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  • Sword
    Pro Bowler
    • Sep 2011
    • 2048

    Coach's Fail

    The big fail for Sunday's game, was Coach Tomlin not having the players ready......

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  • pfelix73
    Hall of Famer
    • Aug 2008
    • 3458

    #2
    Re: Coach's Fail

    Agreed. It was an entire team letdown, but yes, it does start with the coaching. You can add the OL coach OC, DC, and right down the line.....


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    • Steelhere10
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3849

      #3
      Re: Coach's Fail

      Like the old saying go... You cant coach speed, and we lack plenty of that
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      • steelblood
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4166

        #4
        Re: Coach's Fail

        Originally posted by Steelhere10
        Like the old saying go... You cant coach speed, and we lack plenty of that
        This team has speed. We don't use it well on offense though. Defensively we lost mostly because their patchwork o-line protected Flacco and dominated in the run game. Yanda ate Aaron Smith for lunch all day long. At the end of the game, Smith was helping Yanda up like he was his b***h.
        Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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        • aggiebones
          Pro Bowler
          • Jan 2009
          • 1427

          #5
          Re: Coach's Fail

          Yea, that's fine assuming you also gave Tomlin full credit for the SB rings.
          lol
          Yea, I didn't think so.

          Ravens have been stomping mad all offseason after we stole one in the playoffs. We clearly were a little off, but some guys are slow starters...especially Ben.
          They will get on track. That was so ridiculous of a game though. Wow. 7 turnovers are hard to fathom. Some were bad. Mendenhall should be GRILLED in the film sessions for how he was holding the ball.
          Ben was so far off, we either forget about the game or retire him. He was WAY off. But even Montana, Aikman, Bradshaw, Elway, Marino etc all have had bad games like that. Not comparing him to them. Just saying even the elite have had bad games.

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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #6
            Re: Coach's Fail

            Originally posted by aggiebones
            Yea, that's fine assuming you also gave Tomlin full credit for the SB rings.
            lol
            Yea, I didn't think so.

            Ravens have been stomping mad all offseason after we stole one in the playoffs. We clearly were a little off, but some guys are slow starters...especially Ben.
            They will get on track. That was so ridiculous of a game though. Wow. 7 turnovers are hard to fathom. Some were bad. Mendenhall should be GRILLED in the film sessions for how he was holding the ball.
            Ben was so far off, we either forget about the game or retire him. He was WAY off. But even Montana, Aikman, Bradshaw, Elway, Marino etc all have had bad games like that. Not comparing him to them. Just saying even the elite have had bad games.
            You are blaming Mendenhall for his fumble? He got blasted by a 330 lb. freight train at full speed before he ever even got the handoff from Ben.
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            • Jooser
              Legend
              • Jul 2008
              • 5102

              #7
              Re: Coach's Fail

              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              Originally posted by aggiebones
              Yea, that's fine assuming you also gave Tomlin full credit for the SB rings.
              lol
              Yea, I didn't think so.

              Ravens have been stomping mad all offseason after we stole one in the playoffs. We clearly were a little off, but some guys are slow starters...especially Ben.
              They will get on track. That was so ridiculous of a game though. Wow. 7 turnovers are hard to fathom. Some were bad. Mendenhall should be GRILLED in the film sessions for how he was holding the ball.
              Ben was so far off, we either forget about the game or retire him. He was WAY off. But even Montana, Aikman, Bradshaw, Elway, Marino etc all have had bad games like that. Not comparing him to them. Just saying even the elite have had bad games.
              You are blaming Mendenhall for his fumble? He got blasted by a 330 lb. freight train at full speed before he ever even got the handoff from Ben.
              and the fact that the Ben's hand-off was practically under Mendy's chin-strap.
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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #8
                Re: Coach's Fail

                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                Originally posted by aggiebones
                Yea, that's fine assuming you also gave Tomlin full credit for the SB rings.
                lol
                Yea, I didn't think so.

                Ravens have been stomping mad all offseason after we stole one in the playoffs. We clearly were a little off, but some guys are slow starters...especially Ben.
                They will get on track. That was so ridiculous of a game though. Wow. 7 turnovers are hard to fathom. Some were bad. Mendenhall should be GRILLED in the film sessions for how he was holding the ball.
                Ben was so far off, we either forget about the game or retire him. He was WAY off. But even Montana, Aikman, Bradshaw, Elway, Marino etc all have had bad games like that. Not comparing him to them. Just saying even the elite have had bad games.
                You are blaming Mendenhall for his fumble? He got blasted by a 330 lb. freight train at full speed before he ever even got the handoff from Ben.
                Not Mendy's fault at all. The snap was bad and the timing was ruined from the start. Legursky got owned.
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                • papillon
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 11340

                  #9
                  Re: Coach's Fail

                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  Originally posted by aggiebones
                  Yea, that's fine assuming you also gave Tomlin full credit for the SB rings.
                  lol
                  Yea, I didn't think so.

