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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
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    Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

    Overrated-underrated: Polamalu can't cover; Pack's Williams can

    By Pete Prisco
    CBSSports.com Senior Writer
    June 9, 2011



    They love the signature hair flying out from his helmet. They love the highlight hits that make the fools on some four-letter network swoon and yell "jacked up."

    They love his name. They love his game.

    Troy Polamalu is an NFL darling.

    He's also the league's most-overrated player.


    There, I said it.

    He was selected as the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year in 2010 -- an award I couldn't figure out -- and then disappeared in the playoffs, even getting trucked by Ray Rice of the Ravens in the playoffs.

    He was a spinning top in the Super Bowl, trying to cover Packers receivers and instead watched them rip off big gains and two touchdowns on his watch.

    The Packers exposed the reason I think Polamalu is overrated. He isn't great in coverage and the NFL is now a cover game.

    He's a good player. He's just not great.

    I've always believed he was a gambler in the back end, and good teams and smart quarterbacks could take advantage of his aggressive style, which the Packers and Aaron Rodgers did. He gets away with it against bad quarterbacks, but good ones can use his aggressive style to their advantage (See Tom Brady).

    They say Polamalu had a groin issue in the playoffs, but if you're on the field, you're healthy enough to take the heat. And haven't injuries been an issue for him the past five seasons? He has played 16 games only once in five years.

    That has to mean something in the rating game, doesn't it?

    He's good. I just don't think he's great. That makes him overrated. I bet even some Steelers fans would concur after the playoffs.

    So who's the league's most underrated?

    The honor goes to a former undrafted player cut by his first team named Tramon Williams. He was the best cover player for the Super Bowl champs last year, even though most would assume it was Charles Woodson.

    Talk to scouts, personnel people and even members of the Packers coaching staff and they'll all say that it's Williams who is now the better cover player. Woodson is still a ball-hawking playmaker, but he isn't the cover corner Williams is at this point in his career.

    Yet Williams didn't go to the Pro Bowl.

    Williams isn't mentioned on many lists as one of the top 10 corners in the game.

    Williams gets slighted more than he gets beat.

    That makes him the NFL's most underrated player.

    Coverage is key now. That's why Williams is underrated and why Polamalu is overrated.

    Now here's an underrated and overrated player for each of the league's 32 teams.

    Arizona Cardinals

    Overrated: DB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. He has the tools to be a star. But he lacks the consistency. He needs to be more focused.

    Underrated: S Kerry Rhodes. He came over from the Jets and played better than Adrian Wilson, the more-heralded Cardinals safety, did in 2010. Rhodes was a nice addition.

    Atlanta Falcons

    Overrated: TE Tony Gonzalez. He was ranked in the top 50 of NFL Network's top 100 players in 2011. What? He can't run anymore. And it shows.

    Underrated: CB Brent Grimes. Yeah, he was a Pro Bowl fill-in, but he was better than that. Dunta Robinson got the big contract, but he was nearly as good as Grimes last season.

    Baltimore Ravens

    Overrated: WR Anquan Boldin. I've been putting him in this spot for a long time. Did you watch the playoffs? He can't run. They say he's a No. 1 receiver. Yeah, right.

    Underrated: CB Josh Wilson. When the Ravens traded to get him from Seattle, the idea was he would be a backup. But he was their best cover player in the second half of the season. Now he's a free agent who could get some decent money.

    Buffalo Bills

    Overrated: WR Lee Evans. He was in this spot last year and gets it again after having only 37 catches last season. The Bills sure haven't received the bang for their buck after giving him a big contract.

    Underrated: DT Kyle Williams. He doesn't have a ton of physical tools, but he's a fighter who makes the most of what he does have.

    Carolina Panthers

    Overrated: TE Jeremy Shockey. Is he better than what they had? Yes. But he isn't close to being as good as his reputation.

    Underrated: OLB James Anderson. He doesn't get the attention that Jon Beason gets, nor is he in that class, but he's a good football player.

    Chicago Bears

    Overrated: WR Devin Hester. I hate to go back to a guy I picked last year, but let's be real. He had 40 catches last season and he isn't a real factor as a kickoff return man anymore. He can still excel as a punt returner, but that doesn't make him a star -- just a return man.

