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  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35649

    It’s time for Ben to step up his game

    What's up with Roethlisberger?

    MONDAY, 17 OCTOBER 2011 WRITTEN BY BOB SMIZIK


    With their defeat of Jacksonville, the Steelers are 4-2 and winners of four of their past five. That’s good.

    Here’s what is not so good about that record. The four wins are against teams that are a combined 7-16. Two of those wins were by narrow margins over teams that are a combined 1-11.

    The 2005 season, when the Steelers were 7-5 but on their way to winning the Super Bowl, should have taught us never to judge a team too early in the year. But, of course, we do and the judgment of the Steelers for 2011 is not heartening.

    The Jacksonville game only added to the doubt. It might be some time, perhaps never, before we discover what exactly happened to the Steelers' offense in the second half and, more precisely, what happened to Ben Roethlisberger.

    How does an offense, playing against what is, at best, an average defense, accumulate 315 yards in the first half and only 55 in the second? And how does a quarterback who passed for 181 in the first half, throw for 19 in the second?

    Which leads to the question upon which this season rests: What’s up with Roethlisberger?

    Oh, he’s good. He can still make something out of less than nothing as well or better than any quarterback in the league. But although he has one of the league’s most dangerous and prolific deep threats in his receiving corps, his numbers are not what might be expected.

    With all but two of the Week 6 games completed, Roethlisberger’s rankings among league quarterbacks were ordinary. In passer rating, he was 12th; yards per game, 11th; percentage of completion, 14th; touchdowns, tied for 7th; interceptions, tied for sixth.

    None of those numbers has the ring of elite that often, and deservedly, is attached to Roethlisberger.

    Passer rating is often ridiculed because, as its name implies, it takes into account only what a quarterback does with his arm. To counter that, ESPN came out with a new statistic this year called QBR, which includes passing, rushing, sacks, fumbles and penalties. Roethlisberger does less well in this rating.

    Through the first five weeks of the season, excluding all of yesterday’s games, his rating was 56.2, which put him in 13th place. Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady were 1-2 with ratings of 84.8 and 84.2. Among the quarterbacks listed ahead of Roethlisberger were Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Michael Vick Matt Schaub, Matt Hasselbeck, Ryan Fitzpatrick Tony Romo and Matthew Stafford.

    This is not to suggest for a second that all of those quarterbacks are better than Roethlisberger. They are not. But this information does point put that Roethlisberger has been less than special this year.

    His two worst games were in the team’s losses. He probably couldn’t have made a difference in the Baltimore game, but he could have in the seven-point loss to Houston.

    The Steelers play at Arizona (1-4) Sunday, then come to the meat-grinder part of what is an easy schedule -- consecutive games against New England and Baltimore.

    It’s time for Roethlisberger to step up his game.

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  • Steelhere10
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3849

    #2
    Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

    Some will make you delete this post in 3-2-1.
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    • SteelCrazy
      Legend
      • Aug 2008
      • 5049

      #3
      Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

      Yesterday was the only game he looked bad playing. The others were not so much his fault as he was too busy picking his self up off the ground. It's a little early to be asking him to pick up his game. If he looks like this again next week (as he did vs Jacksonville)vs Arizona, then it may be time to be concerned.
      2019 Mock

      1. ILB
      2. CB
      3. ILB
      4. S
      5. CB
      6. ILB
      7. S

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      • BURGH86STEEL
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 6921

        #4
        Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

        Originally posted by SteelCrazy
        Yesterday was the only game he looked bad playing. The others were not so much his fault as he was too busy picking his self up off the ground. It's a little early to be asking him to pick up his game. If he looks like this again next week (as he did vs Jacksonville)vs Arizona, then it may be time to be concerned.
        Did you miss the other games?

        A big part of the inconsistency this offense displayed over the years is because of Ben's inconsistent play. QB play can have a trickle down effect on the entire offense.

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        • Steelhere10
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 3849

          #5
          Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

          Ben have looked bad, the last 7 of 8 meaningful games.
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          • SteelCrazy
            Legend
            • Aug 2008
            • 5049

            #6
            Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

            Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
            Originally posted by SteelCrazy
            Yesterday was the only game he looked bad playing. The others were not so much his fault as he was too busy picking his self up off the ground. It's a little early to be asking him to pick up his game. If he looks like this again next week (as he did vs Jacksonville)vs Arizona, then it may be time to be concerned.
            Did you miss the other games?

