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  • fordfixer
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    • May 2008
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    Player resentment for Goodell grows

    Player resentment for Goodell grows

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    By Michael Silver, Yahoo! SportsMay 4, 3:19 pm EDT




    Years from now, when I look back on the 2011 NFL draft, I’m guessing that Cam Newton’s(notes) broad smile, Thomas Dimitroff’s bold gamble and Larry Fitzgerald’s(notes) plush open-air living room will likely be among the enduring images.

    Most of all, however, I’ll remember the continuous and cacophonous beatings Roger Goodell took atop the Radio City Music Hall stage.

    It’s no fun being the NFL commissioner during a work stoppage, and I’m not surprised that many fans embraced the opportunity to take out their frustrations on the easiest and most available target during last Thursday night’s first round. Far more striking were the reactions of numerous players with whom I’ve communicated in recent days and who derived a sadistic pleasure in seeing Goodell squirm.


    Thanks to the magic of text-messaging technology, I got a real-time sense of that sentiment during the first round. Said one Pro Bowl player in response to Goodell being booed: “As he should. He’s trying to [expletive] us.”

    “Will any one of these [draft picks] nut up and ignore the handshake?” asked a veteran player for an AFC North team. “How about him taking a moment of silence in order to stop the boos? I’m all for paying respect to tornado victims, but what do you think his intent was there?”

    When Goodell later appeared onstage with a group of U.S. soldiers, a player for an AFC West team said, “So that’s the only way he can get them to stop booing? Shameless.”



    While Goodell-bashing may be cathartic for players and fans, I don’t think it’s good for football. For all my criticism of the owners during this labor stare down, I’ve remained relatively positive about Goodell’s role – partly because I’m convinced he’s not driving the bus, and partly because I’ve spoken to the man and looked him in the eye and believe he sincerely wants a deal.

    Yet I’ve had a very, very hard time finding a player who shares those views, and however this lockout and the accompanying legal maneuverings are resolved, I’m convinced that the commissioner will have a very real problem with the vast majority of the men who wear “The Shield” of which he speaks so reverently.

    “A lot of the players hated him even before this went down, and now they really hate him,” one prominent player for an NFC East team told me last Friday. “He’s not smooth, charming or witty. He never seems honest when he talks to you. And he’s a dope. They should change his name to Roger Goon-dell.”

    That’s one nickname you won’t see mentioned on a future NFL Network “Top 10” production.

    I’d dismiss this player as an outlier – if I hadn’t heard similar opinions from so many others. Over the past few weeks, Goodell has been called a “joke” and a “fraud” by the Baltimore Ravens’ Derrick Mason(notes) and the Seattle Seahawks’ Chester Pitts(notes), respectively, and I’ve heard plenty of unprintable insults from other players, too.

    And while until a week or so ago I would have thought it crazy, I’m not going to throw something out there that might be worth pondering: Is it possible that, either by his choice or the will of his employers, the fallout from this labor nightmare will cost Goodell his job?

    “Zero chance,” one owner insisted Wednesday.

    The owner said there is near-unanimous support for the commissioner among the people running the 32 franchises and that Goodell has been “absolutely great” before and during the labor crisis.

    “He’s showing the level of comportment and intelligent discourse that you’d expect of someone in his position, and his responses have been specific and thoughtful,” the owner said. “I can’t say that for [NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith]. We feel like Roger is representing our interests and trying hard to get a deal for the good of the game.”

    Even if Goodell survives the current labor crisis, however, his standing among the rank and file has clearly taken a massive hit. From glad-handing in locker rooms to meting out discipline, Goodell’s post-settlement interactions with players figure to be awkward at best, and perhaps downright incendiary, for the foreseeable future.

    “You think any vet will shake his hand when he’s at a game next year?” asked the AFC North player. “I hope he’s gone.”

    While personally fond of Goodell, Cleveland Browns linebacker Scott Fujita(notes), a member of the decertified NFLPA’s executive committee, agrees that Goodell’s reputation with players has been compromised.

    “Does he have a problem with getting the players’ respect? Absolutely,” Fujita says. “No matter what happens, it might be tough for him to ever get that back. However this is resolved, I can’t say every player, but the overwhelming majority will continue to have a problem with him. And that’s too bad.”

    Like me, Fujita believes that much of the players’ anger toward Goodell is misplaced and that the commissioner, as the “face of the lockout,” is a natural and convenient foil. Yet while Fujita may believe that the Goodell-bashing is a tad over-the-top, he doesn’t view it as unjustified, either.

