Re: Barron Batch
I was doing some fantasy football research and found an article on the most unlikely of candidates...Baron Batch. Huh? If nothing else, there are a lot of interesting facts there. Guy must be a Steeler fan, check out the first couple paragraphs where he talks about the draft coverage; my thoughts exactly!
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Baron Batch Rookie RB — the Pittsburgh Steelers “Out-Scout” Everyone…as Usual
Posted on May 5, 2011 by R.C. Fischer
When it comes to the NFL Draft coverage, there is an odd phenomena that happens seemingly every year (or maybe it is selective memory?).
The 2011 coverage was no exception:
The reporters are all wrapped up in what the Patriots are doing with all their trading back, and making some kind of comments about Bill Belichick as a “mad genius”. It seemed much of the coverage I watched was focused on trying to figure out the Patriots Draft from the draft commentator’s perspective of — “I don’t understand what the Patriots are doing, but Belichick is super-smart, so what they’re doing must be super-smart”…
Bill Polian (Colts) is the elder statesman of the draft, so you will always get as few niceties about what the Colts are doing
We always get the obligatory — whoever just won the Super Bowl (Green Bay), “doesn’t need anything” so everyone they draft is just so devastating to the rest of the league because, “the rich are getting richer“. Does anyone remember when the Packers barely made the playoffs last year? I’m sure they have some areas of “need”?
All the high selecting teams, taking the recognizable names, are always on the TV coverage to boast about how pleased they are with their draft/picks …in theory shouldn’t the be embarrassed to even be seen on camera if they are picking in the top-10 for the 3rd-4th-5th-6th…year-in-a-row?
The one thing I don’t recall seeing this year, or last year — is the Pittsburgh Steelers on air bragging about their picks…nor do I recall the draft commentators spending as much/any time patting the Steelers on the back for their draft strategy either. Usually, the draft commentators are too busy falling all over whatever the Patriots are doing. At minimum, the Steelers are right there with the Patriots as the best franchise in the NFL over the past 6 years. Why don’t they get the same fawning “genius” NFL Draft label? I’m sure the Steelers are completely fine quietly out-drafting and out-scouting the competition.
A great example (to me) of the Steelers scouting prowess in the Draft, occurred in the 7th Round of the Draft this year.
While some 20+ RBs were selected ahead of him, the Steelers used their 7th Round pick on little known (pre-draft, or post-draft) Baron Batch out of Texas Tech. If you don’t know who Baron Batch is, join the club. Batch was not invited to the NFL Combine in 2011. Reading back story in Batch, I don’t think he himself thought he would be drafted….which is a shame given his resume’. All the various NFL Draft media outlets had lists of pre-draft RBs a mile long, and I don’t recall (and can’t find now) any of them that have Batch listed as a RB prospect for this draft.
How did I miss Baron Batch?
I’m not going to advance that Batch is the best RB prospect in the 2011 NFL Draft. I would like to advance that he might be a 7th Round pick that fans or Fantasy Football players should not easily dismiss or ignore. Batch mathematically rated in our Top-3 “speed RBs” for 2011.
I would have love to have told you about this story pre-draft, except like most…we didn’t have him as a prospect either. We use several lists of prospects from various places and try to research and input every one of them into our statistical/algorithm system. Batch was nowhere to be found. After the Steelers selected him, we went back and asked ourselves…”who is Baron Batch“.
Batch’s 2010 is nothing anyone would get excited about, not that it was bad…it just looks like a hundred other good 2010 college RBs. For the season, Batch had 816 yards rushing, 32 catches, 8 TDs and an underwhelming 4.6 yards per carry…a nice season, nothing spectacular. As we input data based on his final year played last year, we noticed something — his 2009 season was a little better than his 2010, and that’s where the story starts to turn a little bit…
Baron Batch circa 2009
There is something very odd about Baron Batch’s 2009 Texas Tech season. His performance starts out slow against more lesser competition (except week-3 at Texas), but then something turns halfway through the 2009 season…Batch starts to get more carries, the Texas Tech schedule gets much tougher…and the exciting thing — Batch’s performance and workload went from mediocre, to very good and sometimes great.
Through his first 5 games of 2009 Batch was fairly quiet, but then as the Big-12 season kicked in…so did Batch.
