Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

[insanesteelersfan]

....I know some here after last night seemed to think given our O-Line play that Houston will kill Ben and us next weekend. But I kinda disagree.
First off lets look at some things. One, the Saints have a horrible defense, and secondary. That is why Houston put up 33 points more then anything.
Also, as good as Tate has been in games against the Dolphins and the Colts in week 1, the chances are that Tate might be benched next week for A.Foster's return. And there might be a good chance that Foster might be a bit rusty in his return. Also, take a look at Houston's O-Line. It's isn't exactly All-World either. Schaub gets alot of pressure on him. And their LT, Brown, he is the same LT that James Harrison " ABUSED " in the 2008 game with 3 sacks, and a whole lot more pressures. And maybe it's just me but, it seems each week James is getting stronger and stronger, and he MIGHT be primed for another big game against Brown.


Then of course there is the Troy factor. As in it looks like Troy is about to get into another one of his streaks where he is a PURE Rhythm breaker for the opposing teams offenses. Yes it's true the Texans have a very good DB in J.Josephs now, and it will be a battle with he and Wallace. But aside from him, Houston is light as well in the secondary, and Antonio Brown also seems to be in a good Rhythm right now.


Look, I KNOW the game will be tough. But I also believe that we have some definite advantages against them. We certainly must do better in stopping the run. But I feel our defense is a PROUD Bunch, and I don't feel like they will like hearing that they are done, and can be run over. It certainly won't be the end of the world if we do lose the game. But a W there could go a long way in restoring our overall confidence as the season continues.


Yeah yeah, we can ALL go on about certain points on last nights game, like our horrible O-Line blocking, both on Freeney & Mathis, as well as their rather bad Run-Blocking, but there is an old saying that goes..." There is NOTHING less Important to me then that which is BEHIND me ".....And last nights game IS Behind us, and it's behind us with a Road Win



So lets move on to Houston, and concentrate on the GOOD aspects, like James showing more strength, and Troy being in the " Zone ", rather then the shortcomings of a game that is, well...BEHIND us

[Steveo]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

I may still just be reeling from last night, but I think you give to much credit to our team this year. The defense you think is better than the Saints couldn’t stop the Colts running game, and lets be honest the only reason there passing game didn't burn us has more to do with their ineffectual QB play than anything we did (saw several drops by Indy that would have been TD's). As for our offense, right now I'm not sure how we can even compete if we can't score 20 points without turning the ball over and letting defenders have free shots at our QB. I truly do hope your right (don’t want to be a downer or right off the season), but right now I'm not seeing it.

[insanesteelersfan]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

I may still just be reeling from last night, but I think you give to much credit to our team this year. The defense you think is better than the Saints couldn’t stop the Colts running game, and lets be honest the only reason there passing game didn't burn us has more to do with their ineffectual QB play than anything we did (saw several drops by Indy that would have been TD's). As for our offense, right now I'm not sure how we can even compete if we can't score 20 points without turning the ball over and letting defenders have free shots at our QB. I truly do hope your right (don’t want to be a downer or right off the season), but right now I'm not seeing it.

You say that our defense is getting too much credit for holding their passing game in check, because Indy had alot of dropped passes. but then you call out our offense for not scoring, but fail to point out our OWN drops, like the sure TD that Sanders dropped. Or the two other passes that were easy catches, one to Brown and one to Wallace. If we don't miss a easy FG and Sanders makes that catch, we score an easy 30 points. How exactly is that a BAD Offense ?


Schaub is NOT All world my friend. We destroyed him and their team 2 years ago. And yes I know it's been two years, and they are at Home this time, but they do have shortcomings we can exploit.

[feltdizz]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

the only loss that is guaranteed is the NE loss... but I wouldn't be surprised if we lost to the Texans.

[insanesteelersfan]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

the only loss that is guaranteed is the NE loss... but I wouldn't be surprised if we lost to the Texans.

How is New England a Guaranteed loss ? So Buffalo CAN beat them at home, but we CAN'T ? Please explain that one.