    Underrated: S Danieal Manning. He is a former corner who has made a nice move to safety. His range really shows up on tape as he has the speed to get to a lot of footballs.

    Cincinnati Bengals

    Overrated: LB Keith Rivers. When you watch the Bengals play, you just expect more from a top-10 pick. Rivers is solid. But that's not why you draft a guy in the top 10. He was second on the team in tackles, but he disappears at times.

    Underrated: T Andrew Whitworth. At times, he is a force. He is big, strong and can dominate in the run game. He has some issues with speed rushers, but played well in 2010.

    Cleveland Browns

    Overrated: WR-KR Josh Cribbs. I know he played with a foot injury last season, but his numbers were way down. Yet you would think he was a superstar the way they rave about the guy.

    Underrated: NT Ahtyba Rubin. He started 16 games last season and emerged as one of the Browns' better defensive players last season. At 330 pounds and 24 years of age, he has a bright future.

    Dallas Cowboys

    Overrated: C Andre Gurode. He went to the Pro Bowl last season. How? He was really bad. Just ask Dallas' scouts and coaches.

    Underrated: LT Doug Free. He was their best lineman last season after being the team's biggest question mark heading into the year.

    Denver Broncos

    Overrated: QB Tim Tebow. Can we please slow this slobber-fest down? Watch his rookie tape. He was a run-around quarterback who rarely got to the second read. There's a reason John Elway doubted him when he took over. Tebow is the anti-Elway playing the position.

    Underrated: LB D.J. Williams. He's a tackling machine. He knows how to get to the football and can play inside or outside. He has some off-field problems, which have hurt his reputation some.

    Detroit Lions

    Overrated: DE Kyle Vanden Bosch. They paid a ton of money to sign him and he had four sacks. Oh, boy. He was bothered by injuries some, but the Lions need more than four sacks for the money they paid him.

    Underrated: DE Cliff Avril. He has the speed teams love off the edge, and it started to show up in a big way last season, with Avril getting 8 1/2 sacks.

    Green Bay Packers

    Overrated: S Nick Collins. He is a good tackler, but he has trouble in coverage at times. There's no way he should have been All-Pro last season.

    Underrated: Tramon Williams. (see above) Want to bet he goes to the Pro Bowl in 2012? He's a great story in perseverance, going from undrafted player, being cut by Houston, then to nickel corner and then to top starter.

    Houston Texans

    Overrated: ILB Brian Cushing. After an impressive rookie season, which earned him NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year honors, he missed four weeks in 2010 for violating the league's policy on performance-enhancing drugs. When he returned, he wasn't the same player he was as a rookie.

    Underrated: G Wade Smith. The Texans got him last season as a free agent to compete for a job and he ended up being one of their best players. Smith is a big reason why Arian Foster led the league in rushing.

    Indianapolis Colts

    Overrated: RT Ryan Diem. He never gets blamed like the left tackle, but he's part of the problem in protection. He has real trouble with speed rushers.

    Underrated: S Antoine Bethea. He was the glue of the secondary last season when injuries shelved all the players around him. He is a free agent, whom the Colts will bring back.

    Jacksonville Jaguars

    Overrated: QB David Garrard. Serviceable? Barely. Manages the game? So what? This guy got $60 million three years ago. Ouch.

    Underrated: DT Terrance Knighton. For the first 12 games last season, he played as good as an inside player not named Suh. But he let his weight get too high and it showed up late. Even so, he's got star potential.

    Kansas City Chiefs

    Overrated: QB Matt Cassel. I know he did some good things last season, but I think the real Cassel showed up in the playoff loss to the Ravens.

    Underrated: CB Brandon Carr. I really like Brandon Flowers, the other corner, but this kid came on strong late last season. The 2012 season might be his chance to break out.

    Miami Dolphins

    Overrated: T Vernon Carey. At times, he has been one of the team's underrated players. But he didn't play well in 2010. He needs to pick it up.

    Underrated: NT Paul Soliai. He was expected to be a backup when the season started, but played well enough in camp to earn the starting job and was dominant by the end of the year. The Dolphins franchised him after the season.