2009 Season Rush Yds per game Rush TD per game Yds per carry Total Yds per game (rush+rec) 100 yd rush games
First 5 games 45.2 0.8 5.1 69.4 1
Last 8 games 82.5 1.2 5.3 116.8 3
Coming down the stretch of 2009, Batch has some big games against bigger teams:
58 yards rushing, 9 catches for 62 yards receiving (120 yards total) and a TD vs. Texas A&M
123 yards rushing on 17 carries and 4 rushing TDs vs. Kansas
136 yards on a season high 25 carries and 2 rushing TDs, with 7 catches for 68 yards (204 yards total) vs. Oklahoma
100 yards rushing and 2 TDs, with 6 catches for 85 yards in their Bowl Game win against Michigan State (185 yards total)
In the final 5 games of 2009 — Batch had three 100+ yard rushing games, 3 multi-TD games and over 5 catches per game average.
We do have to take into account that Texas Tech played in a gimmicky offense in 2009, but considering the level of competition and performance Batch had…we should at least take notice.
No 2011 NFL Combine invite for Baron Batch
Batch was not invited to the NFL Combine, which is a major snub. However, he did workout at the Texas Tech pro-day and caught attention…or at least Pittsburgh’s attention. Pro-Day results can be sketchy, but taking them at face value — Batch should have caught more teams eye. A solid 4.50 in the 40-yard dash, with an excellent 1.50 in the 10-yard dash. An upper tier 39 inch vertical jump, along with an upper tier 10’6? Broad Jump are all very nice numbers, where it really all comes together is — Batch bench pressed 24 reps, which is upper level for his size and speed. Physically speaking, Baron Batch has matches with very good NFL RBs, with some physical measurables of the future elite NFL RB’s. Something definitely worth a look in the 7th Round.
The NFL RB that is the best match of Baron batch in our system:
We looked through the system for “speed RBs” that were smaller in height with good speed and agility, and higher rated results in overall physical measurables and high strength metrics — as well as good/solid ratings in on-field performance metrics. Tashard Choice and Brandon Jackson were the closest matches in our system. Choice and Jackson may not get you ultra-excited for Batch, but for a 7th Round pick — it would be great productivity/value for the Steelers…and we haven’t ruled out Choice as having a some good/great seasons coming up. The big takeaway is, Batch might not be your typical forgotten/waived 7th Round RB…at least be aware of him.
LEGEND FOR RATINGS:
SPEED = a combination of speed measurements from the NFL Combine/Pro-Days, measured against our database on similar WRs
AGILITY = a combination of agility test measurements from the NFL Combine/Pro-Days, measured against our database on similar WRs
POWER = a combination of various physical measurements, measured against our database on similar RBs
HANDS = a combination of performance metrics and physical metrics to grade “hands” — not only an ability to catch the ball as a receiver, but for fumble potential as well. A unique/private metric of ours. We gave hands a “grade”, but receiving wasn’t a huge part of the analysis — rushing/running ability is what we focused on.
*school grade system, A+ being the best in class historically all the way to F- as historically the worst combination of metrics — all based on what WRs with those measurements did (or didn’t do) in the NFL.
Name College Yr 40-Yard Speed Agility Power Hands
Batch, Baron Texas Tech 2011 4.50 B B A A-
Choice, Tashard Georgia Tech 2008 4.48 B+ A- B+ D+
Jackson, Brandon Nebraska 2007 4.54 B A- B C
2011 Outlook for Baron Batch
Obviously, Rashard Mendenhall is #1 on the depth chart…although that seems a little more tenuous this week than last due to Twitter. Mendenhall will obviously be the #1 in 2011, but I can see Batch making this team as a 3rd-4th RB by bumping some more recent Steelers RB pickups out the door. There is also the possibility that Batch could be the heir apparent 3rd down RB now that Mewelde Moore is a free-agent (if I have his contract status correct). Batch caught 45-57-32 passes in the past 3 seasons at Texas Tech.
Batch is an interesting prospect and an interesting person, doing research on him — Batch grew up poor, mother dies at age 15, and Dad was away a lot. Batch overcame family obstacles and had a great academic performance in High School leading to offers from Duke, Northwestern, etc. Batch is famous for his online Blog, in which he has used to raise money for to pay for several kids education in Haiti. His character is notorious around Texas.
