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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

    These "truths" I have articulated in the past seem to hold for Week #2:

    1. The Steelers will win the AFC North by minimum 2 games
    2. The Browns are nothing more than pretenders and will struggle to win 8 games
    3. Derek Anderson is a fraud. As I also have said, add David Garrard in Jacksonville to that list.
    4. The Bumgals are horrible and Carson Palmer is one of the most over rated QBs in the NFL.
    5. The Pats will win the AFC East because there is little competition. The Bills do over hope to knock them off.
    6. The Titans will be a tough road game for us.
    7. Brett Kiesel is underappreciated by Steeler fans and when he went out the Browns attacked that side of the line with the running game with some success.
    8. The OL will be fine this year and do the job they need to. Add to that Kemo will make us forget Alan "Whatever his name was." We need to resign Kemo and tag Marvel.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"
  • frankthetank1
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 2755

    #2
    Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

    all very true. i do think the bills will win the east though, and kiesel is very under valued. i really hope his injury is minor. kirschke is a good back up, but he is a guy to fill in now and then not to start. so far so good with injuries

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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

      Forgot one:

      9. Nate Washington will never make a tough catch even if his life depended on it. Would we really lose anything with Sweed in the line up getting experience? Willie Reid should still be on this team.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • stlrz d
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 9244

        #4
        Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Forgot one:

        9. Nate Washington will never make a tough catch even if his life depended on it. Would we really lose anything with Sweed in the line up getting experience? Willie Reid should still be on this team.
        If you watch the replay you'll see the ball was at the DBs feet. Had it been a foot higher it likely would have been picked. It was low and behind Nate.

        I'm not saying Nate isn't to blame for some things that happen, but the play you're referring to was not his fault in the least.

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        • frankthetank1
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 2755

          #5
          Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

          Originally posted by Oviedo
          Forgot one:

          9. Nate Washington will never make a tough catch even if his life depended on it. Would we really lose anything with Sweed in the line up getting experience? Willie Reid should still be on this team.
          are you talking about the bad throw in the 1st quarter? it looked like the wind knocked that down. no way any wr would make that catch. im not huge on nate but i havent seen him drop any catches so far this season

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          • papillon
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 11340

            #6
            Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

            Nate, like other Steelers that seem to be criticized relentlessly will make plays that help this team win football games this year. It's part of being a Steeler, by now, we should all realize that the coaching staff knows what they are doing. I have been critical of some coaches (Ligashevsky in particular), but, you know what? The Steelers are playing good football right now and players that we all thought were useless, washed up or not very good are proving to be anything but.

            Tomlin may have some in game management mistakes to work on, but, as of right now, I'm sold on this guy. He knows what he wants to accomplish and the players he needs to get it done. They may not be the ones we want or like, but, they are performing for him at a high level right now.

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            • frankthetank1
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 2755

              #7
              Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

              Originally posted by papillon
              Nate, like other Steelers that seem to be criticized relentlessly will make plays that help this team win football games this year. It's part of being a Steeler, by now, we should all realize that the coaching staff knows what they are doing. I have been critical of some coaches (Ligashevsky in particular), but, you know what? The Steelers are playing good football right now and players that we all thought were useless, washed up or not very good are proving to be anything but.

              Tomlin may have some in game management mistakes to work on, but, as of right now, I'm sold on this guy. He knows what he wants to accomplish and the players he needs to get it done. They may not be the ones we want or like, but, they are performing for him at a high level right now.

              Pappy
              i agree 100%. before the season started i criticized kiesel and the o-line a lot but they are playing awsome so far. i love tomlin he gets a lot out of average players. they are playing very good football, if they can keep it up this team will go very far. you really cant ask more of a second year coach. even arians is calling great games. where was that last year? hartwig is a huge up grade from mahan. imagine if mahan still started. rogers would of had 4 sacks. the st's so far has been awsome!! they have improved a great deal. miller has also improved his blocking a good deal

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              • RuthlessBurgher
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 33208

                #8
                Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

                Originally posted by Oviedo
                Forgot one:

                9. Nate Washington will never make a tough catch even if his life depended on it. Would we really lose anything with Sweed in the line up getting experience? Willie Reid should still be on this team.
                Nate didn't drop any passes. Hines dropped 2 that hit him square in the hands, plus another that would have been a tough fingertip catch that he couldn't bring in. I don't know if you were just assuming that the 86 was an 85 there in a couple of those instances or what.
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • RuthlessBurgher
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #9
                  Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  8. The OL will be fine this year and do the job they need to. Add to that Kemo will make us forget Alan "Whatever his name was." We need to resign Kemo and tag Marvel.
                  I really liked seeing Kemo pushing Rogers off to the side about 5 yards to open up a hole for Willie. He also looked good as a pulling guard, leading Willie to the outside. It was funny seeing Simmons pulling and doing a somersault over the DB that wanted no part of him.