    Minnesota Vikings

    Overrated: DE Jared Allen. He is good, just not as good as advertised. He played poorly early on last season, but played better late. Is age becoming an issue?

    Underrated: OLB Chad Greenway. I know they tagged him, which shows his value, but he doesn't get the attention he deserves. He's a tackling machine.

    New England Patriots

    Overrated: S Brandon Meriweather. He is a problem when it comes to coverage, yet he goes to Pro Bowls. How does that happen? He even came out on some downs.

    Underrated: RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis. He's a grinder who moves the chains. He might never be a big-play runner, but he knows how to get the tough yards.

    New Orleans Saints

    Overrated: RT Jon Stinchcomb. He's a decent player, but he gets Pro Bowl votes every year. That I don't see.

    Underrated: S Malcolm Jenkins. He became a full-time starter last season and made Saints fans forget about Darren Sharper. A former corner, he has the range needed to play in this era of wide-open football.

    New York Giants

    Overrated: S Antrel Rolle. He's a solid player, but Pro Bowl player? Not quite. He got way too much hype last season.

    Underrated: WR Hakeem Nicks. This kid is special. He had a huge season in 2010 and few noticed. They will in 2011.

    New York Jets

    Overrated: LB Bart Scott. His bite isn't as good as his bark anymore. And he certainly isn't worth the money he is being paid.

    Underrated: G Brandon Moore. He gets lost on a line with Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson. But he's a good player who really doesn't get the due he deserves.

    Oakland Raiders

    Overrated: CB Stanford Routt. Yes, he had a nice season in 2010. But is he really worth the money the Raiders paid him in March? He has been hot and cold. He can look like a star one play and get beat on the next. With Nnamdi Asomugha gone, it's up to Routt to play like a No. 1 corner.

    Underrated: DE Matt Shaughnessy. He had 7 1/2 sacks last season and few would even know what team he played on. Now in his third season, he could be poised for a double-digit sack season.

    Philadelphia Eagles

    Asante Samuel is a big-time gambler who makes a lot of plays but also gives up a bunch. (Getty Images) Overrated: CB Asante Samuel. I say it every year here: Good player, not great. Big-time gambler. He makes plays, but he also gives up a bunch.

    Underrated: RB LeSean McCoy. With all the attention given to Mike Vick and DeSean Jackson, McCoy didn't get the due he deserved last season. He averaged 5.2 per rush. He's special.

    Pittsburgh Steelers

    Overrated: Troy Polamalu. (see above) I know the stats that show the Steelers have a better record when he's on the field. But you can twist numbers any way you like. I call it like I see it.

    Underrated: LB Lawrence Timmons. He should have been in the Pro Bowl last season. His speed is what makes him special. It's too bad Pittsburgh's outside linebackers get all the attention.

    St. Louis Rams

    Overrated: G Jacob Bell. They paid him a lot of money and he has been only OK. The guard play was a big reason the Rams didn't run it as well last season.

    Underrated: DE James Hall. He led the team in sacks with 10 1/2 sacks and proved to be a valuable part of the defense. He is 34, and they drafted end Robert Quinn, so he might be more of a situational player moving forward.

    San Diego Chargers

    Overrated: DE Luis Castillo. He has been an OK player, but hasn't played as well the past couple of years as he did early in his career.

    Underrated: NT Antonio Garay. He came out of nowhere to be a force in the middle of the Chargers defense. He held up against the run, but also did a nice job rushing the passer.

    San Francisco 49ers

    Overrated: WR Michael Crabtree. I keep hearing about all about his star power, but where is it? Blame the quarterbacks all you want, but I think Crabtree has been a disappointment as well. He had two 100-yard games last season. He's not a big-play guy.

    Underrated: G Mike Iupati. He was a brutish force for the 49ers as a rookie last season. He could be on his way to Hawaii in 2011.

    Seattle Seahawks

    Overrated: WR Mike Williams. OK, so he was a nice story. But he doesn't run well enough to truly be a No. 1 receiver. You watch.

