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  • insanesteelersfan
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    • Apr 2011
    • 713

    #16
    Re: Who would you draft..........

    Originally posted by StarSpangledSteeler
    The answer is Pouncey.

    He's the best player at his position (OG) since Hutchinson. Name me one interior OL prospect in the last 5 years who has looked significantly better coming out of college? (not counting Maurkice of course) The only one who even comes close is Iupati who I watched all year and the dude cannot pass block for shiz. Going back further is Mankins but I believe Pouncey is a better run blocker and equally as good in pass pro. We're talking about a can't miss who also could be a first year all-pro. The same could not be said (as confidently) about any of the others.

    Fairley is good but Suh was better.

    Dareus is good but Raji was better.



    Rodney Hudson is better then Pouncey is. Hudson in fact has graded out the best O-Linemen since Jon Ogden came out. Hudson was a starter since his freshmen season. He is a better Center for sure. But even as a Guard he graded out better then anyone. In 2008, against Boston College, Hudson was credited for 6 " Pancake " blocks on BJ Raji....6 my friend in ONE game! You know how many other times Raji was Pancaked in his college career ?...ZERO! Hudson has had no penalties called on him the past 2 years, and only 1 his entire career at Florida State. Pouncey is credited for having 17 penalties called on him just this past season alone. And Hudson has allowed only 1 1/2 sacks in his entire 4 years at Florida State.


    Sorry my friend but that sure sounds like the BEST OG in this draft to me.

    Peterson is good but Revis was better.

    Miller is good but Matthews/Merrimen were better.

    And I won't even address OT, WR, QB, TE, RB.

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    • PSU_dropout43
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      • May 2009
      • 820

      #17
      Re: Who would you draft..........

      Peterson. His size/speed ratio is on par with Rod Woodson's s/s ratio.

      Woodson 6'0 202 - 4.29
      Peterson 6'0 219 - 4.34

      Von Miller is my bust pick.
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      • RuthlessBurgher
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        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #18
        Re: Who would you draft..........

        Originally posted by PSU_dropout43
        Peterson. His size/speed ratio is on par with Rod Woodson.

        Woodson 6'0 202 - 4.29
        Peterson 6'0 219 - 4.34

        Von Miller is my bust pick.
        I wouldn't say that Miller will be a bust, but I am having Aaron Curry flashbacks about him. Everyone said that Curry was the sure-thing can't-miss prospect a couple of years ago, and he's been solid but not spectacular. I could see much the same for Miller. Taking linebackers that early doesn't seem to always lead to great players (A.J. Hawk is another example).
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • insanesteelersfan
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          • Apr 2011
          • 713

          #19
          Re: Who would you draft..........

          Originally posted by PSU_dropout43
          Peterson. His size/speed ratio is on par with Rod Woodson's s/s ratio.

          Woodson 6'0 202 - 4.29
          Peterson 6'0 219 - 4.34

          Von Miller is my bust pick.


          So, that doesn't mean anything. There have been a TON of DB's who were every bit as big and or as fast as either Peterson or Woodson who were complete Busts! Yeah, size/speed he may be on par with Rod,,but not talent, or on the field production.

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          • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 3937

            #20
            Re: Who would you draft..........

            Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
            Originally posted by StarSpangledSteeler
            The answer is Pouncey.

            He's the best player at his position (OG) since Hutchinson. Name me one interior OL prospect in the last 5 years who has looked significantly better coming out of college? (not counting Maurkice of course) The only one who even comes close is Iupati who I watched all year and the dude cannot pass block for shiz. Going back further is Mankins but I believe Pouncey is a better run blocker and equally as good in pass pro. We're talking about a can't miss who also could be a first year all-pro. The same could not be said (as confidently) about any of the others.

            Fairley is good but Suh was better.

            Dareus is good but Raji was better.



