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  • steelblood
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4166

    #16
    Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

    II watched several of his games in college. QB Dan LeFevour and WR Brian Anderson were top talents at CMU, but Brown was the man. He was a great underneath possession receiver, a big play threat, and a killer KR and PR. He has such suddenness and explosion.

    Wallace has world class speed. Brown is fast, but not close to Wallace. But, Brown is better in every single other part of the game.
    Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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    • SteelCrazy
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      • Aug 2008
      • 5049

      #17
      Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

      Wallace is the better receiver now but he is as good as he is going to get. Brown is going to be Jerry Rice good. He is a rarity that comes along once every 25 years. A bold statement? yes and it may not even happen. He may regress, but it is highly unlikely. It's exciting watching him play as it is to watch Wallace. I hope we are able to retain both at the end of their contracts.
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      • Captain Lemming
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        • Jun 2008
        • 16041

        #18
        Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

        Originally posted by Jigawatts
        What the hell is a Lardarius?
        When the car in you sig is rereleased in 2012....that is what it will be called.
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        • Captain Lemming
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          • Jun 2008
          • 16041

          #19
          Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

          Originally posted by flippy
          Mike Wallace = Randy Moss without the height

          Antonio Brown = Steve Smith

          Manny Sanders = Marvin Harrison

          We've got the best trio of WRs in the history of the game. Time will prove this out.
          Flippy, I like you dude but you crack me up sometimes.
          I'm a stinkin Steeler LEMMING, and I cannot match your unbridled homerism.
          Seriously dude with all the "best ever" opinions you give, this team has no peer in the history of the game.
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          • Eddie Spaghetti
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            • Jul 2008
            • 4123

            #20
            Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

            jerry rice???

            cmon man, thats absurd.

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            • hawaiiansteel
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              • May 2008
              • 35648

              #21
              Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

              Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
              jerry rice???

              cmon man, thats absurd.

              that would mean that Antonio Brown is going to be the best WR ever...

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              • RuthlessBurgher
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                • May 2008
                • 33208

                #22
                Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                jerry rice???

                cmon man, thats absurd.

                that would mean that Antonio Brown is going to be the WR ever...
                And just think...he was taken with the "throw in" 6th round draft pick that we got from Arizona along with Bryant McFadden for the 5th rounder obtained from the Jets in the Santonio Holmes trade.
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #23
                  Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

                  Originally posted by flippy
                  Mike Wallace = Randy Moss without the height

                  Antonio Brown = Steve Smith

                  Manny Sanders = Marvin Harrison

                  Hines Ward = Hines Ward

                  We've got the best quartet of WRs in the history of the game. Time will prove this out.
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • Captain Lemming
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                    • Jun 2008
                    • 16041

                    #24
                    Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

                    Do you remember Jake Reed of the Vikings?
                    Big, fast Crazy productive receiver. On most teams he would be the star but he was overshadowed by Chris Carter, an all time great.

                    In 1994, Jake Reed combined with fellow recevier Cris Carter for 207 receptions, which was an NFL record.

                    Carter and Reed combined to become the first teammate duo to amass 1,000 each in four consecutive seasons.

                    That prolific Viking tandem of 1,000 yard receivers added Randy Moss

                    Not shorter Randy Moss, the full size one.

                    Moss had 17 TDs as a rookie with a tandem who each had 1,000 yards for the previous four seasons.

                    Randall Cunningham had the year of his career.

                    That team set the all-time scoring record.

                    Those three receivers accounted for 34 TDs. Perspective?
                    Our entire wide receiving corp had 17 TDs last season.
                    Moss did that BY HIMSELF.
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                    • ColumbusSteelerFan
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                      • May 2008
                      • 388

                      #25
                      Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                      Do you remember Jake Reed of the Vikings?
                      Big, fast Crazy productive receiver. On most teams he would be the star but he was overshadowed by Chris Carter, an all time great.

                      In 1994, Jake Reed combined with fellow recevier Cris Carter for 207 receptions, which was an NFL record.

                      Carter and Reed combined to become the first teammate duo to amass 1,000 each in four consecutive seasons.

                      That prolific Viking tandem of 1,000 yard receivers added Randy Moss

                      Not shorter Randy Moss, the full size one.

                      Moss had 17 TDs as a rookie with a tandem who each had 1,000 yards for the previous four seasons.

                      Randall Cunningham had the year of his career.

                      That team set the all-time scoring record.