    Underrated: DT Brandon Mebane. Playing in the Northwest, he doesn't get a lot of love. But he's a heck of a player who could become a free agent. He's about to get paid.

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers

    Overrated: G Davin Joseph. He has the look and talent to be a top-tier guard, but he didn't play to that level last season. He could become a free agent, and if the price gets too high, he could be gone.

    Underrated: QB Josh Freeman. He throws 25 touchdown passes against six interceptions and barely anyone notices. Really?

    Tennessee Titans

    Overrated: CB Cortland Finnegan. This pains me to put his name here. I've been a huge proponent of Finnegan's as a player. But he didn't play that well last season. He needs to get back to his 2008 form.

    Underrated: DT Jason Jones. Albert who? Jones did a great job stepping in for Albert Haynesworth. He is undersized at 280 pounds, but he is quick and he can hold up against the run.

    Washington Redskins

    Overrated: CB DeAngelo Hall. He talks a good game, and flashes at times, but he gives up a lot of yardage. He isn't close to being as good as he thinks he is, even if he went to the Pro Bowl last year.

    Underrated: RB Ryan Torain. I've followed his career closely since he played at ASU, my alma mater. The kid always had a knack for putting his foot in the ground, making a cut, and piling up yards. He's perfect for the Washington scheme.

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  • Ben210

    #2
    Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

    Pete Prisco is the world's most overrated football prognosticator and analyst.

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    • sentinel33
      Backup
      • Jun 2010
      • 494

      #3
      Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

      The only point I will concede is the injury issue.

      But when he is healthy he is an X-factor. He makes plays on every part of the field.

      People say the darndest things.

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      • flippy
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 17088

        #4
        Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

        He just wrote that to be controversial. I'd gladly take a bunch of his overrated players. And I'd take most of the underrated ones too.
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        • D Rock
          Hall of Famer
          • Dec 2008
          • 2797

          #5
          Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

          Say he is overrated all you want.

          But to say he is good, not great?

          that's just false. Even if overrated, he is still great.

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          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 10281

            #6
            Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

            IF you say that any player on the field is judged the same as a healthy player (no reason to play hurt now)

            IF you say that the way that Troy played injured in the SB is what you get with Troy

            Then yes he is overrated.

            But as someone who has seen him play in more than one game and appreciates the effort of a player who sucks up the pain for the big game - he is a player who does what no other at his position is capable of doing....thus is not nearly overrated.
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            • birtikidis
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4628

              #7
              Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

              How did Tony Homo not make his list? He's by far the most overrated player in the NFL... The guy is talked about as one of the greatest qb's in the nfl right now and he's garbage.

              He's right about Timmons though, he's definitely underrated. but his assessment of Troy is way off. I can think of a handful of games that we lose if we don't have him. Those games are what got us in the playoffs in the first place.

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              • Djfan
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                • May 2008
                • 5184

                #8
                Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

                I guess when there is no news, and you made a career as a writer who used controversy to get noticed, you do extreme things.

                It's just flat stupid.
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                • BradshawsHairdresser
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 7056

                  #9
                  Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

                  Originally posted by Djfan
                  I guess when there is no news, and you made a career as a writer who used controversy to get noticed, you do extreme things.

                  It's just flat stupid.
                  Is it just me, or has this offseason yielded about the stupidest-ever collection of articles by NFL writers? Whether it's Prisco, or Bouchette, or Harris, or Cook, or Starkey, or even Wexell...there's just been a lot of disappointingly bad reporting and writing.

                  I agree with the OP...he might have a point to make if he says Troy is overrated, but he shot his own article down when he said Troy is merely "good" and "not great." I wonder if Prisco ever tried to play SS while suffering from a bad groin? What a tool.

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                  • plainnasty
                    Backup
                    • May 2008
                    • 191

                    #10
                    Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

                    If he is going to rip Troy, first he should know that it was an achilles injury, not a groin, that slowed him in this years playoffs.