            Rodney Hudson is better then Pouncey is. Hudson in fact has graded out the best O-Linemen since Jon Ogden came out. Hudson was a starter since his freshmen season. He is a better Center for sure. But even as a Guard he graded out better then anyone. In 2008, against Boston College, Hudson was credited for 6 " Pancake " blocks on BJ Raji....6 my friend in ONE game! You know how many other times Raji was Pancaked in his college career ?...ZERO! Hudson has had no penalties called on him the past 2 years, and only 1 his entire career at Florida State. Pouncey is credited for having 17 penalties called on him just this past season alone. And Hudson has allowed only 1 1/2 sacks in his entire 4 years at Florida State.


            Sorry my friend but that sure sounds like the BEST OG in this draft to me.

            Peterson is good but Revis was better.

            Miller is good but Matthews/Merrimen were better.

            And I won't even address OT, WR, QB, TE, RB.
            I don't know who said it, but Hudson is the 4th or 5th interior guy in this draft. He is no comparison to Pouncey or Watkins. I could grade out 95% in an FSU offense. You want to see who Hudson is & what he played in, watch the highlight below. I had him graded out at 66%...Not one of his better highlight reels I guess. He's good & has potential but it may be limited with his frame. He struggles to hit his target in space and spends too much time on the ground. Mid 2nd round talent. I would be happy if the Steelers had him fall to their pick in the 2nd but I wouldn't spend #31 on him.



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            • insanesteelersfan
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              • Apr 2011
              • 713

              #21
              Re: Who would you draft..........

              Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
              Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
              Originally posted by StarSpangledSteeler
              The answer is Pouncey.

              He's the best player at his position (OG) since Hutchinson. Name me one interior OL prospect in the last 5 years who has looked significantly better coming out of college? (not counting Maurkice of course) The only one who even comes close is Iupati who I watched all year and the dude cannot pass block for shiz. Going back further is Mankins but I believe Pouncey is a better run blocker and equally as good in pass pro. We're talking about a can't miss who also could be a first year all-pro. The same could not be said (as confidently) about any of the others.

              Fairley is good but Suh was better.






              I'm sorry, I fail to see what the hell that video shows. I can show you one where Pouncey gets rolled over several times this season, and has several bad snaps as a Center. So what is your point ? As it goes to size and strength, Hudson is 4 Lbs lighter then Pouncey, and he is already stronger. He clearly has it all over Pouncey when it come to Balance, and quickness and technique. Pouncey could have shown what he could do against the best at the Senior Bowl. But he declined to even attend. As where Hudson was considered by far the best O-linemen during the week of practices. Practices that had him facing the best of the best in D-Linemen in this draft, and he more then held his own. So I'm sure you are TRYING to make a point here....I just can't figure out what it is





              Dareus is good but Raji was better.



              Rodney Hudson is better then Pouncey is. Hudson in fact has graded out the best O-Linemen since Jon Ogden came out. Hudson was a starter since his freshmen season. He is a better Center for sure. But even as a Guard he graded out better then anyone. In 2008, against Boston College, Hudson was credited for 6 " Pancake " blocks on BJ Raji....6 my friend in ONE game! You know how many other times Raji was Pancaked in his college career ?...ZERO! Hudson has had no penalties called on him the past 2 years, and only 1 his entire career at Florida State. Pouncey is credited for having 17 penalties called on him just this past season alone. And Hudson has allowed only 1 1/2 sacks in his entire 4 years at Florida State.


              Sorry my friend but that sure sounds like the BEST OG in this draft to me.

              Peterson is good but Revis was better.

              Miller is good but Matthews/Merrimen were better.

              And I won't even address OT, WR, QB, TE, RB.
              I don't know who said it, but Hudson is the 4th or 5th interior guy in this draft. He is no comparison to Pouncey or Watkins. I could grade out 95% in an FSU offense. You want to see who Hudson is & what he played in, watch the highlight below. I had him graded out at 66%...Not one of his better highlight reels I guess. He's good & has potential but it may be limited with his frame. He struggles to hit his target in space and spends too much time on the ground. Mid 2nd round talent. I would be happy if the Steelers had him fall to their pick in the 2nd but I wouldn't spend #31 on him.



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              • NJ-STEELER
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                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #22
                Re: Who would you draft..........

