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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
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    #31
    Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

    Originally posted by Blockhead
    Every player is replaceable. Are you saying the NFL franchises that have star players will cease making money and go out of business when the star player leaves?
    No.. I didn't say that. I said if ALL the star players are replaced with scabs, scrubs and draft picks this year the league will take a huge hit in ratings in revenue.

    But since the stars are replaceable why don't the owners do just that? Could it be these stars actually generate more money then the scrubs? There has to be a reason these owners are paying crazy amounts of money to these guys.


    Originally posted by Blockhead
    Who said they are hurting? They should make huge money and in many cases they are not, sometimes less than what their star player earns. That's just not right.
    You are the one repeating how the owners are hurting for profits in the NFL....

    If an owner doesn't think it's right for the star to make more than he/she does they can trade the guy or cut him. It's not like all the fans in the stand have the stars jersey on..lol
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    • Blockhead
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      • Feb 2011
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      #32
      Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

      Well, if they de-certify and try litigation, I am sure players like Ben, who won't now be part of a collective union, will be there to collect his $11 million. It's not like he has any other way of earning that type of money.

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      • Crash
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        • Apr 2009
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        #33
        Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

        Love how this grass puffing moron with a new alias has somehow managed to take cheap shots at Ben when this is about the league as a whole.

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        • SteelCrazy
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          • Aug 2008
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          #34
          Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

          The owners, owners being the key word here, can do as they please. Until we are no longer a capitalist country, they have the right to pay their players whatever they want. If the players dont accept that, well they'll find new players that will. My dad worked in a coal mine and made around 50,000 a year and more men died while he worked in the mines that have ever died in the NFL. No, I'm not saying the players should make 50 g's a year, but in the grand scheme of things, they would be lucky to make that little.
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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
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            #35
            Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

            Originally posted by Blockhead
            Well, if they de-certify and try litigation, I am sure players like Ben, who won't now be part of a collective union, will be there to collect his $11 million. It's not like he has any other way of earning that type of money.

            How do you know Ben isn't a good investor?

            These players put so much time into football it's insane... who knows what these guys would be if they applied all their athleticism in other things because football wasn't a lucrative sport?
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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
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              #36
              Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

              Originally posted by SteelCrazy
              The owners, owners being the key word here, can do as they please. Until we are no longer a capitalist country, they have the right to pay their players whatever they want. If the players dont accept that, well they'll find new players that will. My dad worked in a coal mine and made around 50,000 a year and more men died while he worked in the mines that have ever died in the NFL. No, I'm not saying the players should make 50 g's a year, but in the grand scheme of things, they would be lucky to make that little.
              If your Dad thinks he is worth 100K and walks in and gets a raise is he wrong for it?

              People are jealous of athletes and I get it... they make a ton of money but why is that wrong? Why is it wrong for them to make millions if they can?

              The owners aren't forced to pay these players big money... they can trade, release and cut these guys but they aren't because most are worth what they get paid.

              When they are no longer worth that amount they move on... why is this so hard to understand?

              No one is holding a gun to the owners head and telling them to spend all the money.
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              • Blockhead
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                • Feb 2011
                • 298

                #37
                Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Originally posted by Blockhead
                Well, if they de-certify and try litigation, I am sure players like Ben, who won't now be part of a collective union, will be there to collect his $11 million. It's not like he has any other way of earning that type of money.

                How do you know Ben isn't a good investor?

                These players put so much time into football it's insane... who knows what these guys would be if they applied all their athleticism in other things because football wasn't a lucrative sport?
                I don't. I said I doubt there is anywhere he can ern $11 million this year in five months of work. I'm sure without a union he would likely come to work versus forgo his salary.

                These players put no more into football than people who run businesses, likely less as the business season isn't half the year.

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                • Blockhead
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                  • Feb 2011
                  • 298

                  #38
                  Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

                  Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                  The owners, owners being the key word here, can do as they please. Until we are no longer a capitalist country, they have the right to pay their players whatever they want. If the players dont accept that, well they'll find new players that will.
                  Exactly. Nobody is forcing them to play football.

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                  • Crash
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                    • Apr 2009
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                    #39
                    Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

                    Originally posted by Blockhead
                    Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                    The owners, owners being the key word here, can do as they please. Until we are no longer a capitalist country, they have the right to pay their players whatever they want. If the players dont accept that, well they'll find new players that will.
                    Exactly. Nobody is forcing them to play football.
                    Nobody forces the owners to own teams also.

                    If they don't make enough money they can always sell, no?

