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  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3937

    Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

    Let's see the list you hope the Steelers have their eyes on. The Small School guys that didn't get a combine invite who the teams hope are the "diamond in the rough" kids in rounds 5-7. Let's see your Top 5 or throw a name out.

    David Mims-OT-Virginia Union
    Tommie Campbell-S-California (Pa)
    Josh Gatlin-CB-North Dakota State
    Demario Ballard-WR-Western Oregon
    Marc Schiechl-OLB-Colorado School of Mines
  • steelblood
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4166

    #2
    Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

    I like Mims. He sounds intriguing.

    How about...

    Ryan Jones CB NW Missouri ST. 5'11, 197. Runs a 4.42 40. Very good agility and size for the position.
    Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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    • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3937

      #3
      Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

      Originally posted by steelblood
      I like Mims. He sounds intriguing.

      How about...

      Ryan Jones CB NW Missouri ST. 5'11, 197. Runs a 4.42 40. Very good agility and size for the position.
      Good one. First time I heard the name. Looks like he may have a shot.

      Mims isn't a secret anymore and the dam Ravens are extremely interested. He had a hell of a proday.

      6' 8" 331, benched 29 times, has 36 7/8 arms with 86 1/2 wing span, ran a 5.32 40, 4.8 20s, 8.1 3 cone, 27" vert, and a 8'6" Broad. That is one big man who can move. 36 7/8" arms and 29 on the bench means this guy has power and pair that with a mean streak...I would love to see him play RT.



      [url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sleeper-tackle-David-Mims-out-to-prove-himself-in-NFL.html"]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sle ... n-NFL.html[/url]

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      • steelblood
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4166

        #4
        Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

        Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
        Originally posted by steelblood
        I like Mims. He sounds intriguing.

        How about...

        Ryan Jones CB NW Missouri ST. 5'11, 197. Runs a 4.42 40. Very good agility and size for the position.
        Good one. First time I heard the name. Looks like he may have a shot.

        Mims isn't a secret anymore and the dam Ravens are extremely interested. He had a hell of a proday.

        6' 8" 331, benched 29 times, has 36 7/8 arms with 86 1/2 wing span, ran a 5.32 40, 4.8 20s, 8.1 3 cone, 27" vert, and a 8'6" Broad. That is one big man who can move. 36 7/8" arms and 29 on the bench means this guy has power and pair that with a mean streak...I would love to see him play RT.



        [url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sleeper-tackle-David-Mims-out-to-prove-himself-in-NFL.html"]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sle ... n-NFL.html[/url]
        The Lions worked out Mims as well. I wonder if he is even on the STeelers' radar.
        Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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        • PSU_dropout43
          Starter
          • May 2009
          • 820

          #5
          Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

          Jeremy Kelley - Maine
          Height: 6055
          Weight: 223
          40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
          20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
          10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
          225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
          Vertical Jump: 42
          Broad Jump: 10'11"
          20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
          3-Cone Drill: 6.60
          Arm: 38 1/2
          Hand: 10 5/8
          Woman: "Sir, what have you given us?"
          Benjamin Franklin: "A Republic, madam, if you can keep it."

          [youtube:razli5ow]KFXuGIpsdE0[/youtube:razli5ow]

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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #6
            Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

            Originally posted by PSU_dropout43
            Jeremy Kelley - Maine
            Height: 6055
            Weight: 223
            40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
            20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
            10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
            225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
            Vertical Jump: 42
            Broad Jump: 10'11"
            20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
            3-Cone Drill: 6.60
            Arm: 38 1/2
            Hand: 10 5/8
            Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!

            LONGEST ARM
            Pos First Name Last Name School Arm
            WR Jeremy Kelley Maine 38 1/2
            OT David Mims Virginia Union 36 7/8
            DT Jack Hayes Belhaven (MS) 34 7/8
            DE Quinton Spears Prairie View A&M 34 7/8
            ILB Sidney Tarver Tennessee State 34 7/8
            NT Kenrick Ellis Hampton 34 7/8
            OT Ben Ijalana Villanova 34 7/8
            DT Teryl White North Carolina Central 34 3/4
            DE Tom McCarthy Yale 34 3/4
            DE Xavier Brown C.W. Post 34 3/4
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • insanesteelersfan
              Starter
              • Apr 2011
              • 713

              #7
              Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              Originally posted by PSU_dropout43
              Jeremy Kelley - Maine
              Height: 6055
              Weight: 223
              40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
              20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
              10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
              225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
              Vertical Jump: 42
              Broad Jump: 10'11"
              20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
              3-Cone Drill: 6.60
              Arm: 38 1/2
              Hand: 10 5/8
              Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!