                Originally posted by PSU_dropout43
                Peterson. His size/speed ratio is on par with Rod Woodson's s/s ratio.

                Woodson 6'0 202 - 4.29
                Peterson 6'0 219 - 4.34

                .
                another thing that reminded of him was his returning skills...top notch

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                • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 3937

                  #23
                  Re: Who would you draft..........

                  Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
                  I'm sorry, I fail to see what the hell that video shows. I can show you one where Pouncey gets rolled over several times this season, and has several bad snaps as a Center. So what is your point ? As it goes to size and strength, Hudson is 4 Lbs lighter then Pouncey, and he is already stronger. He clearly has it all over Pouncey when it come to Balance, and quickness and technique. Pouncey could have shown what he could do against the best at the Senior Bowl. But he declined to even attend. As where Hudson was considered by far the best O-linemen during the week of practices. Practices that had him facing the best of the best in D-Linemen in this draft, and he more then held his own. So I'm sure you are TRYING to make a point here....I just can't figure out what it is


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                  It is no suprise you can't see anything bad in the video. It crushes everything you say about him. How many times was he on the ground? How many times did he miss his target? How many times does he struggle to change direction? Hudson has n.o.t.h.i.n.g. on Mike Pouncey. Pouncey's best position isn't C. You want to see what a Stud OG looks like??? Watch Pouncey playing RG in 2009. You are way off thinking they are close. I have no problem with Hudson in the 2nd. Now way at #31. But guess what...In less than a week we will see who the fool is. How high does Pouncey go versus Hudson. We will see who was far off.

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                  • insanesteelersfan
                    Starter
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 713

                    #24
                    Re: Who would you draft..........

                    Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                    Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
                    I'm sorry, I fail to see what the hell that video shows. I can show you one where Pouncey gets rolled over several times this season, and has several bad snaps as a Center. So what is your point ? As it goes to size and strength, Hudson is 4 Lbs lighter then Pouncey, and he is already stronger. He clearly has it all over Pouncey when it come to Balance, and quickness and technique. Pouncey could have shown what he could do against the best at the Senior Bowl. But he declined to even attend. As where Hudson was considered by far the best O-linemen during the week of practices. Practices that had him facing the best of the best in D-Linemen in this draft, and he more then held his own. So I'm sure you are TRYING to make a point here....I just can't figure out what it is


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                    It is no suprise you can't see anything bad in the video. It crushes everything you say about him. How many times was he on the ground? How many times did he miss his target? How many times does he struggle to change direction? Hudson has n.o.t.h.i.n.g. on Mike Pouncey. Pouncey's best position isn't C. You want to see what a Stud OG looks like??? Watch Pouncey playing RG in 2009. You are way off thinking they are close. I have no problem with Hudson in the 2nd. Now way at #31. But guess what...In less than a week we will see who the fool is. How high does Pouncey go versus Hudson. We will see who was far off.






                    We'll see how high Pouncey goes vs Hudson...LOL!! Oh, and that makes Pouncey a better player ? Hey MENSA...Do me a favor, here is the OFFICIAL list from the AP All-SEC 1st team in 2010. Please show me where Mike Pouncey is











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                    2010 All SEC first team

                    QB Cam Newton, Auburn*
                    RB Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina*
                    RB Knile Davis, Arkansas
                    Util Randall Cobb, Kentucky
                    WR Julio Jones, Alabama
                    WR Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
                    TE D.J. Williams, Arkansas*
                    OL Derrick Sherrod, Mississippi State
                    OL Barrett Jones, Alabama
                    OL DeMarcus Love, Arkansas
                    OL Ryan Pugh, Auburn
                    OL Lee Ziemba, Auburn





                    Again my little uneducated BOY........

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                    • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
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                      • May 2008
                      • 3937

                      #25
                      Re: Who would you draft..........