    “He’s just in a really unenviable position of having to build consensus among the owners,” Fujita says. “I don’t know that anybody can do that right now. He’s the mouthpiece of the owners, and that’s why he’s getting that type of reaction. I do feel bad for him.

    “Ideally, he’s someone who can build consensus among the owners and convince them to do what’s best for the game. I expected him to be that guy who can push those buttons and get them to move, but I’m afraid he might not be. I don’t know that he’ll be able to do that, and that’s disappointing.”

    One thing that’s not helping Goodell is his image as a tough, no-nonsense executive, which began with his strengthening of the personal-conduct policy shortly after he succeeded Paul Tagliabue in 2006 and continued with his high-profile suspensions of players like Michael Vick(notes), Pacman Jones and Ben Roethlisberger(notes). In those contexts, Goodell was clearly The Sheriff. In this one, he’s a hired gun doing the bidding of the very wealthy people who technically employ him, and it’s hard for players and fans to appreciate the distinction.

    Unlike the robotic, careful Taglibaue, Goodell has been refreshingly candid and edgy from the start of his reign, and his efforts to be inclusive of players and fans have been rightfully well received. However, on the big issues like labor, Tagliabue had a gift for appearing as though he were firmly in charge of the league, even when he nominally wasn’t. Goodell, as Fujita suggests, hasn’t yet come close to mastering that trick.

    Goodell has also caused plenty of players to regard him as a hypocrite. Many, like Fujita, have questioned what they perceive to be a double standard when it comes to the application of the personal-conduct policy. For example, then-Raiders coach Tom Cable received no discipline from the league after a 2009 training-camp argument with defensive assistant Randy Hanson during which Hanson sustained a broken jaw (Hanson was never interviewed by Goodell or anyone from his office).

    “People believe he’s been disingenuous when it comes to certain things,” Fujita says. “Every issue’s handled differently. He’s talking tough when it comes to player conduct and cracking down on big hits, but then you have things like the Tom Cable situation …”

    Last summer, Goodell went on a training-camp tour and met with players to discuss the impending expiration of the collective bargaining agreement and labor issues in general. Grilled by Fujita and others, Goodell provided few satisfactory answers and, said witnesses, experienced a measure of hostility and humiliation.

    In March, after negotiations broke down – and, upon the expiration of the CBA, the NFLPA decertified, the players filed an antitrust lawsuit against the league and the owners locked out the players – Goodell became the owners’ most visible public advocate. He wrote a letter to each player summarizing the league’s most recent offer and urging players to “encourage your union to return to the bargaining table.”

    Pitts, the Seahawks’ NFLPA player rep, said in response, “I’ve told my guys to take the letter and set it on fire. We’re not that stupid.”


    Players have bristled at subsequent comments by Goodell, including his assertion to San Diego Chargers season-ticket holders that the average-career-length of NFL players is longer than 3.5 years, as is commonly believed.

    “He’s lost all credibility with us,” the AFC North player said last Thursday. “Especially with those comments about how the average career really isn’t three years. And telling us the last deal on the table had ” lifetime health insurance. Really? It had lifetime COBRA. He’s basically saying he’s betting we’ll never be employed again after football.”

    It’s not particularly noteworthy that a high-stakes labor dispute would trigger heated rhetoric on both sides, and it’s fair to say that many or all of the 32 owners are as embittered toward Smith as some of the 1,800-plus NFL players are toward Goodell. The owner to whom I spoke insisted that Goodell’s efforts to establish a better working relationship with Smith – and to keep the lines of communication going even as the matter plays out in the courts – have not been reciprocated.

    “Roger is trying to do business, and De is like a psycho girlfriend who doesn’t know what he wants, doesn’t understand what he’s involved in and [who] you can’t reason with,” the owner said. “With psycho girlfriends, at least you can move on eventually. But Roger is stuck with him right now.”

    Two observations: 1. The next time I need to come up with a biting analogy, instead of going for a bike ride to clear my head or consulting with one of my journalistic peers, I should probably call this owner and ask for assistance; 2. plenty of seemingly reasonable people with erratically behaving romantic partners get sullied by association, and right now this appears to be a scenario in which there are no winners.

