I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Re: I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

It always amazes me when something like this has to turn into a Steeler vs. Steeler debate. Ben owes his SB43 win to James - no, Ben saved the D......why can't it be a team effort?

Right now, two of the greatest highlights in SB history belong to those men - as well as the other players who helped make their plays possible. Tone's toe tapping catch (although he did drop an easier ball just one or two plays earlier), the multitude of blockers out front of Harrison on his return. Neither of those plays are possible without their teammates.

[feltdizz]

Re: I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

It always amazes me when something like this has to turn into a Steeler vs. Steeler debate. Ben owes his SB43 win to James - no, Ben saved the D......why can't it be a team effort?

Right now, two of the greatest highlights in SB history belong to those men - as well as the other players who helped make their plays possible. Tone's toe tapping catch (although he did drop an easier ball just one or two plays earlier), the multitude of blockers out front of Harrison on his return. Neither of those plays are possible without their teammates.

True..

but the first pass wasn't easier... both were hard to make. I'm sure Tone was tired as well given the amount of touches he had on the last drive.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Re: I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

It always amazes me when something like this has to turn into a Steeler vs. Steeler debate. Ben owes his SB43 win to James - no, Ben saved the D......why can't it be a team effort?

Right now, two of the greatest highlights in SB history belong to those men - as well as the other players who helped make their plays possible. Tone's toe tapping catch (although he did drop an easier ball just one or two plays earlier), the multitude of blockers out front of Harrison on his return. Neither of those plays are possible without their teammates.

True..

but the first pass wasn't easier... both were hard to make. I'm sure Tone was tired as well given the amount of touches he had on the last drive.

Thats fine, but the point is that neither Holmes nor Ben is remembered for this memorable play without the other, the same way that JH does not finish off the greatest defensive play in SB history without an entire defensive team effort to block for him.

[grotonsteel]

Re: I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

James makes it up to Ben, by keeping him in the game until the end where he can pull it out.

As much as I love Ben, this offense has been mediocre for years and often plays to the level of the competition and never really puts the pedal to the medal and puts a game out of reach. We just stay in games (primarily thanks to our D) and Ben wins it in the end.

Mediocre offense??? Really?? What do you want 50 points a game??? If Steelers don't run the ball 50 times a game and half the Steeler Nation goes up against Bruce Arians. Maybe you are a fantasy football fanatic. Steelers have invested heavily on Defense and they expect Defense to show up more than Offense.

A Offensive Line with a rookie Center. Missing both Offensive tackles and an UDFA RG. 2 Rookie WRs what do you expect an Offensive juggernaut??

ESPN.com: Stats & Info

Wednesday, July 13, 2011
Harrison Wrong About Roethlisberger
By Jason Vida


Mike Ehrmann/Getty ImagesBen Roethlisberger thrives under pressure

After capping a stellar season with a subpar performance in Super Bowl XLV, it’s understandable if James Harrison and the rest of the Pittsburgh Steelers are less-than-happy about the way the 2010 season ended.

But after James Harrison’s comments to Men’s Journal, it’s tough to imagine the mood will be any lighter when Steelers training camp opens this summer. Speaking of teammate Ben Roethlisberger's play in Super Bowl XLV, Harrison said:

"Hey, at least throw a pick on their side of the field instead of asking the D to bail you out again. Or hand the ball off and stop trying to act like
Peyton Manning. You ain't that and you know it, man; you just get paid like he does."

It’s doubtful that the fact that Roethlisberger’s second interception of the game came on a play that started on the Packers 49-yard line, technically “their side of the field” will make Harrison reconsider his comments.

Ben Roethlisberger
In Own Territory Last Season

Rank
Comp pct 72.1 3rd
Yds per att 10.3 1st
Passer rtg 103.7 1st
Int 3 T-3rd
>>min. 100 att

But Big Ben’s unparalleled ability to lead the Steelers out of their own territory in the regular season should.

In 2010, Roethlisberger not only didn’t ask the Steelers defense to bail him out frequently, he was arguably the best quarterback in the league at helping his team reverse field position when backed up against its own goal line.

Roethlisberger completed 147 of 204 passes for 2,094 yards with three TDs and three interceptions in his own territory last season. His 103.7 passer rating here is even more impressive when one considers the difficulty in throwing touchdowns on plays that originate at least 51 yards from the end zone.