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                    • Blockhead
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                      • Feb 2011
                      • 298

                      #40
                      Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

                      Originally posted by Crash
                      Originally posted by Blockhead
                      Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                      The owners, owners being the key word here, can do as they please. Until we are no longer a capitalist country, they have the right to pay their players whatever they want. If the players dont accept that, well they'll find new players that will.
                      Exactly. Nobody is forcing them to play football.
                      Nobody forces the owners to own teams also.

                      If they don't make enough money they can always sell, no?
                      Yeah, that's the answer all owners should take to rising expenses. Wow, what a novel thought. Leave the business to the grown ups.

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                      • SteelCrazy
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                        • Aug 2008
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                        #41
                        Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                        The owners, owners being the key word here, can do as they please. Until we are no longer a capitalist country, they have the right to pay their players whatever they want. If the players dont accept that, well they'll find new players that will. My dad worked in a coal mine and made around 50,000 a year and more men died while he worked in the mines that have ever died in the NFL. No, I'm not saying the players should make 50 g's a year, but in the grand scheme of things, they would be lucky to make that little.
                        If your Dad thinks he is worth 100K and walks in and gets a raise is he wrong for it?

                        People are jealous of athletes and I get it... they make a ton of money but why is that wrong? Why is it wrong for them to make millions if they can?

                        The owners aren't forced to pay these players big money... they can trade, release and cut these guys but they aren't because most are worth what they get paid.

                        When they are no longer worth that amount they move on... why is this so hard to understand?

                        No one is holding a gun to the owners head and telling them to spend all the money.
                        I'm not jealous of the athletes or what they make, well, maybe I am a little jealous of their abilities and wish I could have made it into the NFL. However, this is all up to the owners. If they wanted, they could shut down the NFL and laugh at all of us. The players have to understand that they are under the mercy of the owners, but they do have the right to ask for a raise, but on the other hand, they know they run the risk of losing a lot of money while doing it.
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                        • feltdizz
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                          • May 2008
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                          #42
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                          Originally posted by Blockhead
                          Originally posted by Crash
                          Originally posted by Blockhead
                          Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                          The owners, owners being the key word here, can do as they please. Until we are no longer a capitalist country, they have the right to pay their players whatever they want. If the players dont accept that, well they'll find new players that will.
                          Exactly. Nobody is forcing them to play football.
                          Nobody forces the owners to own teams also.

                          If they don't make enough money they can always sell, no?
                          Yeah, that's the answer all owners should take to rising expenses. Wow, what a novel thought. Leave the business to the grown ups.
                          Owners have never sold teams due to shrinking profit margins or losses?
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                          • Crash
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                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5008

                            #43
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                            Owners have never sold teams due to shrinking profit margins or losses?
                            Art Rooney Sr. did.

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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
                              • 27532

                              #44
                              Re: Rick Reily lets owners have it

                              Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                              The owners, owners being the key word here, can do as they please. Until we are no longer a capitalist country, they have the right to pay their players whatever they want. If the players dont accept that, well they'll find new players that will. My dad worked in a coal mine and made around 50,000 a year and more men died while he worked in the mines that have ever died in the NFL. No, I'm not saying the players should make 50 g's a year, but in the grand scheme of things, they would be lucky to make that little.
                              If your Dad thinks he is worth 100K and walks in and gets a raise is he wrong for it?

                              People are jealous of athletes and I get it... they make a ton of money but why is that wrong? Why is it wrong for them to make millions if they can?

                              The owners aren't forced to pay these players big money... they can trade, release and cut these guys but they aren't because most are worth what they get paid.

                              When they are no longer worth that amount they move on... why is this so hard to understand?

                              No one is holding a gun to the owners head and telling them to spend all the money.
                              I'm not jealous of the athletes or what they make, well, maybe I am a little jealous of their abilities and wish I could have made it into the NFL. However, this is all up to the owners. If they wanted, they could shut down the NFL and laugh at all of us. The players have to understand that they are under the mercy of the owners, but they do have the right to ask for a raise, but on the other hand, they know they run the risk of losing a lot of money while doing it.
                              A business is only as successful as the employees who run it.

                              Both parties run the risk of losing a lot of money and this is why they keep extending the deadline.

                              People who say the owners can do what they want because they have all the power aren't living in the real world.

                              The NHL found out first hand what happens when owners think they have all the power. They end up on Versus with low ratings...
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                              • Crash
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                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5008

                                #45
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                                The NHL found out first hand what happens when owners think they have all the power. They end up on Versus with low ratings...
                                Yep. The beat the NHLPA, but they damaged their own sports national exposure in the US.

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