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  • steeler_george
    Hall of Famer
    • Dec 2008
    • 3417

    fa wish list

    Now with the draft over, who does everyone want or think postion we will probably add.

    Signing Ike is a give me. I would love if they can find guard, and maybe the end of days for Kemo?

  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #2
    Re: fa wish list

    I'm not worried about outside free agents whatsoever. Our $$$ will be spend in house.

    Sign Taylor. Extend Woodley's one year franchise tag to a long term deal.

    Save the rest of our money to extend Polamalu and Timmons next year.

    Depending on what the new CBA says about when players can be RFA's and UFA's, we may soon need to start paying Mike Wallace significantly more money than he is making in his rookie 3rd round pick contract as well.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • Oviedo
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #3
      Re: fa wish list

      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
      I'm not worried about outside free agents whatsoever. Our $$$ will be spend in house.

      Sign Taylor. Extend Woodley's one year franchise tag to a long term deal.

      Save the rest of our money to extend Polamalu and Timmons next year.

      Depending on what the new CBA says about when players can be RFA's and UFA's, we may soon need to start paying Mike Wallace significantly more money than he is making in his rookie 3rd round pick contract as well.
      Yep!!!! That's about right.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • Lebsteel
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1007

        #4
        Re: fa wish list

        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
        I'm not worried about outside free agents whatsoever. Our $$$ will be spend in house.

        Sign Taylor. Extend Woodley's one year franchise tag to a long term deal.

        Save the rest of our money to extend Polamalu and Timmons next year.

        Depending on what the new CBA says about when players can be RFA's and UFA's, we may soon need to start paying Mike Wallace significantly more money than he is making in his rookie 3rd round pick contract as well.
        Ruthless, dream a little, man....

        Let Ike walk if he wants top 10 CB money (he is 31) and sign Asomugha (if he is only a few million more than Taylor). Hope Farrior and Smith either retire or dramatically restructure their contract. Sign a really good ILB...yea, you know who. Save money to sign Timmons and Polamalu next year.

        OK, so not much change...but if I was a betting man, Ruthless, you are probably correct. Though, I think we occasionally NEED to make a FA splash (like we did with Farrior and Bettis). I think this year is one of those NEED years.
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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #5
          Re: fa wish list

          Originally posted by Lebsteel
          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          I'm not worried about outside free agents whatsoever. Our $$$ will be spend in house.

          Sign Taylor. Extend Woodley's one year franchise tag to a long term deal.

          Save the rest of our money to extend Polamalu and Timmons next year.

          Depending on what the new CBA says about when players can be RFA's and UFA's, we may soon need to start paying Mike Wallace significantly more money than he is making in his rookie 3rd round pick contract as well.
          Ruthless, dream a little, man....

          Let Ike walk if he wants top 10 CB money (he is 31) and sign Asomugha (if he is only a few million more than Taylor). Hope Farrior and Smith either retire or dramatically restructure their contract. Sign a really good ILB...yea, you know who. Save money to sign Timmons and Polamalu next year.

          OK, so not much change...but if I was a betting man, Ruthless, you are probably correct. Though, I think we can occasionally NEED to make a FA splash (like we did with Farrior and Bettis). I think this year is one of those NEED years.
          You're missing the point. Signing Ike at top dollar or Asomugha "for a few million more" jeopordizes resigning Troy and Timmons and Woodley to a long term extension. All three are essential. Not worth it.
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • flippy
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 17088

            #6
            Re: fa wish list

            Given the current state of the NFL, I'd go with what I've got for this year.

            Next year I'd take a run at Charles Godfrey - S - Carolina and the following year Vontae Davis - CB - Miami.
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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #7
              Re: fa wish list

              I love Nnamdi. He'd make the perfect Steeler, both on and off the field. Elite talent, comes from an incredibly smart family of doctors and lawyers, tons of charity work in the community, etc. Even though we rarely sign top notch outsiders (Bettis was a trade after the Rams drafted Lawrence Phillips in the first round, and Farrior was solid in New York, but not living up to his 8th overall billing...we happened to get him when his value was at a down turn, and he just so happened to fit better in our defense than the Jets...similar to how Jon Vilma fits in better with the Saints than the Jets), Asomugha's worthy of a big time free agent deal, and if there would ever be a slam-dunk no-risk all-reward type of guy that I would be willing to give big money to, that would be the guy.