Of the 33 quarterbacks who threw at least 100 passes in their own territory last regular season, none had a better passer rating on those attempts than Roethlisberger, and his 10 yards per attempt on these passes was also best in the NFL.

Just three of Roethlisberger’s 204 passes from his own end were intercepted last season, an interception percentage of 1.47 percent. Only three of the 33 QBs mentioned above had a lower interception of percentage in their own territory – Josh Freeman, Tom Brady and Alex Smith.

In Own Territory Last Season

Roethlisberger Manning
Comp pct 72.1 68.5
Yds per att 10.3 7.1
Passer rtg 103.7 78.4
Int 3 12<<
>>T-4th most in NFL

Harrison also made the comment that Roethlisberger is trying to emulate Peyton Manning with his play in his own territory. In fact, he’s been much better than the Indianapolis Colts future Hall-of-Famer in such situations.

Twelve of Manning’s 17 interceptions last season came on the Colts side of the field, more than all but three other NFL quarterbacks. And Manning’s passer rating in his own territory was 78.4, a full 25 points behind Big Ben’s.

The stats show that Roethlisberger has been a better quarterback than Manning in his own territory. If Harrison is tired of his defense being asked to bail out the Steelers offense time and time again, he should be thankful that Ben is no Peyton. He’s only paid like him.

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

Ur right felt. I was wrong about 47

I was thinking of 29 coming up on the pump to memo and creating a bigger gap for Holmes to go thru

[Captain Lemming]

Re: I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

James makes it up to Ben, by keeping him in the game until the end where he can pull it out.

As much as I love Ben, this offense has been mediocre for years and often plays to the level of the competition and never really puts the pedal to the medal and puts a game out of reach. We just stay in games (primarily thanks to our D) and Ben wins it in the end.

Mediocre offense??? Really?? What do you want 50 points a game??? If Steelers don't run the ball 50 times a game and half the Steeler Nation goes up against Bruce Arians. Maybe you are a fantasy football fanatic. Steelers have invested heavily on Defense and they expect Defense to show up more than Offense.

A Offensive Line with a rookie Center. Missing both Offensive tackles and an UDFA RG. 2 Rookie WRs what do you expect an Offensive juggernaut??

ESPN.com: Stats & Info

Wednesday, July 13, 2011
Harrison Wrong About Roethlisberger
By Jason Vida


Mike Ehrmann/Getty ImagesBen Roethlisberger thrives under pressure

After capping a stellar season with a subpar performance in Super Bowl XLV, it’s understandable if James Harrison and the rest of the Pittsburgh Steelers are less-than-happy about the way the 2010 season ended.

But after James Harrison’s comments to Men’s Journal, it’s tough to imagine the mood will be any lighter when Steelers training camp opens this summer. Speaking of teammate Ben Roethlisberger's play in Super Bowl XLV, Harrison said:

"Hey, at least throw a pick on their side of the field instead of asking the D to bail you out again. Or hand the ball off and stop trying to act like
Peyton Manning. You ain't that and you know it, man; you just get paid like he does."

It’s doubtful that the fact that Roethlisberger’s second interception of the game came on a play that started on the Packers 49-yard line, technically “their side of the field” will make Harrison reconsider his comments.

Ben Roethlisberger
In Own Territory Last Season

Rank
Comp pct 72.1 3rd
Yds per att 10.3 1st
Passer rtg 103.7 1st
Int 3 T-3rd
>>min. 100 att

But Big Ben’s unparalleled ability to lead the Steelers out of their own territory in the regular season should.

In 2010, Roethlisberger not only didn’t ask the Steelers defense to bail him out frequently, he was arguably the best quarterback in the league at helping his team reverse field position when backed up against its own goal line.

Roethlisberger completed 147 of 204 passes for 2,094 yards with three TDs and three interceptions in his own territory last season. His 103.7 passer rating here is even more impressive when one considers the difficulty in throwing touchdowns on plays that originate at least 51 yards from the end zone.

Of the 33 quarterbacks who threw at least 100 passes in their own territory last regular season, none had a better passer rating on those attempts than Roethlisberger, and his 10 yards per attempt on these passes was also best in the NFL.

