Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Business"

[Djfan]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

Polamalu, who plans on using his degree to become a teacher after he retires from football, ..

DON'T DO IT TROY!!!!!

It's not what you think it is. Trust me.

I think the troublemakers in the back of the classroom might be less likely to be a disruption for Mr. Polamalu compared to Mr. DJFan.

You trying to start sompin' Ruth?

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

I didn't read where Troy was comparing himself to everyday people.

Go back and read the first few lines of the story:

Troy Polamalu: Players have cause

By Arash Markazi
ESPNLosAngeles.com


LOS ANGELES -- Pittsburgh Steelers safety Troy Polamalu doesn't know when the NFL lockout will end, but he does believe the players are representing the everyday person in their battle against the NFL.

According to the writer, Troy believes he, and the other players, are "representing the everyday person." Pretty clear. Now the writer might be lying, or misrepresenting Troy, but that's what he said.

[feltdizz]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

I didn't read where Troy was comparing himself to everyday people.

Go back and read the first few lines of the story:

Troy Polamalu: Players have cause

By Arash Markazi
ESPNLosAngeles.com


LOS ANGELES -- Pittsburgh Steelers safety Troy Polamalu doesn't know when the NFL lockout will end, but he does believe the players are representing the everyday person in their battle against the NFL.

According to the writer, Troy believes he, and the other players, are "representing the everyday person." Pretty clear. Now the writer might be lying, or misrepresenting Troy, but that's what he said.

The author may have interpreted it as such but I didn't read Troy's quotes and get that perception.

That is why I wrote this in my post

To be honest I don't buy into either side when they say they are doing it for us... this isn't about us or ticket prices wouldn't rise every season for most teams.

[fordfixer]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

Polamalu, who plans on using his degree to become a teacher after he retires from football, ..

DON'T DO IT TROY!!!!!

It's not what you think it is. Trust me.

Troy wont be teaching to pay the bills

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

I didn't read where Troy was comparing himself to everyday people.

Go back and read the first few lines of the story:

Troy Polamalu: Players have cause

By Arash Markazi
ESPNLosAngeles.com


LOS ANGELES -- Pittsburgh Steelers safety Troy Polamalu doesn't know when the NFL lockout will end, but he does believe the players are representing the everyday person in their battle against the NFL.

According to the writer, Troy believes he, and the other players, are "representing the everyday person." Pretty clear. Now the writer might be lying, or misrepresenting Troy, but that's what he said.

The author may have interpreted it as such but I didn't read Troy's quotes and get that perception.

Dizz, I understand what you said...My point is, the author did NOT report that he was giving an "interpretation" of what Troy had said. He reported that Troy "does believe the players are representing the everyday person in their battle against the NFL." Now, that may indeed just be the author's own interpretation of whatever Troy said to him, but that's NOT what the article said. It was stated as a fact.

[feltdizz]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

I don't think a reporter giving his interpretation of Troy's answer is considered a fact. I didn't get the feeling Troy is fighting for the common man in that interview...

[BradshawsHairdresser]

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[feltdizz]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

Don't hurt yourself.... it's not that serious.

[Djfan]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

Polamalu, who plans on using his degree to become a teacher after he retires from football, ..

DON'T DO IT TROY!!!!!

It's not what you think it is. Trust me.

Troy wont be teaching to pay the bills

Good, since that is an impossibility.

[_SteeL_CurtaiN_]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

The NFL is a very different big business, the have anti trust exemptions and have not revealed their financial statements in full to the players. So the owners do not have to worry about their monopoly and can negotiate with the players without revealing the entire pie. Who here would enter into negotiations with a business that tried to do that? This is robber baron style shafting and one of the prime examples of why unions not only exist but atre still needed.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/08/AR2011030805214.html[/url]

[BURGH86STEEL]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

But the players have no problem taking life style changing millions from evil "Big Business."

I think Troy should propose to the "not really a union" that players accept the same pay as soldiers serving in Afghanistan to show their support of the "everyday person" and to honor real heroes.

Troy should throw himself on a grenade to show real sacrifice. Using the military is weakest argument there is Ovie... please don't do that again.


...and Troy doesn't TAKE millions, he MAKES millions.