                  On the one deep pass to Willie down the sideline, I don't think I have ever seen Ben have that much time in the pocket with absolutely no thread of a rush from anywhere.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • AngryAsian
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 3010

                    #10
                    Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

                    This OL has been playing better than anticipated. People and a lot of the fans really criticized Tomlin and the FO for not addressing the OL needs as an imperative in the offseason. I think thus far we can see the rationale for their decisions this past summer. I'm not saying that we have an All-Star caliber line, but we seem to be playing with more cohesion and effort. As for the skill positions that are tabled for discussion (WR). I wanted Reid on this team, I think he would of been a great slot receiver for us and the comparisons to Nate is expected. Do I think Nate could of made some plays for us.... yes, but I'm noted for being hyper-critical about Nate. I just think that we really had some plays that could been huge for us if we could of only capitalized on them. Against the top tiered teams we can't miss those opportunities regardless of weather conditions.... this criticism includes Hines' drops.

                    I don't care if we win ugly, so long as we win.

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                    • SteelTorch
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1361

                      #11
                      Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

                      Speaking of O-line...does anyone have a photoshop picture making fun of Faneca and money? Like maybe a photo of him eyeing a big moneybag, or something like that; sort of similar to the Starks one I saw earlier? I could think of plenty of uses for it.
                      http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/310/torchsigoe6.jpg

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #12
                        Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

                        Originally posted by SteelTorch
                        Speaking of O-line...does anyone have a photoshop picture making fun of Faneca and money? Like maybe a photo of him eyeing a big moneybag, or something like that; sort of similar to the Starks one I saw earlier? I could think of plenty of uses for it.
                        Who is this "Faneca" that you speak of? Never heard of him.
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 10281

                          #13
                          Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

                          Originally posted by frankthetank1
                          i agree 100%. before the season started i criticized kiesel and the o-line a lot but they are playing awsome so far. i love tomlin he gets a lot out of average players. they are playing very good football, if they can keep it up this team will go very far. you really cant ask more of a second year coach. even arians is calling great games. where was that last year? hartwig is a huge up grade from mahan. imagine if mahan still started. rogers would of had 4 sacks. the st's so far has been awsome!! they have improved a great deal. miller has also improved his blocking a good deal
                          I think you answered your own question in the next sentence. It is tough to gameplan an offense when you never know if your QB will still be standing 3 seconds after the snap.

                          Going into the year, the consensus two biggest issues on this team were:

                          1) O-line - Faced two pretty good and very different fronts. Houston is a team with a strong edge rush while Cleveland is a team with big bodies that get pressure up the middle. Whether or not you think the O-line has been great, it has to be clear that they are not the same glaring weakness that they were last year.

                          2) ST coverage - 180 degree turnaround. Faced two very tough tests so far and have come up very solid.
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                          • Steel Life
                            Pro Bowler
                            • May 2008
                            • 1535

                            #14
                            Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            Forgot one:

                            9. Nate Washington will never make a tough catch even if his life depended on it. Would we really lose anything with Sweed in the line up getting experience? Willie Reid should still be on this team.
                            Jeez O...just cut it out. Obviously the coaches have a different opinion - Sweed's inactive becasue HE can't hang onto the ball & Reid now resides on the Eagles practice squad because in three seasons he didn't do squat. As for Nate, neither one of the two passes thrown his way were "catchable", while Hines missed two that he makes routinely.

                            You want some real WR catching issues?...check out the Browns message boards skewering Braylon & Winslow.
                            It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust & sweat & blood...

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                            • SanAntonioSteelerFan
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 8361

                              #15
                              Re: Oviedo's Week #2 Truisms

                              Originally posted by Steel Life
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              Forgot one:

                              9. Nate Washington will never make a tough catch even if his life depended on it. Would we really lose anything with Sweed in the line up getting experience? Willie Reid should still be on this team.
                              Jeez O...just cut it out. Obviously the coaches have a different opinion - Sweed's inactive becasue HE can't hang onto the ball & Reid now resides on the Eagles practice squad because in three seasons he didn't do squat. As for Nate, neither one of the two passes thrown his way were "catchable", while Hines missed two that he makes routinely.

                              You want some real WR catching issues?...check out the Browns message boards skewering Braylon & Winslow.
                              Glad we're not Cleveland fans this AM!


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                              HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!

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