    Labor peace would obviously go a long way toward restoring Goodell’s positive aura. If the lawsuit is settled and a new CBA is achieved before the scheduled start of the regular season – or, at the very least, if the owners lose their appeal of U.S. District Court Judge Susan Nelson’s decision ending the lockout and football continues while the antitrust lawsuit drags on, without any games being missed – I believe Goodell can and will recover.

    “I think if everything gets resolved and the games are played on time, fans will be forgiving and will forget very quickly,” Fujita says. “As for his job security with the people who employ him – that depends on the deal that is reached and their opinion of it.”

    The owner to whom I spoke conceded that if the lockout continues into September or October, it’s possible some owners will begin to turn on Goodell. For now, he has their unequivocal support – and the privilege of being the most glaring symbol of player and fan discontent.

    “He’s the face of this whole problem, the face of the league that locked out the players,” Fujita says. “He is just the face who’s trying to shut down the game and take away our livelihood – and that pisses guys off. It’s as simple as that.”

    Once there’s a deal, will the Goodell-bashing simply go away?

    Or, more dramatically, will he?

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  • BradshawsHairdresser
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 7056

    #2
    Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

    Once there’s a deal, will the Goodell-bashing simply go away?

    Or, more dramatically, will he?
    Please, please, please, please, please, please, please....

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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

      The player will hate Goodell even more as it becomes more clear that Demarcus Smith and their union leadership has screwed them and the owners will win this dispute over the long term. It's called projection where you place your anger on something or someone to avoid having to direct towards where it should be...Demarcus Smith who walked away from mediation and decertified the union.
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      • SteelCrazy
        Legend
        • Aug 2008
        • 5049

        #4
        Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

        Originally posted by Oviedo
        The player will hate Goodell even more as it becomes more clear that Demarcus Smith and their union leadership has screwed them and the owners will win this dispute over the long term. It's called projection where you place your anger on something or someone to avoid having to direct towards where it should be...Demarcus Smith who walked away from mediation and decertified the union.
        Although Demarcus Smith decertified the union it wasn't his decision alone. He has advisers like any President in power. They all agree on what to do, he just calls the shots from that point on. It's hardly a one man show.
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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27531

          #5
          Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

          Originally posted by Oviedo
          The player will hate Goodell even more as it becomes more clear that Demarcus Smith and their union leadership has screwed them and the owners will win this dispute over the long term. It's called projection where you place your anger on something or someone to avoid having to direct towards where it should be...Demarcus Smith who walked away from mediation and decertified the union.
          Projection... placing your anger at DeMarcus Smith when it should be directed at Goodell and the 32 Owners who opted out and locked the players out.

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          • Djfan
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 5184

            #6
            Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

            Never mind the lock out. He has proven to me that he is an idiot in areas like the Europe love, the arbitrary and inconsistent fines, the wussification of the defense, the sweep under the carpet that the cheators got for their scam, the ignoring of the bad refing job, the change of the AFC and NFC trophies (and all that tradition), the moving of the Pro Bowl from Hawaii, the crap on NFLN, etc.

            This guy is bad publicity for the NFL. If the ownership doesn't see that, they live in the worst kind of bubble possible.
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            • flippy
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 17088

              #7
              Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

              Goodell is a puppet.

              It's good for the players, the owners, and the league if Goodell gets the blame. He can be replaced. And the league can move on. Everyone comes out of the mess clean except Goodell. But that's what they're paying him for. To protect the shield of the NFL.

              Goodell is standing in front of the shield taking all the arrows. And the league will be better for it in the end. And Goodell knew what he was getting into when he took the job and he's taking in a lot of cash to take the arrows.

              And even though he'll be the fall guy, he'll get the deal done the owners want and he'll be able to show how valuable he is to his next employer that wants to use him.
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              • fordfixer
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 10921

                #8
                Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

                Fan resentment for Goodell is still about the same

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                • Discipline of Steel
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 3882

                  #9
                  Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

                  I agree with djfan, Goodell has had multiple offenses during his career and the worst is wussification of the defense. Not everybody wants to watch offenses march up and down the field and it hits the Steelers particularly hard because we are known for the best defense year in and year out. His treatment of James Harrison, a league star, has been very poor. In my opinion, it looked like he was picking on him with the lockout and other financial motives in the background. No one could be worse for football than Roger Goodell. Wish Jack Lambert would speak up and embarrass him, Id throw a party. Hows that for fan sentiment?
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                  • Sugar
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3700

                    #10
                    Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    The player will hate Goodell even more as it becomes more clear that Demarcus Smith and their union leadership has screwed them and the owners will win this dispute over the long term. It's called projection where you place your anger on something or someone to avoid having to direct towards where it should be...Demarcus Smith who walked away from mediation and decertified the union.
                    Projection... placing your anger at DeMarcus Smith when it should be directed at Goodell and the 32 Owners who opted out and locked the players out.