                    Second, he needs to look at the 2009 season and compare the Steelers with and without Troy. Then he wouldn't be calling him overrated.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35649

                      #11
                      Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

                      Pete Prisco Calls Troy Polamalu NFL’s Most Overrated Player

                      Posted on June 10, 2011 by adam


                      Normally I wouldn’t care about columns like this, but because there’s absolutely nothing else NFL-related going on right now (hell, we’re analyzing arena football around here) it caught my attention. Pete Prisco, NFL writer for CBS, penned a column this week talking about overrated and underrated players across the league and determined that Steelers safety Troy Polamalu is the most overrated player in the NFL.

                      In his words: Good, but not great.

                      Hey, the lockout is tough on everybody, and even national football writers need to figure out ways to get people to read something. What better way to bring in hoards of angry readers than to call the most popular player on one of the most popular teams in the league overrated, and use a two-or-three game sample size to back up your argument, completely ignoring the rest of the season or full body of work?

                      His argument is built around Polamalu’s showing in the postseason, particularly the Super Bowl, and Prisco’s belief that the player tied for the second most interceptions in the league is a risk-taker (which is absolutely true) and poor in coverage (which I’m not buying at all).

                      When addressing the possibility that an injury had negative effect on his play in those games he wrote: “They say Polamalu had a groin issue in the playoffs, but if you’re on the field, you’re healthy enough to take the heat. And haven’t injuries been an issue for him the past five seasons? He has played 16 games only once in five years. That has to mean something in the rating game, doesn’t it?”

                      Does being injury prone mean you’re overrated? These are two very different things as far I’m concerned. The performance of the Steelers defense, and the team in general, when Polamalu is on the field (or even on the field at less than 100 percent) is night and day compared to when he’s not. And isn’t that the measure of a player’s greatness? How good the team’s performance is when he is on the field compared to when he is off the field?

                      There’s no denying Polamalu misses his share of games, but go back to the random fact I pointed out on a Podcast during the season: Polamalu has started at least 14 games four times in his career, with the Steelers producing the following results…

                      went 15-1 and lost in AFC Championship game (2004)
                      Won a Super Bowl (2005)
                      Won a Super Bowl (200
                      Lost a Super Bowl (2010)

                      Polamalu wasn’t the player we’re used to seeing in the playoffs and he does miss games. This is also nothing new. There’s going to come a time, probably sooner rather than later, that his career will decline, and decline severely. He is, after all, going to be 30 this season and plays the game with a reckless abandon, but throughout the season when the Steelers needed somebody on defense to make a big play, Polamalu was typically the guy making it.

                      [url="http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/06/pete-prisco-calls-troy-polamalu-nfls-overrated-player/#more-5702"]http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/06/p ... #more-5702[/url]

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #12
                        Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

                        Polamalu has started at least 14 games four times in his career, with the Steelers producing the following results…

                        went 15-1 and lost in AFC Championship game (2004)
                        Won a Super Bowl (2005)
                        Won a Super Bowl (200
                        Lost a Super Bowl (2010)
                        Cool stat. I never made that connection until this guy mentioned it.
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • DukieBoy
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 3488

                          #13
                          Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

                          PP is overrated as a well-informed, objective reporter.

                          PP is underrated as an attention whore.





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                          • birtikidis
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4628

                            #14
                            Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

                            IMO Tony Homo is the most overrated player in the NFL. then comes Carson Palmer. Ray Lewis deserves to be on that list too. He was great once, but comon he's no where near as great as they make him out to be.

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                            • Shoe
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 4044

                              #15
                              Re: Prisco: Troy Polamalu is league's most-overrated player

                              Originally posted by flippy
                              He just wrote that to be controversial. I'd gladly take a bunch of his overrated players. And I'd take most of the underrated ones too.
                              You are right. It's as much to be sensationalist as anything else.

                              But in a way, he is right. Polamalu has been effectively nullified in games vs. Tom Brady* (and the Patriots*). I can't think of anything he's done as "Troy", in any Patriot* game.

                              What this bozo does not take into account is just how his presence allows coverage/pass-rush schemes to be altered, with the knowledge that you have a big eraser back there capable of covering immense amounts of ground. It's why we don't see him as much up at the line... he makes a two-deep coverage like a three-deep, with his range. This allows us to be more aggressive in pass coverage, and makes average secondary players look better than they are, and so on.
                              I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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