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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
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    Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Paterno

    Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Paterno

    The LA Times
    November 16, 2011



    Franco Harris' comments in support of his former college coach, Joe Paterno, have cost him his job.

    The former Pittsburgh Steeler running back is the latest person to lose his job in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex-abuse scandal, as The Meadows Racetrack & Casino in Washington, Pa., announced Tuesday it was suspending its business relationship with the Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee who played with the Nittany Lions from 1969 to 1971 under recently fired coach Paterno.

    Harris, along with fellow former Pittsburgh Steeler Rocky Bleier, was hired by The Meadows in September to help with various outreach activities, charitable events and public appearances.

    The Meadows issued this statement Tuesday night: "In light of the recent developments with Franco Harris regarding Joe Paterno’s dismissal, Franco and The Meadows have mutually decided to put their business relationship on hold at this time, while these matters are looked into further."

    Paterno and university President Graham Spanier were fired Nov. 9 by Penn State's board of trustees as part of the fallout from the Sandusky scandal. Harris blasted the school for its treatment of the legendary coach.

    ”I feel that the board made a bad decision in letting Joe Paterno go,” Harris said. "I'm very disappointed in their decision. I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time. They were saying the football program under Joe was at fault.

    ”They really wouldn't give a reason. They're linking the football program to the scandal and, possibly, the cover-up. That's very disturbing to me.... I think there should be no connection to the football program, only in the case that it happened at the football building with an ex-coach. I'm still trying to find out who gave him access to the building, who signed that contract.”

    Harris also is one of several high-profile athletes listed as an honorary director of The Second Mile charity, which was founded by Sandusky. Others include Cal Ripken Jr., Arnold Palmer and Andy Reid.

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  • pfelix73
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    • Aug 2008
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    #2
    Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

    Ah, bunk- H'es better off not representing them.... He's spot on with his comments...

    Way to go Franco....

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    • aggiebones
      Pro Bowler
      • Jan 2009
      • 1427

      #3
      Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

      agreed. Cowardly move by them.
      And he is right. What many say was a good move in firing Joe, really was baseless and cowardly, unless they know something I haven't heard. Which is possible. But they were in arse saving mode only.

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      • rpmpit
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 2004

        #4
        Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

        Heard Jack Ham say it was a good move to fire Paterno.

        Here, found this:

        [url="http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/11/11/jack-ham-on-paternos-firing-there-had-to-be-a-clean-break/"]http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/11/ ... ean-break/[/url]

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        • MadSteel
          Benchwarmer
          • Apr 2011
          • 71

          #5
          Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

          Im sure the several kids that got raped by a man and Joe was told about, would have to agree with Franco too. Football is the best thing to happen to planet earth, but Joe and several others were wrong not to tell on Sandusky. Its ruined a lot of young men's lifes.
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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #6
            Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

            I watched him on Fox News last sunday and his answer to every question was they shouldn't have fired JoePa.

            I understand Franco is a PSU guy but he needs to STFU. No one cares about Joe's job. It's not like he was really coaching anyway.

            Joe sold his house to his wife for $1 and love and affection this summer. I think he knew this was going to come out. Why else would he do it? Joe knew and he paid the price.
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            • snarky
              Pro Bowler
              • Sep 2008
              • 1198

              #7
              Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

              Given that Sandusky was investigated by campus police in 1998 and told in early 1999 that he would not be the next head coach, I find it very difficult to get around the idea that Joe didn't know any of this was going on. I think at the very least, they had to suspend him without pay until more was known; but given the controversy that was unraveling and the speed with which it was unraveling, I think they were correct to exercise their right to fire him.
              In response to his pleas, an officer said: "You think we've never arrested somebody that's made national media? ... We deal with the Bengals all the time."

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              • phillyesq
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                • May 2008
                • 7568

                #8
                Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Joe sold his house to his wife for $1 and love and affection this summer. I think he knew this was going to come out. Why else would he do it? Joe knew and he paid the price.
                Means nothing. Lots of people do it for various tax and estate purposes.

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                • steelsnis
                  Starter
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 980

                  #9
                  Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

                  Originally posted by phillyesq
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  Joe sold his house to his wife for $1 and love and affection this summer. I think he knew this was going to come out. Why else would he do it? Joe knew and he paid the price.
                  Means nothing. Lots of people do it for various tax and estate purposes.
                  Philly, I know you're an attorney, but on Colin Cowherd's show yesterday he was talking about this very thing. He indicated that several tax attorneys and attorneys specializing in Elder law looked into this and said that there is virtually Zero tax benefit to doing such a thing.