                      Those three receivers accounted for 34 TDs. Perspective?
                      Our entire wide receiving corp had 17 TDs last season.
                      Moss did that BY HIMSELF.
                      And what prevented that trio of receivers from getting to the Super Bowl that year? A 38 yard missed field goal. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself for the Young Money club this year.
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                      • Captain Lemming
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                        • Jun 2008
                        • 16041

                        #26
                        Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

                        Originally posted by ColumbusSteelerFan
                        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                        Do you remember Jake Reed of the Vikings?
                        Big, fast Crazy productive receiver. On most teams he would be the star but he was overshadowed by Chris Carter, an all time great.

                        In 1994, Jake Reed combined with fellow recevier Cris Carter for 207 receptions, which was an NFL record.

                        Carter and Reed combined to become the first teammate duo to amass 1,000 each in four consecutive seasons.

                        That prolific Viking tandem of 1,000 yard receivers added Randy Moss

                        Not shorter Randy Moss, the full size one.

                        Moss had 17 TDs as a rookie with a tandem who each had 1,000 yards for the previous four seasons.

                        Randall Cunningham had the year of his career.

                        That team set the all-time scoring record.

                        Those three receivers accounted for 34 TDs. Perspective?
                        Our entire wide receiving corp had 17 TDs last season.
                        Moss did that BY HIMSELF.
                        And what prevented that trio of receivers from getting to the Super Bowl that year? A 38 yard missed field goal. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself for the Young Money club this year.
                        But they had a kicker who was on the verge of having the best year ever.

                        We on the other had......not so much.

                        THEREFORE, in the same topsy turvy manner, just as mr. clutch choked, our Kicker will be clutch when we least expect it.

                        SHAWN SHANK-EM REDEMPTION

                        I'm drinkin that Flippy KoolAID again

                        OH YEAH!!!!
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                        • hawaiiansteel
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                          • May 2008
                          • 35648

                          #27
                          Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

                          if I was forced to choose between the two, I would take Wallace...



                          Mike Wallace Watch: Steelers WR Averaging an Even 100 Yards Per Game At Halfway Point of 2011 Season

                          by Michael Bean on Nov 1, 2011



                          Mike Wallace had his streak of consecutive games with at least one reception of 40+ yards snapped at six, but by no means did the third-year gamebreaker have an off day. Wallace caught all seven passes thrown his way and amassed 70 yards to give him an even 800 on the year at the halfway mark of the season. For us non-math majors, that gives Wallace an average of exactly 100 receiving yards per contest so far. The 70 yards in Week 8 marked the lowest single-game total so far this season.

                          Wallace is now about 250 yards off pace from Jerry Rice's single season record of 1,848 set in 1995. But he's still right there neck and neck with some of the NFL's most productive receivers this season. He'll need one or two more huge games to wind up with a 1,500 yard season I'd guess, but all that really matters is that Wallace continues to produce at a relatively high level each week for Ben Roethlisberger. And he's done just that, having not gone a single Sunday without registering at least 70 yards.

                          Let's take a look at his game-by-game production, then check in to see where he stacks up with his peers in receptions, receiving yards and yards per reception.

                          Game Receptions Yards Yards/Catch TDs

                          Week 1 @ BAL 8 107 13.38 0
                          Week 2 vs SEA 8 126 15.75 1
                          Week 3 @ IND 5 144 28.8 1
                          Week 4 @ HOU 4 77 19.25 0
                          Week 5 vs TEN 6 82 13.66 1
                          Week 6 vs JAX 2 76 38.00 1
                          Week 7 @ ARI 3 118 39.33 1
                          Week 8 vs NE 7 70 100.00 1

                          SEASON TOTALS

                          43 800 18.60 5

                          ON PACE FOR:

                          86 1,600 18.60 10

                          2011 WR Leaders (through Week

                          Receptions (WRs and TEs only):

                          Wes Welker -- 57
                          Jimmy Graham -- 49
                          Calvin Johnson -- 47
                          Steve Smith -- 46
                          Mike Wallace -- 43

                          Receiving Yards (Yards/Game):

                          Steve Smith -- 918 (114.
                          Wes Welker -- 824 (117.7)
                          Calvin Johnson -- 804 (100.5)
                          Mike Wallace -- 800 (100.0)
                          Jimmy Graham -- 713 (89.1)
                          Gregg Jennings -- 677 (96.7)

                          Yards per Reception (minimum 25 receptions):

