis. Fichtner had two different stints at Memphis and was the Tigers' offensive coordinator from 2001-2006.

Kirby is being mentioned as a candidate for the head coaching vacancy at Illinois where he played for two years (1980-1981).

"Randy would be a great college head coach whether it be Ole Miss or Memphis," Arians said. "He'd do a fantastic job as would Kirby."

Arians, 59, came to Pittsburgh in 2004 as the Steelers' wide receivers coach. He then became offensive coordinator in 2007 when Mike Tomlin was hired as head coach.

POLAMALU PRACTICES

Strong safety Troy Polamalu was back at practice Thursday. He missed Wednesday's workout as he recovered from a blow to the head in Sunday night's win in Kansas City.

The Steelers never said definitively if Polamalu had a concussion. They just said he was kept out of the game because he experienced concussion-like symptoms.

Coach Mike Tomlin said Tuesday that Polamalu is expected to play Sunday against the Bengals.

Before and after practice Thursday, Polamalu stayed clear of the locker room during interview sessions and wasn't available or comment.

In other injury news of note:

** Linebacker LaMarr Woodley took another step toward playing for the first time since Oct. 30 by practicing again for the second straight day.

"I'm still day-to-day, but I'm getting better every day," said Woodley, who's been out with a hamstring pull.

Woodley leads the Steelers with nine sacks.

** Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was limited at Thursday's practice after banging his broken right thumb.

"He got a little sting on it, nothing major," offensive coordinator Bruce Arians said. "So we just iced it down."

** Wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders (foot) also missed practice.

POTENTIAL PRO BOWLERS

Two Steelers are among the top 10 in the NFL fans' portion of the Pro Bowl vote. Wide receiver Mike Wallace is No. 8 (575,821). Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is ninth (565,37.

Wallace is second among AFC wideouts behind New England's Wes Welker. Roethlisberger is second among AFC QBs behind Tom Brady.

Two Steelers have received the most votes at their positions on the AFC portion of the ballot - center Maurkice Pouncey (228,297) and strong safety Troy Polamalu (146,989).

Pro Bowl voting will continue online and on web-enabled mobile phones by going to NFL.com/probowl through Dec. 19.

The AFC and NFC all-star squads are determined by a consensus vote of fans, players and coaches. Each group's vote counts one-third toward determining the 43-man rosters for each conference.

NFL players and coaches will cast their votes on Dec. 21-22.

The teams will be announced on Dec. 27.

This year's Pro Bowl will be played on Jan. 29 at Aloha Stadium in Honolulu, Hawaii.

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[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: Fire BA

Steelers notes: Arians will pass on Ole Miss

By Mike Bires [email="mbires@timesonline.com"]mbires@timesonline.com[/email]
Posted: Friday, December 2, 2011


PITTSBURGH -- Bruce Arians just laughed when told that he's been mentioned as a candidate for the head coaching vacancy at Ole Miss.

"No. Those days (are over)," said Arians, the Steelers' offensive coordinator. "I can't stand rookies, man, so there's no way in hell I can coach college guys."

Arians, who's been in an assistant in the NFL since 1998, does have several stints as a college coach on his resume. Among his stops in the collegiate ranks include two years as running backs coach (1981-1982) at Alabama under the legendary Bear Bryant and a six-year run as head coach at Temple (1983-8.

"It's flattering," Arians said of the Ole Miss speculation. "It's a great university and I do have friends there. It's always nice to hear your name mentioned with any head coaching job. I wish them well in their search. But no, I'm not a candidate, believe me."

While Arians has no intentions of ever coaching again on the college level, that isn't the case for two other Steeler assistants -- quarterbacks coach Randy Fichtner and running backs coach Kirby Wilson.

Fichtner is considered a candidate at Ole Miss and Memphis. Fichtner had two different stints at Memphis and was the Tigers' offensive coordinator from 2001-2006.

Kirby is being mentioned as a candidate for the head coaching vacancy at Illinois where he played for two years (1980-1981).

"Randy would be a great college head coach whether it be Ole Miss or Memphis," Arians said. "He'd do a fantastic job as would Kirby."