                  Ravens have been stomping mad all offseason after we stole one in the playoffs. We clearly were a little off, but some guys are slow starters...especially Ben.
                  They will get on track. That was so ridiculous of a game though. Wow. 7 turnovers are hard to fathom. Some were bad. Mendenhall should be GRILLED in the film sessions for how he was holding the ball.
                  Ben was so far off, we either forget about the game or retire him. He was WAY off. But even Montana, Aikman, Bradshaw, Elway, Marino etc all have had bad games like that. Not comparing him to them. Just saying even the elite have had bad games.
                  You are blaming Mendenhall for his fumble? He got blasted by a 330 lb. freight train at full speed before he ever even got the handoff from Ben.
                  Not Mendy's fault at all. The snap was bad and the timing was ruined from the start. Legursky got owned.
                  That play was a cluster F*** from the start to the end and Mendenhall paid the price for all the screw ups. Legursky needs to apologize for completely missing a player that weighs 330 pounds.

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                  • BURGH86STEEL
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 6921

                    #10
                    Re: Coach's Fail

                    Coaches bear some responsibility for the loss. I feel that the players failed the coaches because the players didn't do their jobs on the field. Players get most of the glory for wins and bear most of the responsibility for losses.

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                    • ramblinjim
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1278

                      #11
                      Re: Coach's Fail

                      Let's also not forget that this was a 12-4 team last year, that gave us all we wanted the three times we played them last year, with an excellent D-line. Of course, the day we played terrible against them we get destroyed. You have seven turnovers against Cleveland and get beat, put that kind of game together against Baltimore and get stomped.
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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27532

                        #12
                        Re: Coach's Fail

                        Mendenhall isn't to blame but I also saw the football move on a hit later in the game. If he didn't hit the ground so fast he would have fumbled that one too...

                        He needs to get high and tight because I think the word is out on his ball handling skills after the SB.

                        Ben should have ate that hand off... that whole sequence was a disaster.
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                        • rockonsteel
                          Backup
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 215

                          #13
                          Re: Coach's Fail

                          Originally posted by papillon
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                          Originally posted by aggiebones
                          Yea, that's fine assuming you also gave Tomlin full credit for the SB rings.
                          lol
                          Yea, I didn't think so.

                          Ravens have been stomping mad all offseason after we stole one in the playoffs. We clearly were a little off, but some guys are slow starters...especially Ben.
                          They will get on track. That was so ridiculous of a game though. Wow. 7 turnovers are hard to fathom. Some were bad. Mendenhall should be GRILLED in the film sessions for how he was holding the ball.
                          Ben was so far off, we either forget about the game or retire him. He was WAY off. But even Montana, Aikman, Bradshaw, Elway, Marino etc all have had bad games like that. Not comparing him to them. Just saying even the elite have had bad games.
                          You are blaming Mendenhall for his fumble? He got blasted by a 330 lb. freight train at full speed before he ever even got the handoff from Ben.
                          Not Mendy's fault at all. The snap was bad and the timing was ruined from the start. Legursky got owned.
                          That play was a cluster F*** from the start to the end and Mendenhall paid the price for all the screw ups. Legursky needs to apologize for completely missing a player that weighs 330 pounds.

                          Pappy
                          I seriously think Legursky "wanted" to miss him. Big Ngata is a beast and a half, and I'm sure Legs wasn't exactly running from the huddle frothing at the mouth play after play to have block Nata. He didn't even look in that direction, almost like he was giving himself plausible deniability. Definitely not a good look.



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                          • rockonsteel
                            Backup
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 215

                            #14
                            Re: Coach's Fail

                            Originally posted by aggiebones
                            Yea, that's fine assuming you also gave Tomlin full credit for the SB rings.
                            lol
                            Yea, I didn't think so.
                            I am one person who gives Tomlin full credit for the SB ring(no "s", the other was Cowher. Much the same I give Cowher full credit for that SB, and full blame for the disaster of a season that followed when he went thru the motions.). But, Tomlin absolutely has to wear 50% of the blame for this one. He did not have his team ready at all, from the first play of the game to the last. They didn't just get outplayed, they got annihialated all over the field. They looked unprepared, disinterested, uninspired and confused. And they played like it too. It's Mike's job to have this team ready to play, and he failed in a big way yesterday. Period. Did the players sh!t the bed? No doubt, everybody, but Mike and Ike. One on each side of the ball. That's not gonna cut it.

                            So, Mike has got to wear this debacle. And he now has the tall task of making sure this season doesn't become another post-SB apocalypse.



                            Rockon

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                            • Djfan
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 5184

                              #15
                              Re: Coach's Fail

                              On that running play, the ball was snapped early. That is why Ben was not prepared to handle it correctly, and Legursky wasn't prepared to block. That one is on Pouncey.

                              As for the coaching, I have to agree to some degree. It seems that Baltimore came out of the preseason with a team built to beat the Steelers. The researched and planned to have that type of a team. It was intentional.

                              On the other hand, our coaches seem to think that they can continue to "play our game" and see what happens. I haven't heard them say this lately, but it looks to be this way. I also didn't see any half time adjustments at all.

                              One more, with the talent on this offense we should have schemed to play them to the Nth degree, which I didn't see. To me the receiving corps was ignored for their talent until we were way down. It gave us the good drive we had that ended in a pick.
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