              LONGEST ARM
              Pos First Name Last Name School Arm
              WR Jeremy Kelley Maine 38 1/2
              OT David Mims Virginia Union 36 7/8
              DT Jack Hayes Belhaven (MS) 34 7/8
              DE Quinton Spears Prairie View A&M 34 7/8
              ILB Sidney Tarver Tennessee State 34 7/8
              NT Kenrick Ellis Hampton 34 7/8
              OT Ben Ijalana Villanova 34 7/8
              DT Teryl White North Carolina Central 34 3/4
              DE Tom McCarthy Yale 34 3/4
              DE Xavier Brown C.W. Post 34 3/4


              Does arm length mean that one will fail ? I know Maurkice Pouncey's arms were very short. As were Casey Hamptons when we drafted him.

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              • RuthlessBurgher
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 33208

                #8
                Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

                Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                Originally posted by PSU_dropout43
                Jeremy Kelley - Maine
                Height: 6055
                Weight: 223
                40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
                20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
                10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
                225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
                Vertical Jump: 42
                Broad Jump: 10'11"
                20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
                3-Cone Drill: 6.60
                Arm: 38 1/2
                Hand: 10 5/8
                Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!

                LONGEST ARM
                Pos First Name Last Name School Arm
                WR Jeremy Kelley Maine 38 1/2
                OT David Mims Virginia Union 36 7/8
                DT Jack Hayes Belhaven (MS) 34 7/8
                DE Quinton Spears Prairie View A&M 34 7/8
                ILB Sidney Tarver Tennessee State 34 7/8
                NT Kenrick Ellis Hampton 34 7/8
                OT Ben Ijalana Villanova 34 7/8
                DT Teryl White North Carolina Central 34 3/4
                DE Tom McCarthy Yale 34 3/4
                DE Xavier Brown C.W. Post 34 3/4


                Does arm length mean that one will fail ? I know Maurkice Pouncey's arms were very short. As were Casey Hamptons when we drafted him.
                No...typically arm length is good (except when extraordinarily long arms makes it difficult for you to do many reps of 225 lbs at the combine). Pouncey's arms aren't very short. It was A.Q. Shipley who had the T-Rex arms.
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 3937

                  #9
                  Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  Originally posted by PSU_dropout43
                  Jeremy Kelley - Maine
                  Height: 6055
                  Weight: 223
                  40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
                  20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
                  10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
                  225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
                  Vertical Jump: 42
                  Broad Jump: 10'11"
                  20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
                  3-Cone Drill: 6.60
                  Arm: 38 1/2
                  Hand: 10 5/8
                  Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!
                  That arm length is sick but are those 20s & 3 cone right???? WOW! That lanky frame can change direction that well? I haven't heard of his. Is there character concerns or maybe he has stone hands. DAM

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                  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 3937

                    #10
                    Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

                    Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
                    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                    Originally posted by PSU_dropout43
                    Jeremy Kelley - Maine
                    Height: 6055
                    Weight: 223
                    40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
                    20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
                    10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
                    225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
                    Vertical Jump: 42
                    Broad Jump: 10'11"
                    20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
                    3-Cone Drill: 6.60
                    Arm: 38 1/2
                    Hand: 10 5/8
                    Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!

                    LONGEST ARM
                    Pos First Name Last Name School Arm
                    WR Jeremy Kelley Maine 38 1/2
                    OT David Mims Virginia Union 36 7/8
                    DT Jack Hayes Belhaven (MS) 34 7/8
                    DE Quinton Spears Prairie View A&M 34 7/8
                    ILB Sidney Tarver Tennessee State 34 7/8
                    NT Kenrick Ellis Hampton 34 7/8
                    OT Ben Ijalana Villanova 34 7/8
                    DT Teryl White North Carolina Central 34 3/4
                    DE Tom McCarthy Yale 34 3/4
                    DE Xavier Brown C.W. Post 34 3/4


                    Does arm length mean that one will fail ? I know Maurkice Pouncey's arms were very short. As were Casey Hamptons when we drafted him.
                    Arm length is associated with a players abilty to get off blocks, beat jam, basicly keep a player off you. A WR with that wingspan would have a big target radius and if he had good upper body strength, be able to get seperation from jam. I'm, intrigued now by this kid. I will have to do some research.

