Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

[MadSteel]

We haven't had any luck with mid draft corners in recent past (Lewis and Burnett), so why would Allen and Brown be any different. They do not look any better than those two did in college. I hope Allen n Brown kick butt, however they may just be a couple more fillers until another draft or two.

I know we couldnt pass on Heyward, but we should have traded up and got Prince. And Yes, I do know better then the Steelers FO.

[birtikidis]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

We haven't had any luck with mid draft corners in recent past (Lewis and Burnett), so why would Allen and Brown be any different. They do not look any better than those two did in college. I hope Allen n Brown kick butt, however they may just be a couple more fillers until another draft or two.

I know we couldnt pass on Heyward, but we should have traded up and got Prince. And Yes, I do know better then the Steelers FO.

I wouldn't have traded for Prince. Corner is not as big a need as everyone seems to think.

[papillon]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

Of course they're wasted picks, the Steelers make a habit of wasting draft picks.

Pappy

[isonator07]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

We got one of the biggest steals in the draft IMO at 31 in Cam Heyward. I live in Ohio (UGH) and watched most of the OSU games this year. Heyward is an absolute monster. His overall effect on a game goes beyond his stats. His pressure on Qbs forced sooooo many poor throws. He was hands down the best defender on one of the best Defenses in college football. He also played in a system that is very similar to our D. We now have our DE's set for a while. We solidified one whole position with Ziggy and Cam.

Also lets not give up on Butler or the 2 corners we took. Cortez looks like a bit of a project but so was Ike. I feel better about these 2 corners than the ones we've drafted in the last couple years. Time will tell, but I think this might be Tomlin/Colbert's best draft yet!

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

We haven't had any luck with mid draft corners in recent past (Lewis and Burnett), so why would Allen and Brown be any different. They do not look any better than those two did in college. I hope Allen n Brown kick butt, however they may just be a couple more fillers until another draft or two.

I know we couldnt pass on Heyward, but we should have traded up and got Prince. And Yes, I do know better then the Steelers FO.

what are you, Mad?

[D Rock]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

[steelblood]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

3rd-5th round picks are often fringe starter/role player or project picks. Keenan Lewis was a project pick and Burnett was a fringe starter/role player. I still think Burnett has what it takes to be a nickel back in this league. Lewis has not panned out. But, that doesn't mean you stop taking project picks. Ike Taylor was a 4th round project pick.

[birtikidis]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

I'm not saying the Heyward pick was bad. I agree with the assessment that he is a two gap 3-4 end, he'll never have stats, but He'll have a ton of double teams. I wouldn't give up on Butler either. same with Lewis. Even Bmac. Corner is far from our biggest worry, and we're lucky to be in a situation where we can develop these young guys now.

[insanesteelersfan]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

First off, Burnett was a 5th rounder, and not a 3rd rounder. Second, I think it's a bit too early to write off Lewis as a Bad 3rd rounder. And I'm GLAD our front office doesn't listen to you and your logic. Cause, given the steelers recent luck with 3rd and 4th round WR...Willie Reid & Danny Farmer....I guess if YOU were in charge of our draft,,,,a little guy named Mike Wallace would probably be a Raven right now

[D Rock]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

First off, Burnett was a 5th rounder, and not a 3rd rounder. Second, I think it's a bit too early to write off Lewis as a Bad 3rd rounder. And I'm GLAD our front office doesn't listen to you and your logic. Cause, given the steelers recent luck with 3rd and 4th round WR...Willie Reid & Danny Farmer....I guess if YOU were in charge of our draft,,,,a little guy named Mike Wallace would probably be a Raven right now

Recent?

Danny Farmer was drafted in 2000. Even if he had made the team, he'd be nearing retirement right now.


You really think you're hot sh1t don't you?

[birtikidis]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

what's the average that a 3rd rounder is a "success" in the NFL.. like 30%... So, the fact is, we hit more often then average on all our picks *except the 5th round* so, I'll take the front office and trust them.

[MadSteel]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

what's the average that a 3rd rounder is a "success" in the NFL.. like 30%... So, the fact is, we hit more often then average on all our picks *except the 5th round* so, I'll take the front office and trust them.

Like I said, I know better than they do. But seriously, CB is a big need for us. We lost the Super Bowl because we couldnt cover Jordy Nelson!

[insanesteelersfan]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

what's the average that a 3rd rounder is a "success" in the NFL.. like 30%... So, the fact is, we hit more often then average on all our picks *except the 5th round* so, I'll take the front office and trust them.

Like I said, I know better than they do. But seriously, CB is a big need for us. We lost the Super Bowl because we couldnt cover Jordy Nelson!

And HELLO...we just took care of it by drafting Curtis Brown.....Duh!!!

[birtikidis]

Re: Did We Waste Our 3rd and 4th Round Picks?

what's the average that a 3rd rounder is a "success" in the NFL.. like 30%... So, the fact is, we hit more often then average on all our picks *except the 5th round* so, I'll take the front office and trust them.

Like I said, I know better than they do. But seriously, CB is a big need for us. We lost the Super Bowl because we couldnt cover Jordy Nelson!

I disagree. I think we lost the super bowl because we turned the ball over three times. once on a pick 6. I also would say that our offensive line was pi$$ poor. Though, most posters think it was their best game, it seems to me that when they showed the graphic of how many times Ben had been hit, it was a LOT higher then it should have been. Just because they didn't suck as bad as they usually do doesn't mean it was any good. Weren't two of our turnovers on THEIR side of the 50? yep. Didn't our "awesome" blocking TE completely Whiff on the his block of clay mathews on Mendy's fumble? Yep. Didn't Kemo COMPLETELY miss his block on the pick 6? YEP.

[birtikidis]

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Oh and how everyone says that Brady tore us up. Well, that was a defense that the BROWNS tore apart and we couldn't do $hit against.
same thing with the Saints game. The BROWNS tore them up.
Two garbage defenses that we couldn't do SQUAT against.