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  • AngryAsian
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3010

    #31
    Re: Steelers sign Troy

    The Steelers need to be careful with this approach if Wallace has another great year. Another team could very well be willing to give up a first round pick and pay large dollars for a WR that is already an 85%-90% finished product rather than taking a "chance" and drafting a 1st round WR that needs to be developed into an NFL quality WR.

    I'd rather they get him signed and be done with it. The Steelers hit the jackpot with Wallace, don't throw it away and I'm sure Kahn and Colbert will do just that.

    Pappy[/quote]

    I agree, Pap... but all Mike need and do is look at Tennessee's Nate Washington. With regards to his position, he needs to realize that the only team willing to fork out that kind of cash, is an up and comer, and after going to the big dance last year and the tradition that envelope this team, I doubt he'd want to go elsewhere. ARE is another receiver that I'm sure will serve as a warning.

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    • papillon
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 11340

      #32
      Re: Steelers sign Troy

      Originally posted by AngryAsian
      The Steelers need to be careful with this approach if Wallace has another great year. Another team could very well be willing to give up a first round pick and pay large dollars for a WR that is already an 85%-90% finished product rather than taking a "chance" and drafting a 1st round WR that needs to be developed into an NFL quality WR.

      I'd rather they get him signed and be done with it. The Steelers hit the jackpot with Wallace, don't throw it away and I'm sure Kahn and Colbert will do just that.

      Pappy
      I agree, Pap... but all Mike need and do is look at Tennessee's Nate Washington. With regards to his position, he needs to realize that the only team willing to fork out that kind of cash, is an up and comer, and after going to the big dance last year and the tradition that envelope this team, I doubt he'd want to go elsewhere. ARE is another receiver that I'm sure will serve as a warning.[/quote]

      And, typically, up and comers are desperate and will throw ridiculous amounts of money at free agents, restricted or not to try and improve, particularly if the coach is on the hot seat.

      if it were me, I just don't think I'd leave too much to chance if possible.

      Pappy
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      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

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      • steelblood
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4166

        #33
        Re: Steelers sign Troy

        I don't know if the tender levels will be the same as the old CBA, but if they are, we would give mike the highest possible tender. This means that another team would have to give up a 1st, a 3rd, AND pay Mike top dollar to sign him. I don't think any team would do this. It would be a very steep price for one player. Also, if we are really worried about losing Mike, we can franchise him (though I don't recommend this).

        Mike is a great player, but his greatness is TOTALLY based on his speed. His hands and route running are average to good, but not great. IF he is injured this season or next in any way that has a long term effect on his speed, his value will plummet. It is wise and cost effective for the Steelers to let him play out this season and give him the high tender next season while we begin negotiations. The Steelers hold all the cards here. They can offer Mike a moderate contract next season (like 3 years 18 mil) that won't break the bank. Mike will have to consider this because it will get him very good money in 2012 instead of him playing out another season at 1.5 mil per and risking his future.
        Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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        • Slapstick
          Rookie
          • May 2008
          • 0

          #34
          Re: Steelers sign Troy

          In the past CBA, a team had the option to tender a player with two first round draft picks as compensation...

          They could also secure exclusive negotiating rights with that player...
          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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          • Steeler Shades
            Starter
            • May 2008
            • 724

            #35
            Re: Steelers sign Troy

            I'd sure like to see Troy stay healthy for a couple of complete seasons. When was the last season that he played without missing a game?
            Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #36
              Re: Steelers sign Troy

              Originally posted by Steeler Shades
              I'd sure like to see Troy stay healthy for a couple of complete seasons. When was the last season that he played without missing a game?
              The last two seasons we won Super Bowls.
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • Steeler Shades
                Starter
                • May 2008
                • 724

                #37
                Re: Steelers sign Troy

                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                The last two seasons we won Super Bowls.
                He only played two complete seasons of the last six...or do I have the math incorrect?
                Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

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                • RuthlessBurgher
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #38
                  Re: Steelers sign Troy

                  Originally posted by Steeler Shades
                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  The last two seasons we won Super Bowls.
                  He only played two complete seasons of the last six...or do I have the math incorrect?
                  Troy started all 16 games 3 times in his career. Ben's rookie year (15-1) and the SBXL and SBXLIII seasons.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • fordfixer
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 10921

                    #39
                    Re: Steelers sign Troy

                    Staying with Steelers was Polamalu's goal

                    By Teresa Varley - Steelers.com

                    [url="http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Staying-with-Steelers-was-Polamalus-goal/86deb62a-4b09-42c4-ab18-c97b55736e0f"]http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/ ... 7b55736e0f[/url]

                    Troy Polamalu quietly sat back and watched as LaMarr Woodley, Lawrence Timmons and Ike Taylor signed contract extensions since the start of training camp. He never said anything, other than how happy he was for his teammates, singing their praises and talking about how valuable each is to the defense.