              I would happily pay him top dollar for a corner if Al Davis didn't exist. Unfortunately, Undead Al totally blew up the curve for CB's. He made the deal with Nnamdi that gave him top 5 QB money, not top 5 CB. Insane. Then he signed Nnamdi's replacement, Stanford #&@%ing Routt to a $10 million a year deal, even though Routt couldn't hold Asomugha's jock. Is it really worth paying a cornerback...A CORNERBACK?!?!...Peyton Manning/Tom Brady type of money? Would Nnamdi Asomugha be worth more money to us than Ben? Really???

              If we let Ike walk and signed Nnamdi for "a few more million" then how exactly would that make our defense improve? Now, teams tend to throw away from Ike and throw toward BMac, Gay, or whatever other turdburgler we put out there opposite side. If we somehow got Asomugha, then teams would just throw away from Nnamdi and throw toward BMac, Gay, or whatever other turdburgler we put out there opposite side (that's why Asomugha doesn't have high totals for interceptions, passes defensed, or tackles...other teams can easily avoid him and pick on the other turdburglers...one of which is now making $10 mil per ).

              Our problem isn't with our #1 CB. It's with our #2 and #3 CB's. And we can't sign Ike and Nnamdi or Ike and Jonathan Joseph, or Nnamdi and Joseph, or whatever, unless you are prepared to sacrifice Polamalu (leaving an even greater hole at safety than we currently have at corner) or Timmons (with Farrior going into his late 30's, Timmons is a must sign in the middle) or Woodley (without a steady pass rush, your corners are dead meat no matter how good they are).

              I'd love getting this guy, don't get me wrong. I'd celebrate it if it somehow came to fruition. But it's a pipe dream. All the teams who spend frivilously on free agents every d@mn year want this guy too.
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • Lebsteel
                Pro Bowler
                • May 2008
                • 1007

                #8
                Re: fa wish list

                Originally posted by Oviedo
                Originally posted by Lebsteel
                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                I'm not worried about outside free agents whatsoever. Our $$$ will be spend in house.

                Sign Taylor. Extend Woodley's one year franchise tag to a long term deal.

                Save the rest of our money to extend Polamalu and Timmons next year.

                Depending on what the new CBA says about when players can be RFA's and UFA's, we may soon need to start paying Mike Wallace significantly more money than he is making in his rookie 3rd round pick contract as well.
                Ruthless, dream a little, man....

                Let Ike walk if he wants top 10 CB money (he is 31) and sign Asomugha (if he is only a few million more than Taylor). Hope Farrior and Smith either retire or dramatically restructure their contract. Sign a really good ILB...yea, you know who. Save money to sign Timmons and Polamalu next year.

                OK, so not much change...but if I was a betting man, Ruthless, you are probably correct. Though, I think we can occasionally NEED to make a FA splash (like we did with Farrior and Bettis). I think this year is one of those NEED years.
                You're missing the point. Signing Ike at top dollar or Asomugha "for a few million more" jeopordizes resigning Troy and Timmons and Woodley to a long term extension. All three are essential. Not worth it.
                Not at all...sign Asomugha and not Ike. IF Farrior and Smith retire and then Ward retires next year, we would have enough money to sign Woodley, Timmons and Troy. However, I would definitely not pay Timmons an enormous contract. I doubt the Steelers willl either.
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                • steelblood
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 4166

                  #9
                  Re: fa wish list

                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  I love Nnamdi. He'd make the perfect Steeler, both on and off the field. Elite talent, comes from an incredibly smart family of doctors and lawyers, tons of charity work in the community, etc. Even though we rarely sign top notch outsiders (Bettis was a trade after the Rams drafted Lawrence Phillips in the first round, and Farrior was solid in New York, but not living up to his 8th overall billing...we happened to get him when his value was at a down turn, and he just so happened to fit better in our defense than the Jets...similar to how Jon Vilma fits in better with the Saints than the Jets), Asomugha's worthy of a big time free agent deal, and if there would ever be a slam-dunk no-risk all-reward type of guy that I would be willing to give big money to, that would be the guy.