Great character, good/great physical measurables, and intriguing on-field performances make Baron Batch one to watch as coming out of this 2011 RB class better than most would expect. The Steelers have done it again, great scouting and a smart draft pick that many weren’t even aware of pre-draft…including me. I know him now…
I was doing some fantasy football research and found an article on the most unlikely of candidates...Baron Batch. Huh? If nothing else, there are a lot of interesting facts there. Guy must be a Steeler fan, check out the first couple paragraphs where he talks about the draft coverage; my thoughts exactly!
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Baron Batch Rookie RB — the Pittsburgh Steelers “Out-Scout” Everyone…as Usual
Posted on May 5, 2011 by R.C. Fischer
When it comes to the NFL Draft coverage, there is an odd phenomena that happens seemingly every year (or maybe it is selective memory?).
The 2011 coverage was no exception:
The reporters are all wrapped up in what the Patriots are doing with all their trading back, and making some kind of comments about Bill Belichick as a “mad genius”. It seemed much of the coverage I watched was focused on trying to figure out the Patriots Draft from the draft commentator’s perspective of — “I don’t understand what the Patriots are doing, but Belichick is super-smart, so what they’re doing must be super-smart”…
Bill Polian (Colts) is the elder statesman of the draft, so you will always get as few niceties about what the Colts are doing
We always get the obligatory — whoever just won the Super Bowl (Green Bay), “doesn’t need anything” so everyone they draft is just so devastating to the rest of the league because, “the rich are getting richer“. Does anyone remember when the Packers barely made the playoffs last year? I’m sure they have some areas of “need”?
All the high selecting teams, taking the recognizable names, are always on the TV coverage to boast about how pleased they are with their draft/picks …in theory shouldn’t the be embarrassed to even be seen on camera if they are picking in the top-10 for the 3rd-4th-5th-6th…year-in-a-row?
The one thing I don’t recall seeing this year, or last year — is the Pittsburgh Steelers on air bragging about their picks…nor do I recall the draft commentators spending as much/any time patting the Steelers on the back for their draft strategy either. Usually, the draft commentators are too busy falling all over whatever the Patriots are doing. At minimum, the Steelers are right there with the Patriots as the best franchise in the NFL over the past 6 years. Why don’t they get the same fawning “genius” NFL Draft label? I’m sure the Steelers are completely fine quietly out-drafting and out-scouting the competition.
A great example (to me) of the Steelers scouting prowess in the Draft, occurred in the 7th Round of the Draft this year.
While some 20+ RBs were selected ahead of him, the Steelers used their 7th Round pick on little known (pre-draft, or post-draft) Baron Batch out of Texas Tech. If you don’t know who Baron Batch is, join the club. Batch was not invited to the NFL Combine in 2011. Reading back story in Batch, I don’t think he himself thought he would be drafted….which is a shame given his resume’. All the various NFL Draft media outlets had lists of pre-draft RBs a mile long, and I don’t recall (and can’t find now) any of them that have Batch listed as a RB prospect for this draft.
How did I miss Baron Batch?
I’m not going to advance that Batch is the best RB prospect in the 2011 NFL Draft. I would like to advance that he might be a 7th Round pick that fans or Fantasy Football players should not easily dismiss or ignore. Batch mathematically rated in our Top-3 “speed RBs” for 2011.
I would have love to have told you about this story pre-draft, except like most…we didn’t have him as a prospect either. We use several lists of prospects from various places and try to research and input every one of them into our statistical/algorithm system. Batch was nowhere to be found. After the Steelers selected him, we went back and asked ourselves…”who is Baron Batch“.
Batch’s 2010 is nothing anyone would get excited about, not that it was bad…it just looks like a hundred other good 2010 college RBs. For the season, Batch had 816 yards rushing, 32 catches, 8 TDs and an underwhelming 4.6 yards per carry…a nice season, nothing spectacular. As we input data based on his final year played last year, we noticed something — his 2009 season was a little better than his 2010, and that’s where the story starts to turn a little bit…
Baron Batch circa 2009
There is something very odd about Baron Batch’s 2009 Texas Tech season. His performance starts out slow against more lesser competition (except week-3 at Texas), but then something turns halfway through the 2009 season…Batch starts to get more carries, the Texas Tech schedule gets much tougher…and the exciting thing — Batch’s performance and workload went from mediocre, to very good and sometimes great.
Through his first 5 games of 2009 Batch was fairly quiet, but then as the Big-12 season kicked in…so did Batch.