                    He never complained that while their deals were done, his wasn’t. When it came to talking about his own contact, Polamalu respectfully declined answering questions, instead keeping any talks that were taking place between his agent and the team.

                    Many thought maybe the deal wouldn’t get done before the 2011 season kicked off, maybe Polamalu would become a free agent at the end of the year.

                    Polamalu wasn’t among those thinking that way. In his heart, he didn’t want to go anywhere, didn’t want to leave Pittsburgh. And the Steelers didn’t want him going anywhere either.

                    The two sides agreed to a four-year extension on the eve of the 2011 season, with Polamalu signing the new deal that will keep him in black and gold through the 2014 season at Pittsburgh International Airport shortly before leaving for Baltimore to take on the Ravens.

                    “It’s been a goal of mine since I was a rookie. I was hoping to always play for one organization,” said Polamalu. “It shows the level of commitment on both ends from the ownership to the player.

                    “It’s loyalty on two parts; it’s not a one-way street. The first meeting that I had with Mr. (Art) Rooney I explained to him how loyal I am to this organization, how much I want to retire a Pittsburgh Steeler and how anxious I am to get it done. I am honored and blessed and thank God to be able to be coming back the next four years and retire a Pittsburgh Steeler.”

                    Polamalu was the 2010 NFL Defensive Player of the Year, finishing the season with seven interceptions, 64 tackles and a sack. He has a knack for coming out of nowhere to make a play, constantly getting into the mindset of opposing quarterbacks and wreaking all kinds of havoc on the field.

                    But get him away from the field and the soft-spoken Polamalu always defers any praise bestowed upon him to his teammates and coaches, people he is fiercely loyal to and didn’t want to leave.

                    “Most importantly I am loyal to my brothers in the locker room, to a great head coach, and maybe the greatest coach of all-time, Coach (Dick) LeBeau, who is our father figure,” said Polamalu. “I am loyal to them. Of course with the Rooney family and the organization they have created around here, the family environment that we have. It’s unlike anything I could experience anywhere else.

                    “To me it’s always been an organization of loyalty, humility and blue collar. When you say blue collar it epitomizes all of those virtues. It’s where I have come from, growing up in Oregon, growing up less fortunate in California. It falls in line with a lot of the values I have been raised with.”

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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #40
                      Re: Steelers sign Troy

                      “Most importantly I am loyal to my brothers in the locker room, to a great head coach, and maybe the greatest coach of all-time, Coach (bad word) LeBeau, who is our father figure,” said Polamalu. “I am loyal to them. Of course with the Rooney family and the organization they have created around here, the family environment that we have. It’s unlike anything I could experience anywhere else.
                      Someone needs to inform Troy that LeBeau is now a washed-up has-been of a coach.
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                      • kiwi_sarah
                        Backup
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 240

                        #41
                        Re: Steelers sign Troy

                        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher

                        Someone needs to inform Troy that LeBeau is now a washed-up has-been of a coach.
                        oh lord. I obviously need to read the board more often, the is going right over my head ATM lol

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                        • papillon
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 11340

                          #42
                          Re: Steelers sign Troy

                          Originally posted by kiwi_sarah
                          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher

                          Someone needs to inform Troy that LeBeau is now a washed-up has-been of a coach.
                          oh lord. I obviously need to read the board more often, the is going right over my head ATM lol
                          Yes, you absolutely need to read the board more often, so that, you're in the know about dysfunctional family known as PlanetSteelers. Good to hear from you

                          Pappy
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                          The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                          1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                          3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                          3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                          5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                          7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                          "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                          • kiwi_sarah
                            Backup
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 240

                            #43
                            Re: Steelers sign Troy

                            Originally posted by papillon
                            Originally posted by kiwi_sarah
                            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher

                            Someone needs to inform Troy that LeBeau is now a washed-up has-been of a coach.
                            oh lord. I obviously need to read the board more often, the is going right over my head ATM lol
                            Yes, you absolutely need to read the board more often, so that, you're in the know about dysfunctional family known as PlanetSteelers. Good to hear from you

                            Pappy
                            Thanks Pappy. I have a feeling reading the board more might lead to an increase in my vodka consumption. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

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