                  I would happily pay him top dollar for a corner if Al Davis didn't exist. Unfortunately, Undead Al totally blew up the curve for CB's. He made the deal with Nnamdi that gave him top 5 QB money, not top 5 CB. Insane. Then he signed Nnamdi's replacement, Stanford #&@%ing Routt to a $10 million a year deal, even though Routt couldn't hold Asomugha's jock. Is it really worth paying a cornerback...A CORNERBACK?!?!...Peyton Manning/Tom Brady type of money? Would Nnamdi Asomugha be worth more money to us than Ben? Really???

                  If we let Ike walk and signed Nnamdi for "a few more million" then how exactly would that make our defense improve? Now, teams tend to throw away from Ike and throw toward BMac, Gay, or whatever other turdburgler we put out there opposite side. If we somehow got Asomugha, then teams would just throw away from Nnamdi and throw toward BMac, Gay, or whatever other turdburgler we put out there opposite side (that's why Asomugha doesn't have high totals for interceptions, passes defensed, or tackles...other teams can easily avoid him and pick on the other turdburglers...one of which is now making $10 mil per ).

                  Our problem isn't with our #1 CB. It's with our #2 and #3 CB's. And we can't sign Ike and Nnamdi or Ike and Jonathan Joseph, or Nnamdi and Joseph, or whatever, unless you are prepared to sacrifice Polamalu (leaving an even greater hole at safety than we currently have at corner) or Timmons (with Farrior going into his late 30's, Timmons is a must sign in the middle) or Woodley (without a steady pass rush, your corners are dead meat no matter how good they are).

                  I'd love getting this guy, don't get me wrong. I'd celebrate it if it somehow came to fruition. But it's a pipe dream. All the teams who spend frivilously on free agents every d@mn year want this guy too.
                  I've seen a few rumors that Nnamdi wants to play for a winner. If this is so, he should be willing to be reasonable on his contract. 11-12 million per may do it. If this is so, we must make a run.
                  Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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                  • BradshawsHairdresser
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 7056

                    #10
                    Re: fa wish list

                    I'd love to see Asomugha in Black and Gold. But the Steelers wouldn't even lock up Ike last year when they had the chance. They're not going to spend the $$$ it would take to get Asomugha. As the OP said, "pipe dream."

                    Let's face it, they just don't look at CB as a priority.

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                    • Doogie36
                      Backup
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 274

                      #11
                      Re: fa wish list

                      What??? no more talk about getting a WR??? Come on!!! LOL

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #12
                        Re: fa wish list

                        Originally posted by steelblood
                        I've seen a few rumors that Nnamdi wants to play for a winner. If this is so, he should be willing to be reasonable on his contract. 11-12 million per may do it. If this is so, we must make a run.
                        There are other winning teams that are interested in him (for instance, across the state in Philadelphia), who would be willing to pay out the nose for his services.
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • papillon
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 11340

                          #13
                          Re: fa wish list

                          The Steelers need to upgrade cornerbacks 2 through 4 not their number 1 cornerback. They gain very little by letting Ike walk and signing Nnamdi. Teams would simply avoid him like the plague and attack the other side of the field. Of course, reducing the amount of grass that Clark has to cover as a FS would be a trmendous help, but he's probably already not really worrying about Ike's side of the field.

                          I'd love Nnamdi to be a Steeler, but I just don't see enough benefit as a team to make the deal.

                          Pappy
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                          • SteelerNation1
                            Pro Bowler
                            • May 2008
                            • 1574

                            #14
                            Re: fa wish list

                            There is a 0% chance we even contact nmandi's agent. Don't even waste time thinking about it.
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                            • Lebsteel
                              Pro Bowler
                              • May 2008
                              • 1007

                              #15
                              Re: fa wish list

                              Originally posted by SteelerNation1
                              There is a 0% chance we even contact nmandi's agent. Don't even waste time thinking about it.
                              OK, maybe Nnamdi's agent?

                              I know, you are guys are looking at it through Steeler goggles, which is very realistic and probably 99.9% the way it is going to happen. I just think sometimes you need to think "outside of the box." I encourage you to THINK, no wait don't do that. Just kidding. I totally understand that we need to fix CBs 2-4 and not necessarily 1. But when the ball does get thrown towards #1, it would be nice to have #1 actually be able to catch the ball. Plus, I think Nnamdi is significantly better than Ike AND he is younger.
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