            A big part of the inconsistency this offense displayed over the years is because of Ben's inconsistent play. QB play can have a trickle down effect on the entire offense.
            I saw the other games, but like I stated earlier, it wasnt his fault the line sucked in the scheme they were running. Not until Kugs changed the scheme did he have a chance to suck. He was running for his life. Yesterday was his fault, no argument, but the guy is only playing on a broken foot....
            2019 Mock

            1. ILB
            2. CB
            3. ILB
            4. S
            5. CB
            6. ILB
            7. S

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            • ikestops85
              Hall of Famer
              • Jun 2008
              • 3724

              #7
              Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

              Originally posted by SteelCrazy
              Yesterday was the only game he looked bad playing. The others were not so much his fault as he was too busy picking his self up off the ground. It's a little early to be asking him to pick up his game. If he looks like this again next week (as he did vs Jacksonville)vs Arizona, then it may be time to be concerned.
              I was actually glad to see this thread when I came on the board this morning because I was thinking of starting one like it. There is something different with Ben's play this year. Yes, he has been under extreme duress because of offensive line problems. Yes, the running game hasn't done very well until lately. But for some reason Ben hasn't been making the key plays that he normally does.

              Ben has never been the most consistent QB in the league but he has always been the guy I want under center when the game is on the line. That really hasn't been the case this year and it's hard for me to put a finger on why. I know he drove us down the field to win the Indy game but other than that he hasn't looked like the Ben we've come to know and love.

              One of the things that sticks out to me is he has missed on passes to lots of wide open receivers. Many of them after he has pulled his Houdini act in the pocket to escape the rush. These types of plays have always been Ben's bread and butter but this year he seems to not be putting the finishing touch on those plays.

              The other problem is he is having long stretches where he is just inaccurate with his passes. Sunday's game was a good example of that. He started out on fire but then all of a sudden he misses a wide open Brown in the endzone, a wide open Miller down the middle, a wide open Sanders deep and a wide open Wallace deep.

              There are other games like this also going back to last years SB. In the season opener against the Ratbirds he started out in rhythm and accurate but then he started throwing some of the worst passes I have ever seen him throw.

              It would really be a shame if we don't make the playoffs this year since our schedule is so weak we should be able to walk in. But Ben is going to have to step up his game if to make the playoffs a possibility.
              As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

              but Go Steelers!!!

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              • SteelCrazy
                Legend
                • Aug 2008
                • 5049

                #8
                Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

                Originally posted by ikestops85
                Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                Yesterday was the only game he looked bad playing. The others were not so much his fault as he was too busy picking his self up off the ground. It's a little early to be asking him to pick up his game. If he looks like this again next week (as he did vs Jacksonville)vs Arizona, then it may be time to be concerned.
                I was actually glad to see this thread when I came on the board this morning because I was thinking of starting one like it. There is something different with Ben's play this year. Yes, he has been under extreme duress because of offensive line problems. Yes, the running game hasn't done very well until lately. But for some reason Ben hasn't been making the key plays that he normally does.

                Ben has never been the most consistent QB in the league but he has always been the guy I want under center when the game is on the line. That really hasn't been the case this year and it's hard for me to put a finger on why. I know he drove us down the field to win the Indy game but other than that he hasn't looked like the Ben we've come to know and love.

                One of the things that sticks out to me is he has missed on passes to lots of wide open receivers. Many of them after he has pulled his Houdini act in the pocket to escape the rush. These types of plays have always been Ben's bread and butter but this year he seems to not be putting the finishing touch on those plays.

                The other problem is he is having long stretches where he is just inaccurate with his passes. Sunday's game was a good example of that. He started out on fire but then all of a sudden he misses a wide open Brown in the endzone, a wide open Miller down the middle, a wide open Sanders deep and a wide open Wallace deep.

                There are other games like this also going back to last years SB. In the season opener against the Ratbirds he started out in rhythm and accurate but then he started throwing some of the worst passes I have ever seen him throw.

                It would really be a shame if we don't make the playoffs this year since our schedule is so weak we should be able to walk in. But Ben is going to have to step up his game if to make the playoffs a possibility.
                I'd have to say that is pretty accurate. It may all come down to his foot injury. After he escapes the pass rush and is running around and misses a wide open receiver, it could come down to his foot hurting and he isnt able to set his foot or at least put enough pressure on it that it would require for an accurate pass. Anybody's guess is as good as mine, but I really believe that his foot is the main reason for his inconsisent play.
                2019 Mock

                1. ILB
                2. CB
                3. ILB
                4. S
                5. CB
                6. ILB
                7. S

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                • sentinel33
                  Backup
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 494

                  #9
                  Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

                  I agree with the title of this thread.

                  While he made some really nice throws in some tight holes, he blew some opportunitys as well. If first half Ben would have showed up in the second half, I don't think most of us would be fretting right now. That would have been two nice games in a row and it wouldve appeared like he was turning a corner. Rounding into mid season form, so to speak.