                    I don't know who Demarcus Smith is, but DeMaurice Smith is the NFLPA Executive Director. Just sayin...

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                    • Oviedo
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 23824

                      #11
                      Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

                      Originally posted by Sugar
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      The player will hate Goodell even more as it becomes more clear that Demarcus Smith and their union leadership has screwed them and the owners will win this dispute over the long term. It's called projection where you place your anger on something or someone to avoid having to direct towards where it should be...Demarcus Smith who walked away from mediation and decertified the union.
                      Projection... placing your anger at DeMarcus Smith when it should be directed at Goodell and the 32 Owners who opted out and locked the players out.

                      I don't know who Demarcus Smith is, but DeMaurice Smith is the NFLPA Executive Director. Just sayin...
                      Yep!!! He is the scumbag who is trying to destroy the NFL through the court system and turn it into MLB. Thanks for clarifying which stupid name he actually has.
                      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                      • Discipline of Steel
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 3882

                        #12
                        Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        Originally posted by Sugar
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        The player will hate Goodell even more as it becomes more clear that Demarcus Smith and their union leadership has screwed them and the owners will win this dispute over the long term. It's called projection where you place your anger on something or someone to avoid having to direct towards where it should be...Demarcus Smith who walked away from mediation and decertified the union.
                        Projection... placing your anger at DeMarcus Smith when it should be directed at Goodell and the 32 Owners who opted out and locked the players out.

                        I don't know who Demarcus Smith is, but DeMaurice Smith is the NFLPA Executive Director. Just sayin...
                        Yep!!! He is the scumbag who is trying to destroy the NFL through the court system and turn it into MLB. Thanks for clarifying which stupid name he actually has.
                        Doesnt let Goodell off the hook. He is horrible for fans, Defenses, and the Steelers and thats all I need to know. They are trying to spin the player resentment around the lockout issue when Im sure many are still peeved about the 'middle of the night' changes in rules and enforcement and the 'i am God' mentality.
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                        • Oviedo
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 23824

                          #13
                          Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

                          Originally posted by Discipline of Steel
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Originally posted by Sugar
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          The player will hate Goodell even more as it becomes more clear that Demarcus Smith and their union leadership has screwed them and the owners will win this dispute over the long term. It's called projection where you place your anger on something or someone to avoid having to direct towards where it should be...Demarcus Smith who walked away from mediation and decertified the union.
                          Projection... placing your anger at DeMarcus Smith when it should be directed at Goodell and the 32 Owners who opted out and locked the players out.

                          I don't know who Demarcus Smith is, but DeMaurice Smith is the NFLPA Executive Director. Just sayin...
                          Yep!!! He is the scumbag who is trying to destroy the NFL through the court system and turn it into MLB. Thanks for clarifying which stupid name he actually has.
                          Doesnt let Goodell off the hook. He is horrible for fans, Defenses, and the Steelers and thats all I need to know. They are trying to spin the player resentment around the lockout issue when Im sure many are still peeved about the 'middle of the night' changes in rules and enforcement and the 'i am God' mentality.
                          I can't stand Goodell but I have little doubt that he has more interest in the long term viability of the NFL than Demarius Smith does. Pittsburgh fans of all fans in the nation should recognize the destructive effects of players dictating the terms of how the sports business is run.
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                          • aggiebones
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1427

                            #14
                            Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

                            I never understood the hate for Goodell on this issue. He's a puppet, correct?

                            He gathers the paper and maybe organizes them and then asks the owner what he should say and do.

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27531

                              #15
                              Re: Player resentment for Goodell grows

                              Originally posted by Sugar
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              The player will hate Goodell even more as it becomes more clear that Demarcus Smith and their union leadership has screwed them and the owners will win this dispute over the long term. It's called projection where you place your anger on something or someone to avoid having to direct towards where it should be...Demarcus Smith who walked away from mediation and decertified the union.
                              Projection... placing your anger at DeMarcus Smith when it should be directed at Goodell and the 32 Owners who opted out and locked the players out.

                              I don't know who Demarcus Smith is, but DeMaurice Smith is the NFLPA Executive Director. Just sayin...
                              him too
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