                  They said that the only benefit is as a shield against litigation.

                  FWIW, I'm not an attorney, just relaying what was discussed yesterday.

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                  • phillyesq
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                    • May 2008
                    • 7568

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                    Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

                    Originally posted by steelsnis
                    Originally posted by phillyesq
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    Joe sold his house to his wife for $1 and love and affection this summer. I think he knew this was going to come out. Why else would he do it? Joe knew and he paid the price.
                    Means nothing. Lots of people do it for various tax and estate purposes.
                    Philly, I know you're an attorney, but on Colin Cowherd's show yesterday he was talking about this very thing. He indicated that several tax attorneys and attorneys specializing in Elder law looked into this and said that there is virtually Zero tax benefit to doing such a thing.

                    They said that the only benefit is as a shield against litigation.

                    FWIW, I'm not an attorney, just relaying what was discussed yesterday.
                    I know very little about tax law or elder law, but I know a lot of attorneys who have their homes in their spouses name after selling the home for $1. And not sole practitioners or people that would have liability concenrs.

                    I don't know what the specific benefits are, but I believe that there are benefits other than avoiding litigation exposure. I'm also not sure how much litigation protection such a transfer would offer, if any.

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                    • papillon
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 11340

                      #11
                      Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

                      Originally posted by phillyesq
                      Originally posted by steelsnis
                      Originally posted by phillyesq
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      Joe sold his house to his wife for $1 and love and affection this summer. I think he knew this was going to come out. Why else would he do it? Joe knew and he paid the price.
                      Means nothing. Lots of people do it for various tax and estate purposes.
                      Philly, I know you're an attorney, but on Colin Cowherd's show yesterday he was talking about this very thing. He indicated that several tax attorneys and attorneys specializing in Elder law looked into this and said that there is virtually Zero tax benefit to doing such a thing.

                      They said that the only benefit is as a shield against litigation.

                      FWIW, I'm not an attorney, just relaying what was discussed yesterday.
                      I know very little about tax law or elder law, but I know a lot of attorneys who have their homes in their spouses name after selling the home for $1. And not sole practitioners or people that would have liability concenrs.

                      I don't know what the specific benefits are, but I believe that there are benefits other than avoiding litigation exposure. I'm also not sure how much litigation protection such a transfer would offer, if any.
                      Well, I would think that if civil lawsuits start to become all the rage against Joe Paterno that the only assets that can be used for remuneration are assets that have Joe's name on them. So, by moving the house into his wife's name only, the house couldn't be part of a civil law suit. I could be wrong, but that would be my thoughts on why to transfer the house.

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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
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                        #12
                        Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

                        Originally posted by phillyesq
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        Joe sold his house to his wife for $1 and love and affection this summer. I think he knew this was going to come out. Why else would he do it? Joe knew and he paid the price.
                        Means nothing. Lots of people do it for various tax and estate purposes.
                        It means EVERYTHING when you a now in a scandal and are lawyering up.

                        when it was reported everyone said there were no tax benefits or reasons to do this.

                        The timing is very suspicious.
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                        • Shawn
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                          • Mar 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

                          What strikes me as odd is where the focus lies with this situation. If I am infurated about anything it's that innocent children were likely raped.
                          Trolls are people too.

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                          • Dee Dub
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jan 2010
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                            #14
                            Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

                            I love Franco Harris. As a child he was my favorite player and a big reason I became a Steeler fan...however...if the following is true...

                            A source told ESPN's Schad that Paterno hopes to clarify what he was told by McQueary as soon as Thursday. According to the source, Paterno recalls McQueary "vaguely" referencing "fondling" or "touching" or "horsing around" by Sandusky and a youth. But Paterno never had the understanding that McQueary had witnessed a "sodomy" or "rape."

                            [url="http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto"]http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto[/url] ... penn-state

                            ...then Franco is wrong in his support of Joe Paterno. And that means that Paterno lied and covered up the scandal. And basically what Franco is doing is just what everyone else has done. Ignore a horrible thing because it involves Penn State and the legendary Joe Paterno.
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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
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                              #15
                              Re: Franco Harris loses job for comments supporting Joe Pate

                              Originally posted by Shawn
                              What strikes me as odd is where the focus lies with this situation. If I am infurated about anything it's that innocent children were likely raped.
                              That's why Franc needs to STFU! He can't answer any question without the blind love for Paterno. Dude actually said they should rehire Joe!

                              Really Franco? In your mind you really think they need to rehire Joe right now to set things straight? Franco is delusional...
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