                  But that didnt happen, for whatever reason. The musical chairs on the Offensive line can't be helping his confidence, but regardless, he's gotta start putting together a full games worth of quality football on a consistent basis. One game off every now and then is ok, but he's not been the usual Ben. I think it was BH that stated it quite well in another thread.

                  It's frustrating cause thee guy has delivered big on many occasions in the past. Just don't want to sound ungrateful cause he is still one of the best in the league. Just not playing like it right now.

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                  • Sonny
                    Backup
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 133

                    #10
                    Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

                    He played an excellent first half. The Steelers always let up if they are blowing a bad team out

                    In his last couple games, he has played great in all but one half, and in that one half they were in turtle mode after looking like the best team in the league during the first half. Talk to me if he struggles these next two weeks against 2 sorry defenses.

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                    • Ghost
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 6338

                      #11
                      Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

                      Originally posted by Sonny
                      He played an excellent first half. The Steelers always let up if they are blowing a bad team out

                      In his last couple games, he has played great in all but one half, and in that one half they were in turtle mode after looking like the best team in the league during the first half. Talk to me if he struggles these next two weeks against 2 sorry defenses.
                      Maybe statistics wise it was a blow out, but 17-3 is far, far from a blowout in the NFL and we saw it yesterday. 14 points is nothing. And I don't think it was letting up as much as flat out bad play by the O in the second half. Ben was not good.

                      Losing to 1-4 AZ would be a disgrace.
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                      • steelblood
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 4166

                        #12
                        Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

                        The line here is below average. But, it is improving. The group of receivers Ben has are among the best in the league. He has a great situation. It is up to he and BA (let's not forget that Ben has as much influence on the game plan as any QB not named Brady or Manning) to take advantage of our strengths and hide our weaknesses. Will they come up with a plan to keep us in the New England and Baltimore games and give us a chance to win?
                        Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27531

                          #13
                          Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

                          Not buying the foot any other excuses... sometimes Ben gets in a funk and it's usually right after he has a 5TD, lights out kind of game...

                          I damn near predicted it in another thread but I didn't think it would happen this fast. I knew there would be another stretch of bad offense coming soon because we have them EVERY year.

                          I'm glad Ben is our QB but I'm not going to lie for him... the inconsistency has always been a problem but it's a problem I can live with. What's hard to live with is the constant excuses for his inconsistency.

                          Ben could have 5TD's next week and then turn around and miss wide open WR's 2 weeks later.
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                          • steelblood
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4166

                            #14
                            Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            Not buying the foot any other excuses... sometimes Ben gets in a funk and it's usually right after he has a 5TD, lights out kind of game...

                            I damn near predicted it in another thread but I didn't think it would happen this fast. I knew there would be another stretch of bad offense coming soon because we have them EVERY year.

                            I'm glad Ben is our QB but I'm not going to lie for him... the inconsistency has always been a problem but it's a problem I can live with. What's hard to live with is the constant excuses for his inconsistency.

                            Ben could have 5TD's next week and then turn around and miss wide open WR's 2 weeks later.
                            This is not a thread full of excuses. I think you imagining things a bit. People mentioned the foot as a possible issue, but few were saying that Ben has played well (even when you consider the injury). I'm a pretty realistic guy when it comes to Ben. I never thought he was that mature of guy, never thought he threw a great deep ball, still think he could get the ball out on time more often. But, I also recognize when an injury could have a significant effect on a passer. I don't know if you've ever tried to throw a football with a bum plant foot, but it is a factor. If you want to overlook such a possibility, you aren't being realistic.
                            Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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                            • SteelCrazy
                              Legend
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 5049

                              #15
                              Re: It’s time for Ben to step up his game

                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              Not buying the foot any other excuses... sometimes Ben gets in a funk and it's usually right after he has a 5TD, lights out kind of game...

                              I damn near predicted it in another thread but I didn't think it would happen this fast. I knew there would be another stretch of bad offense coming soon because we have them EVERY year.

                              I'm glad Ben is our QB but I'm not going to lie for him... the inconsistency has always been a problem but it's a problem I can live with. What's hard to live with is the constant excuses for his inconsistency.

                              Ben could have 5TD's next week and then turn around and miss wide open WR's 2 weeks later.
                              The foot injury isnt so much an excuse as it is a reality. It's his plant foot and that needs to be in good working condition to throw accurate passes. Circumstances can vary from week to week. Maybe he didnt get a shot for the pain this week or he wasnt able to rest it as well as the week before. Maybe, just maybe he injured it more last week like when he was hobbling to the sidelines. Or, it could be he was having an off day. He does that to, from time to time. All I know is he is a damn good QB and 25 (maybe more) other teams would cut their starter if they could have Ben.
                              2019 Mock

                              1. ILB
                              2. CB
                              3. ILB
                              4. S
                              5. CB
                              6. ILB
                              7. S

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