Afghanistan

I promise you I earned the right after 20 years to reference the military to show the hypocrisy of a pampered millionaire who has been given everything because of athletic ability trying to associate himself with "everyday people."

I didn't read where Troy was comparing himself to everyday people. He said it's football players vs. big business... never said cops, army, navy... never said he was a soldier. When did he associate himself with everyday people? The author may have interpreted it as such but I didn't read Troy's quotes and get that perception.

and who has been "given" everything? Sounds like jealousy to me.

I believe there are many athletes that work hard off the field to become the players they are on the field. They don't wake up one day and compete at the highest level.

[BURGH86STEEL]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

But the players have no problem taking life style changing millions from evil "Big Business."

I think Troy should propose to the "not really a union" that players accept the same pay as soldiers serving in Afghanistan to show their support of the "everyday person" and to honor real heroes.

It's a different dynamic & fight when the players are the business.

[Sugar]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

The NFL is a very different big business, the have anti trust exemptions and have not revealed their financial statements in full to the players. So the owners do not have to worry about their monopoly and can negotiate with the players without revealing the entire pie. Who here would enter into negotiations with a business that tried to do that? This is robber baron style shafting and one of the prime examples of why unions not only exist but atre still needed.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/08/AR2011030805214.html[/url]

IMO, Unions are an anachronism for the most part. However, when a group like the NFL is able to get around the rules that other big businesses have to play by then it makes sense that a Union should be around and have leverage on them to keep them honest since they don't have competition to do that.

[feltdizz]

Re: Polamalu: Players have good cause, fighting "Big Busines

The NFL is a very different big business, the have anti trust exemptions and have not revealed their financial statements in full to the players. So the owners do not have to worry about their monopoly and can negotiate with the players without revealing the entire pie. Who here would enter into negotiations with a business that tried to do that? This is robber baron style shafting and one of the prime examples of why unions not only exist but atre still needed.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/08/AR2011030805214.html[/url]

IMO, Unions are an anachronism for the most part. However, when a group like the NFL is able to get around the rules that other big businesses have to play by then it makes sense that a Union should be around and have leverage on them to keep them honest since they don't have competition to do that.

nonsense... the NFL is just like the business down the street. Anyone who owns a business would know this.

[hawaiiansteel]

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Drew Brees: Owners saw Gene Upshaw’s death as an opportunity

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 26, 2011



As one of the named plaintiffs in the players’ lawsuit against the owners, Saints quarterback Drew Brees has closely monitored the labor situation. And he traces the current problems to the day the former head of the NFL Players’ Association died.

But Brees doesn’t believe the problem is that Gene Upshaw’s death left the players without a leader. Instead, Brees says the owners perceived that the players were left without a leader, and they thought they could cash in on Upshaw’s passing.

“Ever since Gene Upshaw passed away — I’m just going to lay it all out there — the owners saw blood in the water,” Brees told Jim Trotter of SI.com. “They felt like, ‘This is our opportunity to take a significant piece of the [financial] pie back at all costs, a piece that we will never have to give back again. This is our chance, while they don’t have leadership, while they’re scrambling to find a new executive director. This is our time.’”

It’s incredibly distasteful to think about the owners celebrating the death of a Pro Football Hall of Famer who is one of the most significant figures in NFL history, but Brees believes that that’s how the owners viewed Upshaw’s death: A time when the players weren’t prepared to do anything other than accept what they were offered.

“Their philosophy was, We’re going to give you a very subpar deal, a slap-in-the-face deal, and hope that you’ll accept it because hopefully we’ve intimidated you enough into thinking that this is a take-it-or-leave-it deal, and you’re just going to succumb to the pressure,” Brees said. “Well, guess what. We’re a lot more informed and educated than in the past, and we’re much better businessmen than you think and we’re going to stand up for what is right and what is fair. Fifty-fifty is fair. It’s been fair for the last 20 years and I think the game has done pretty well over the last 20 years. I think franchise values have gone up at a pretty good rate over the last 20 years. So you can’t sit here and tell me that the system is broken.”

The players wanted to keep playing under the deal they negotiated under Upshaw’s leadership, and now that the owners have opted out of that deal, Brees says the players remain united.

“This fight was brought to us, and we feel like we were backed into a corner,” Brees said. “We’re trying to fight our way out of it.”

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