[LouSteel]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

Buffalo beat NE by pouring on the defensive pressure.

When was the last time we played the Pats* and used a defensive gameplan that didn't involve ten yard cushions?

I don't think the NE game is a guaranteed loss by any means. But if we trot out the same old gameplan, I'm not expecting a win.

[Steveo]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

I may still just be reeling from last night, but I think you give to much credit to our team this year. The defense you think is better than the Saints couldn’t stop the Colts running game, and lets be honest the only reason there passing game didn't burn us has more to do with their ineffectual QB play than anything we did (saw several drops by Indy that would have been TD's). As for our offense, right now I'm not sure how we can even compete if we can't score 20 points without turning the ball over and letting defenders have free shots at our QB. I truly do hope your right (don’t want to be a downer or right off the season), but right now I'm not seeing it.

You say that our defense is getting too much credit for holding their passing game in check, because Indy had alot of dropped passes. but then you call out our offense for not scoring, but fail to point out our OWN drops, like the sure TD that Sanders dropped. Or the two other passes that were easy catches, one to Brown and one to Wallace. If we don't miss a easy FG and Sanders makes that catch, we score an easy 30 points. How exactly is that a BAD Offense ?


Schaub is NOT All world my friend. We destroyed him and their team 2 years ago. And yes I know it's been two years, and they are at Home this time, but they do have shortcomings we can exploit.

I couldn't agree more that the Texans like all NFL teams have shortcomings that can be exploited, and I will be watching the game and hoping to win on Sunday like everyone else. All I was trying to say is we aren't the team we were 2 years ago, right now either due to a lack of coaching, or a poor OL, and / or and aging d-fense we are struggling. The Texans offense right now is averaging about 30 points a game, against teams I would say have at least a moderate defense, where we are struggling to get even 20. Now pluses I took from last night are A.) Troy was looking more like Troy, B.) Even through adversity we were able to stick together enough to win (and a win is a win).

[JAR]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

Chicken Littleism at a pretty high level even though they’te 2-1.

[LouSteel]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

Chicken Littleism at a pretty high level even though they’te 2-1.

We struggled to put away a team that is now 0-3.

We could barely keep our franchise QB on his feet.

We let a QB that had a single digit passer coming into the game march down the field and tie the game.

We won, but it sure wasn't convincing.

I'm not concerned about the regular season -- this team should make the playoffs on the back of our incredibly weak schedule. What worries me is the playoffs.

[insanesteelersfan]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

I may still just be reeling from last night, but I think you give to much credit to our team this year. The defense you think is better than the Saints couldn’t stop the Colts running game, and lets be honest the only reason there passing game didn't burn us has more to do with their ineffectual QB play than anything we did (saw several drops by Indy that would have been TD's). As for our offense, right now I'm not sure how we can even compete if we can't score 20 points without turning the ball over and letting defenders have free shots at our QB. I truly do hope your right (don’t want to be a downer or right off the season), but right now I'm not seeing it.

They scored 34 against the Colts in week 1, when Collins hadn't even had 1 week of practice time as of yet. And in reality, they scored 27 points on offense, one of their TD's was a 79 yard punt return. We scored 23 last night. Should have been an easy 30 if Sanders doesn't drop a sure TD pass. And if our kicker doesn't miss a easy FG. So how exactly is that totally worse then Houston and their offense ? Look, I accept that we will be underdogs this weekend, and should be. But it won't be the slaughter that I think alot of OTHERS will feel it will be either.

You say that our defense is getting too much credit for holding their passing game in check, because Indy had alot of dropped passes. but then you call out our offense for not scoring, but fail to point out our OWN drops, like the sure TD that Sanders dropped. Or the two other passes that were easy catches, one to Brown and one to Wallace. If we don't miss a easy FG and Sanders makes that catch, we score an easy 30 points. How exactly is that a BAD Offense ?


Schaub is NOT All world my friend. We destroyed him and their team 2 years ago. And yes I know it's been two years, and they are at Home this time, but they do have shortcomings we can exploit.