                      Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
                      We'll see how high Pouncey goes vs Hudson...LOL!! Oh, and that makes Pouncey a better player ? Hey MENSA...Do me a favor, here is the OFFICIAL list from the AP All-SEC 1st team in 2010. Please show me where Mike Pouncey is

                      2010 All SEC first team

                      QB Cam Newton, Auburn*
                      RB Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina*
                      RB Knile Davis, Arkansas
                      Util Randall Cobb, Kentucky
                      WR Julio Jones, Alabama
                      WR Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
                      TE D.J. Williams, Arkansas*
                      OL Derrick Sherrod, Mississippi State
                      OL Barrett Jones, Alabama
                      OL DeMarcus Love, Arkansas
                      OL Ryan Pugh, Auburn
                      OL Lee Ziemba, Auburn





                      Again my little uneducated BOY........

                      You never owned anyone in here especially me. Pouncey made a position change in 2010 and still made second team. And yes, it makes him a better player if he goes higher tha Hudson. That's how the draft works McFly...The higher graded players get drafted higher. College accolades don't mean anything going to the next level. If that was the case Heisman's would be going 1st pick. Watch the films. Hudson is a good player but he isn't Pouncey. Hudson has his flaws and may be limited at the next level. I would be pleased with the Steelers using a 2nd to get him. Pouncey has his flaws to but if you are going evaluate him on 2010 at C...Then your are a bigger fool than your post show. Isn't that the 3rd or 4th time you used your fearless internet alter ego to place the "owned" smiley in your post? You make a bigger fool of yourself with every post. God help us all if you make it to 50 posts.

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                      • WoodleyofTroy
                        Starter
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 709

                        #26
                        Re: Who would you draft..........

                        James Neal.
                        "That's just Ben being Superman" -John Madden, Super Bowl XLIII

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                        • insanesteelersfan
                          Starter
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 713

                          #27
                          Re: Who would you draft..........

                          Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                          Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
                          We'll see how high Pouncey goes vs Hudson...LOL!! Oh, and that makes Pouncey a better player ? Hey MENSA...Do me a favor, here is the OFFICIAL list from the AP All-SEC 1st team in 2010. Please show me where Mike Pouncey is

                          2010 All SEC first team

                          QB Cam Newton, Auburn*
                          RB Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina*
                          RB Knile Davis, Arkansas
                          Util Randall Cobb, Kentucky
                          WR Julio Jones, Alabama
                          WR Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
                          TE D.J. Williams, Arkansas*
                          OL Derrick Sherrod, Mississippi State
                          OL Barrett Jones, Alabama
                          OL DeMarcus Love, Arkansas
                          OL Ryan Pugh, Auburn
                          OL Lee Ziemba, Auburn





                          Again my little uneducated BOY........

                          You never owned anyone in here especially me. Pouncey made a position change in 2010 and still made second team. And yes, it makes him a better player if he goes higher tha Hudson. That's how the draft works McFly...The higher graded players get drafted higher.



                          Really ? In 2006, was Revis the highest rated CB ? ( NO )...but he was drafted first. And in the 200 draft,,,,Chad Pennington, Chris Redman, and our own Tee Martin were considered the HIGHEST rated QB's in that draft. And ALL of them were drafted before Tom Brady....so, are they better ?



                          Keep on spewing son. And I will keep on As you will forever be by me!

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                          • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 3937

                            #28
                            Re: Who would you draft..........

                            Originally posted by insanesteelersfan
                            Keep on spewing son. And I will keep on As you will forever be by me!
                            Do you even see where you went? Went from Hudson vs Pouncey, to all ACC, consensus, to talking about Revis, Pennington, Redman. Talk about panic.

                            This is funny if you think you owned anyone. All I see is everyone disagreeing with everyone of your posts. Everyone of your statements have flaws and exceptions but when you are challenged or corrected..You change your course. You are my B!tch...Deal with it. Called me out and got your face flatened. No where to go to save face. Panic & contempt has set in. The evidence is in every post you write in here to me...Your insecurity has you ending everyone with "owned". Self destruct mode is already engaged. Sad..Sad thing to watch. Nobody knows who you are...Just walk away & think it was a dream. The only one who will ever know what a fool you were is you. You could live with that...Look what you you endure every day of your life...You!

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