Just three of Roethlisberger’s 204 passes from his own end were intercepted last season, an interception percentage of 1.47 percent. Only three of the 33 QBs mentioned above had a lower interception of percentage in their own territory – Josh Freeman, Tom Brady and Alex Smith.

In Own Territory Last Season

Roethlisberger Manning
Comp pct 72.1 68.5
Yds per att 10.3 7.1
Passer rtg 103.7 78.4
Int 3 12<<
>>T-4th most in NFL

Harrison also made the comment that Roethlisberger is trying to emulate Peyton Manning with his play in his own territory. In fact, he’s been much better than the Indianapolis Colts future Hall-of-Famer in such situations.

Twelve of Manning’s 17 interceptions last season came on the Colts side of the field, more than all but three other NFL quarterbacks. And Manning’s passer rating in his own territory was 78.4, a full 25 points behind Big Ben’s.

The stats show that Roethlisberger has been a better quarterback than Manning in his own territory. If Harrison is tired of his defense being asked to bail out the Steelers offense time and time again, he should be thankful that Ben is no Peyton. He’s only paid like him.

Clearly the facts make his Harrison's case (if they are taken very literally and out of context ).

Throwing picks in your own territory IS acting like Peyton Manning.

Ben YOU ARE NOT Peyton Manning!!!!

STOP trying to be Peyton Manning.

[Captain Lemming]

Re: I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

It always amazes me when something like this has to turn into a Steeler vs. Steeler debate. Ben owes his SB43 win to James - no, Ben saved the D......why can't it be a team effort?

Right now, two of the greatest highlights in SB history belong to those men - as well as the other players who helped make their plays possible. Tone's toe tapping catch (although he did drop an easier ball just one or two plays earlier), the multitude of blockers out front of Harrison on his return. Neither of those plays are possible without their teammates.

You are absolutely correct. Ben was a hero that day. I guess my point is that you cannot make the case that Harrison of all people not forget how Ben saved the game when Harrison so directly contributed to Ben being in the position to win.

Both deserve credit.

[feltdizz]

Re: I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

Ur right felt. I was wrong about 47

I was thinking of 29 coming up on the pump to memo and creating a bigger gap for Holmes to go thru

no worries

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

Keisel defends Harrison

July 26th, 2011


Anyone that thinks the Steelers seriously entertained getting rid of James Harrison for comments made during his infamous interview with Men’s Journal magazine was seriously off base.

Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel illustrated why Tuesday.

When told that Harrison was one of the first Steelers at the team facility Tuesday –- and he may well have been the first one there -– Keisel was anything but surprised.

“He’s one of hardest working guys I’ve ever been around in my life, which is why he’s one of the best players I’ve ever been around in my life,” Keisel said.

Keisel also dismissed any talk of Harrison’s comments about Ben Roethlisberger and Rashard Mendenhall causing a rift in the Steelers’ locker room.

“I think his words got misinterpreted. I think mix and match quotes maybe,” Keisel said.

“I haven't talked to James about it or to Ben about it or to Rashard about it. I think all those guys know that James would never do something like that to criticize his own teammates. I think it just got misinterpreted and we'll move forward.”

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[Captain Lemming]

Re: I Finally Read the James Harrison Article

Keisel defends Harrison

July 26th, 2011


Anyone that thinks the Steelers seriously entertained getting rid of James Harrison for comments made during his infamous interview with Men’s Journal magazine was seriously off base.

Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel illustrated why Tuesday.

When told that Harrison was one of the first Steelers at the team facility Tuesday –- and he may well have been the first one there -– Keisel was anything but surprised.

“He’s one of hardest working guys I’ve ever been around in my life, which is why he’s one of the best players I’ve ever been around in my life,” Keisel said.

Keisel also dismissed any talk of Harrison’s comments about Ben Roethlisberger and Rashard Mendenhall causing a rift in the Steelers’ locker room.

“I think his words got misinterpreted. I think mix and match quotes maybe,” Keisel said.

“I haven't talked to James about it or to Ben about it or to Rashard about it. I think all those guys know that James would never do something like that to criticize his own teammates. I think it just got misinterpreted and we'll move forward.”

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Keisel is a great spokesman for the team. Dude always says it just right.