                          Steve Smith -- 20.0
                          Mike Wallace -- 18.6
                          DeSean Jackson -- 18.0
                          Victor Cruz -- 17.8
                          Larry Fitzgerald -- 17.7

                          [url="http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2011/11/1/2528974/steelers-patriots-mike-wallace-stats-nfl-receiving-statistics-wes-welker-steve-smith-calvin-johnson"]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/20 ... in-johnson[/url]

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                          • D Rock
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 2797

                            #28
                            Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

                            I find it quite shocking that the biggest single game Wallace has ever had is 144 yards, and that he has only caught multiple TDs 3 times in his career. In the same 3 year span, Ward has had 159 yards and 2 games with multiple TDs.

                            Wallace is great and all, but I'm still waiting for a level of Calvin Johnson-ness to show up, if even for only a week. (161 and 152 yard games, 6 weeks with multiple TDs, including 4 straight weeks to open this season.)

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                            • hawaiiansteel
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 35648

                              #29
                              Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

                              Wallace: ‘I Can Get Deep On Anybody’

                              Posted by Garrett Downing on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2011



                              Steelers wide receiver looking for big plays against Ravens secondary.

                              Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Mike Wallace loves to take the top off opposing defenses with the deep pass.

                              The speedy wide receiver has a knack for making the big play, and going up against a Baltimore Ravens defense that has Ed Reed at safety doesn’t give Wallace any hesitations about going for the deep route.

                              “I still feel like I can get deep on anybody,” Wallace said during Wednesday’s conference call after referencing Reed. “I don’t care who’s back there. It’s just a matter of opportunity.

                              “There’s nothing they can do to stop me from getting deep if I have an opportunity.”

                              But in recent games, the Ravens have been able to contain Wallace from converting on the long pass.

                              While he caught eight passes for 107 yards in the Week 1 matchup, his longest reception was a 26-yard grab and the Ravens kept him out of the end zone. The Patriots are the only other team that has prevented Wallace from catching a pass 40 yards or longer this season.

                              In three games against the Ravens last year, Wallace’s longest catch was a 24-yard reception and he failed to score a touchdown. Twice, the Ravens held Wallace – who averaged 72 receiving yards a game last year– to less than 25 yards.

                              Wallace has 21 career touchdowns, but none against the Ravens.

                              The main reason for that, Wallace said, is Reed’s presence in the middle of the field.

                              “They have a great safety in the middle of the field,” Wallace said. “So when you’re playing with a guy like that, you have to kind of be smart about it.”

                              Wallace is fourth in the NFL in receiving yards (800) this year, and was in the top five (1,257 yards) last season, but his play has not gone far enough to impress Ravens cornerback Lardarius Webb, who said Steelers receiver Antonio Brown is the best of their group.

                              “They have a guy, No. 84, Antonio Brown, who’s better than 17 (Wallace) in all aspects of the game,” Webb said. “Great returner, great wide receiver.”

                              Wallace leads the Steelers with 43 receptions, 800 yards and five touchdowns, while Brown has 34 grabs, 431 yards and one receiving touchdown.

                              Wallace’s emergence as a deep-play threat has come at a time when Pittsburgh’s offensive approach has shifted to more of a passing attack than the traditional ground-and-pound game.

                              That big play potential has added another dimension to the Steelers’ offense, and Wallace said he doesn’t plan to change his mindset this weekend against the Ravens.

                              “Every single week before the game, I visualize going deep or making big plays,” Wallace said. “I consider myself a big playmaker.”

                              [url="http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2011/11/02/wallace-i-can-get-deep-on-anybody/"]http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2011/1 ... n-anybody/[/url]

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                              • feltdizz
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                                • May 2008
                                • 27532

                                #30
                                Re: Lardarius Webb Says Antonio Brown 'Better Than' Mike Wal

                                Wallace is crazy fast and thanks to Ike I was dying with laughter watching Wallace run after a reception. His technique really is horrible and his free arm is waving like it's on fire.

                                Anyways.... Brown is going to be the best WR of this group. He isn't the best year but the guy is incredible at making splash plays. Every time he touches the ball it feels like something special is about to happen. The only problem with Brown is maturity. I think that held him back early on in his career.

                                A good friend of mine has an older brother who coached at CMU when Brown was there and he said Brown was putting on a show every game.

                                I love Wallace and the guy can burn but Brown has it all. I'm happy we have both.
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