2009 Season Rush Yds per game Rush TD per game Yds per carry Total Yds per game (rush+rec) 100 yd rush games
First 5 games 45.2 0.8 5.1 69.4 1
Last 8 games 82.5 1.2 5.3 116.8 3
Coming down the stretch of 2009, Batch has some big games against bigger teams:
58 yards rushing, 9 catches for 62 yards receiving (120 yards total) and a TD vs. Texas A&M
123 yards rushing on 17 carries and 4 rushing TDs vs. Kansas
136 yards on a season high 25 carries and 2 rushing TDs, with 7 catches for 68 yards (204 yards total) vs. Oklahoma
100 yards rushing and 2 TDs, with 6 catches for 85 yards in their Bowl Game win against Michigan State (185 yards total)
In the final 5 games of 2009 — Batch had three 100+ yard rushing games, 3 multi-TD games and over 5 catches per game average.
We do have to take into account that Texas Tech played in a gimmicky offense in 2009, but considering the level of competition and performance Batch had…we should at least take notice.
No 2011 NFL Combine invite for Baron Batch
Batch was not invited to the NFL Combine, which is a major snub. However, he did workout at the Texas Tech pro-day and caught attention…or at least Pittsburgh’s attention. Pro-Day results can be sketchy, but taking them at face value — Batch should have caught more teams eye. A solid 4.50 in the 40-yard dash, with an excellent 1.50 in the 10-yard dash. An upper tier 39 inch vertical jump, along with an upper tier 10’6? Broad Jump are all very nice numbers, where it really all comes together is — Batch bench pressed 24 reps, which is upper level for his size and speed. Physically speaking, Baron Batch has matches with very good NFL RBs, with some physical measurables of the future elite NFL RB’s. Something definitely worth a look in the 7th Round.
The NFL RB that is the best match of Baron batch in our system:
We looked through the system for “speed RBs” that were smaller in height with good speed and agility, and higher rated results in overall physical measurables and high strength metrics — as well as good/solid ratings in on-field performance metrics. Tashard Choice and Brandon Jackson were the closest matches in our system. Choice and Jackson may not get you ultra-excited for Batch, but for a 7th Round pick — it would be great productivity/value for the Steelers…and we haven’t ruled out Choice as having a some good/great seasons coming up. The big takeaway is, Batch might not be your typical forgotten/waived 7th Round RB…at least be aware of him.
LEGEND FOR RATINGS:
SPEED = a combination of speed measurements from the NFL Combine/Pro-Days, measured against our database on similar WRs
AGILITY = a combination of agility test measurements from the NFL Combine/Pro-Days, measured against our database on similar WRs
POWER = a combination of various physical measurements, measured against our database on similar RBs
HANDS = a combination of performance metrics and physical metrics to grade “hands” — not only an ability to catch the ball as a receiver, but for fumble potential as well. A unique/private metric of ours. We gave hands a “grade”, but receiving wasn’t a huge part of the analysis — rushing/running ability is what we focused on.
*school grade system, A+ being the best in class historically all the way to F- as historically the worst combination of metrics — all based on what WRs with those measurements did (or didn’t do) in the NFL.
Name College Yr 40-Yard Speed Agility Power Hands
Batch, Baron Texas Tech 2011 4.50 B B A A-
Choice, Tashard Georgia Tech 2008 4.48 B+ A- B+ D+
Jackson, Brandon Nebraska 2007 4.54 B A- B C
2011 Outlook for Baron Batch
Obviously, Rashard Mendenhall is #1 on the depth chart…although that seems a little more tenuous this week than last due to Twitter. Mendenhall will obviously be the #1 in 2011, but I can see Batch making this team as a 3rd-4th RB by bumping some more recent Steelers RB pickups out the door. There is also the possibility that Batch could be the heir apparent 3rd down RB now that Mewelde Moore is a free-agent (if I have his contract status correct). Batch caught 45-57-32 passes in the past 3 seasons at Texas Tech.
Batch is an interesting prospect and an interesting person, doing research on him — Batch grew up poor, mother dies at age 15, and Dad was away a lot. Batch overcame family obstacles and had a great academic performance in High School leading to offers from Duke, Northwestern, etc. Batch is famous for his online Blog, in which he has used to raise money for to pay for several kids education in Haiti. His character is notorious around Texas.
Great character, good/great physical measurables, and intriguing on-field performances make Baron Batch one to watch as coming out of this 2011 RB class better than most would expect. The Steelers have done it again, great scouting and a smart draft pick that many weren’t even aware of pre-draft…including me. I know him now…




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