I couldn't agree more that the Texans like all NFL teams have shortcomings that can be exploited, and I will be watching the game and hoping to win on Sunday like everyone else. All I was trying to say is we aren't the team we were 2 years ago, right now either due to a lack of coaching, or a poor OL, and / or and aging d-fense we are struggling. The Texans offense right now is averaging about 30 points a game, against teams I would say have at least a moderate defense, where we are struggling to get even 20. Now pluses I took from last night are A.) Troy was looking more like Troy, B.) Even through adversity we were able to stick together enough to win (and a win is a win).

[BURGH86STEEL]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

Buffalo beat NE by pouring on the defensive pressure.

When was the last time we played the Pats* and used a defensive gameplan that didn't involve ten yard cushions?

I don't think the NE game is a guaranteed loss by any means. But if we trot out the same old gameplan, I'm not expecting a win.

I believe they loss because Brady threw 4 INT's. It's debatable if those INT's were a result of pressure or poor passes by Brady. Pats defense didn't hold up their end of the bargain after being up by 3 TD's halfway through the 2nd QT.

[LouSteel]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

I believe they loss because Brady threw 4 INT's. It's debatable if those INT's were a result of pressure or poor passes by Brady. Pats defense didn't hold up their end of the bargain after being up by 3 TD's halfway through the 2nd QT.

The Pats D looks beyond awful.

If we can force turnovers, we've got a shot. But we're -9 in turnovers. I'm not holding my breath.

If we can't, we're going to have to outscore the Patriots. We're scoring 18 PPG to the Pats. They're scoring 34 on average. I'm not holding my breath.

[rockonsteel]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

Schaub is NOT All world my friend. We destroyed him and their team 2 years ago. And yes I know it's been two years, and they are at Home this time, but they do have shortcomings we can exploit.

And when was the last time the Steelers exploited the weakness of any team? Teams does it to the Steelers. The Steelers never do it back. Not the "Steeler" way. We just roll out our same plan with no adjustments. Whether it's the corners with a 10 yd. cushion on 3rd and 4 or empty backfield sets even when your line is being destroyed. So, I'm not real confident about them "exploiting" the Texans. If they somehow pull a win out of their a$$ in this one, it will be because they made more plays, but not necessarily because they exploited Houston's weakness. Never happens, why would they start now?

Rockon

[feltdizz]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

Buffalo beat NE by pouring on the defensive pressure.

When was the last time we played the Pats* and used a defensive gameplan that didn't involve ten yard cushions?

I don't think the NE game is a guaranteed loss by any means. But if we trot out the same old gameplan, I'm not expecting a win.

I believe they loss because Brady threw 4 INT's. It's debatable if those INT's were a result of pressure or poor passes by Brady. Pats defense didn't hold up their end of the bargain after being up by 3 TD's halfway through the 2nd QT.

Brady wasn't under defensive pressure when he threw those INT's... the only pressure he had was the Bills O putting up points in a hurry.

The passes weren't poor, the DB's were aggressive while the ball was in the air.

The real problem is Brady and Billicheat have one goal and that is to score a million points. They were running hurry up, no huddle offense while up by 18 points. This is why I'm not a fan of trying to pile on the points when up by a nice lead. At least running the ball burns clock and protect the rock. quick 3 and outs stop clock and can lead to INT's that swing momentum.

[Ghost]

Re: Houston game is NOT a Guaranteed loss fans....

The bigger concern is that this team, on both offense and defense, scares NO ONE. Teams are not concerned in the least about coming in and being dominated. The offense has the one of the worst o-lines in the league (and that was before injuries) and has no running game to speak of. And after watching a guy with a a single digit QB rating who proabaly took 10% of the practice snaps all week carve up the D for 80 yards at a critical time, most QB's are not even a tiny bit worried about playing the Steelers.

No game is a guranteed loss but how is your confidence when thinking about the Steelers getting into a good old fahioned shoot-out? The Texans O is much, much better than the hawks or colts.