Arians, 59, came to Pittsburgh in 2004 as the Steelers' wide receivers coach. He then became offensive coordinator in 2007 when Mike Tomlin was hired as head coach.

POLAMALU PRACTICES

Strong safety Troy Polamalu was back at practice Thursday. He missed Wednesday's workout as he recovered from a blow to the head in Sunday night's win in Kansas City.

The Steelers never said definitively if Polamalu had a concussion. They just said he was kept out of the game because he experienced concussion-like symptoms.

Coach Mike Tomlin said Tuesday that Polamalu is expected to play Sunday against the Bengals.

Before and after practice Thursday, Polamalu stayed clear of the locker room during interview sessions and wasn't available or comment.

In other injury news of note:

** Linebacker LaMarr Woodley took another step toward playing for the first time since Oct. 30 by practicing again for the second straight day.

"I'm still day-to-day, but I'm getting better every day," said Woodley, who's been out with a hamstring pull.

Woodley leads the Steelers with nine sacks.

** Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was limited at Thursday's practice after banging his broken right thumb.

"He got a little sting on it, nothing major," offensive coordinator Bruce Arians said. "So we just iced it down."

** Wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders (foot) also missed practice.

POTENTIAL PRO BOWLERS

Two Steelers are among the top 10 in the NFL fans' portion of the Pro Bowl vote. Wide receiver Mike Wallace is No. 8 (575,821). Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is ninth (565,37.

Wallace is second among AFC wideouts behind New England's Wes Welker. Roethlisberger is second among AFC QBs behind Tom Brady.

Two Steelers have received the most votes at their positions on the AFC portion of the ballot - center Maurkice Pouncey (228,297) and strong safety Troy Polamalu (146,989).

Pro Bowl voting will continue online and on web-enabled mobile phones by going to NFL.com/probowl through Dec. 19.

The AFC and NFC all-star squads are determined by a consensus vote of fans, players and coaches. Each group's vote counts one-third toward determining the 43-man rosters for each conference.

NFL players and coaches will cast their votes on Dec. 21-22.

The teams will be announced on Dec. 27.

This year's Pro Bowl will be played on Jan. 29 at Aloha Stadium in Honolulu, Hawaii.

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When was the last time the Steelers had more offensive than defensive players voted in to the Pro Bowl?

[SteelTorch]

Re: Fire BA

What we really need is the next Jerome Bettis.

No.

We need a new OC and a better O-line (as has been said a million times already). That's all there is to it. But for some reason, the front office has made practically zero effort to fix it.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Fire BA

When was the last time the Steelers had more offensive than defensive players voted in to the Pro Bowl?

2005
OG Alan Faneca
C Jeff Hartings
OT Marvel Smith
WR Hines Ward

ILB James Farrior
OLB Joey Porter
DE Aaron Smith

Although we have had an equal number of offensive & defense players a couple of times since then.

2007
OG Alan Faneca
RB Willie Parker

NT Casey Hampton
SS Troy Polamalu

2008
OG Alan Faneca
RB Willie Parker
QB Ben Roethlisberger

NT Casey Hampton
OL James Harrison
SS Troy Polamalu

[SteelTorch]

Re: Fire BA

When was the last time the Steelers had more offensive than defensive players voted in to the Pro Bowl?

2005
OG Alan Faneca
C Jeff Hartings
OT Marvel Smith
WR Hines Ward

ILB James Farrior
OLB Joey Porter
DE Aaron Smith

Although we have had an equal number of offensive & defense players a couple of times since then.

2007
OG Alan Faneca
RB Willie Parker

NT Casey Hampton
SS Troy Polamalu

2008
OG Alan Faneca
RB Willie Parker
QB Ben Roethlisberger

NT Casey Hampton
OL James Harrison
SS Troy Polamalu

We also had a good offense in 2005. Plus, Alan Faneca was not Pro-Bowl worthy after 2006. He got in on name alone.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Fire BA

What we really need is the next Jerome Bettis.

No.

We need a new OC and a better O-line



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