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                    • D Rock
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 2797

                      #11
                      Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

                      [quote=JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      Originally posted by "PSU_dropout43":hq43gixb
                      Jeremy Kelley - Maine
                      Height: 6055
                      Weight: 223
                      40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
                      20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
                      10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
                      225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
                      Vertical Jump: 42
                      Broad Jump: 10'11"
                      20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
                      3-Cone Drill: 6.60
                      Arm: 38 1/2
                      Hand: 10 5/8
                      Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!
                      That arm length is sick but are those 20s & 3 cone right???? WOW! That lanky frame can change direction that well? I haven't heard of his. Is there character concerns or maybe he has stone hands. DAM[/quote:hq43gixb]


                      He's got an 11 minute highlight video on youtube showing him blocking and playing special teams too. He was a part of kick and punt coverage, and appeared to be willing and able. I'd give him a shot late.

                      Think about it...a 6'5" receiver with arms 3" longer than anyone else, that essentially makes him at least 6'8" in terms of going up for the ball. Add in a 42" vertical and this dude is nearing 7' of functional height when fighting for a ball.

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                      • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 3937

                        #12
                        Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

                        [quote=D Rock][quote="JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":4yoa1uuu][quote=RuthlessBurgher][quote="PSU_dropout43":4yoa1uuu]Jeremy Kelley - Maine
                        Height: 6055
                        Weight: 223
                        40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
                        20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
                        10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
                        225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
                        Vertical Jump: 42
                        Broad Jump: 10'11"
                        20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
                        3-Cone Drill: 6.60
                        Arm: 38 1/2
                        Hand: 10 5/8[/quote]

                        Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!

                        [/quote]
                        That arm length is sick but are those 20s & 3 cone right???? WOW! That lanky frame can change direction that well? I haven't heard of his. Is there character concerns or maybe he has stone hands. DAM[/quote:4yoa1uuu]


                        He's got an 11 minute highlight video on youtube showing him blocking and playing special teams too. He was a part of kick and punt coverage, and appeared to be willing and able. I'd give him a shot late.

                        Think about it...a 6'5" receiver with arms 3" longer than anyone else, that essentially makes him at least 6'8" in terms of going up for the ball. Add in a 42" vertical and this dude is nearing 7' of functional height when fighting for a ball.[/quote:4yoa1uuu]

                        He is definately willing to play ST.

                        [url="http://www.pressherald.com/sports/season-ending-game-offers-chance-to-reflect_2010-11-20.html"]http://www.pressherald.com/sports/seaso ... 11-20.html[/url]
                        Jeremy Kelley arrived at Maine a touted wide receiver recruit from outside Buffalo, N.Y. After a tough redshirt freshman season, he saw a decreased role on offense every year.

                        Kelley put an article in his locker about former Black Bear Montell Owens, a standout special teams player for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

                        It was Kelley's saving grace.

                        "I remember telling (special teams) Coach (Kevin) Cahill that special teams was the only thing keeping me sane," said Kelley. "When I realized the importance of it, it was empowering. You don't have to have the ball in your hands every play to make an impact."

                        Kelley will be joined on the field today by his parents. He was estranged from his father until after high school.

                        He walked down his dad's driveway with newspaper clippings from his high school career, and their relationship took its first step.

                        Earlier this week it took another. Kelley phoned his father to invite him to his final game at Maine, and he agreed to come. It will be the first time he's seen his son play football.

                        "It's a good relationship now. I just put it out there," Jeremy Kelley said.

                        Kelley will pack up and leave campus for good on Sunday. He will do an internship at Yale University, then plans to head to California to train for NFL scouts in the spring. He was contacted on Facebook by track Olympian Maurice Green, who runs a training facility there.

                        "He told me he thinks he can make me fast," said Kelley, who dreams of a special teams career in the NFL.

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                        • focosteeler
                          Starter
                          • May 2010
                          • 760

                          #13
                          Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

                          Blaine Sumner.... NT out of Colorado School of Mines. 6-2, 335 / 5.2 40 / 33" Vertical / 50 reps 225. Bring him in as. FA, very raw but I want him for the simple fact he could put Hampton AND Starks on his back and squat them. they call him the vanilla gorilla for a reason he holds the american "raw squat" record 905lbs
                          [youtube:3lkh5cz3]2D38T-0I24s[/youtube:3lkh5cz3]
                          1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
                          2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
                          3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
                          4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
                          5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
                          6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
                          7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340

                          UDFA
                          DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
                          OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #14
                            Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

                            Originally posted by focosteeler
                            they call him the vanilla gorilla for a reason he holds the american "raw squat" record 905lbs
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • flippy
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 17088

                              #15
                              Re: Small School Non Combine Invite Sleepers?

                              How bout ALEX COOK, FORT VALLEY STATE?

                              I've never seen him. Just read he's been super impressive in really limited playing time. Could he be another James Harrison type of find? From the sounds of him he probably won't get drafted.
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