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  • Crash
    Legend
    • Apr 2009
    • 5008

    #46
    Re: RIP NFL

    Editorial: NFL Owners' Greed, Hypocrisy Clouds Their Finest Hour

    by CHRIS LANDERS
    FEB. 10, 2011

    As the confetti streamed down onto the victorious Green Bay Packers at the end of Super Bowl XLV, the National Football League and its fans should have been rejoicing. The Packers and the Pittsburgh Steelers — arguably the two most storied franchises in the game — had just played one of the tightest contests in recent memory. An eminently marketable star was born in Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers. A whopping 111 million people tuned in to the game, making it the most watched event in American television history. And yet, during the league’s finest hour, that confetti in the air felt more like a storm cloud.

    On Mar. 4, the league’s collective bargaining agreement between the owners and the players’ union will expire, meaning there will be no football until a compromise is reached. With the amount of inflammatory rhetoric coming from both sides, a compromise does not look forthcoming. Right now, the only thing that can slow down the economic freight train that is the NFL is the NFL itself.

    It’s time for the adults to come forward and solve this, and most of the blame for the huge gap between the two sides has to fall at the feet of the owners.

    I should preface this argument by saying I realize how ridiculous the situation is. These are millionaires arguing with billionaires over who will end up slightly less obscenely rich, all while playing a kid’s game. I get it. That being said, here’s why the players are in the right (and right, in this case, is a very relative term).

    The debate can more or less be boiled down to two issues, both of which are demands from the owners: redistribution of revenue and a longer regular season.

    The owners are asking for an extra 18 percent of total annual revenue — a total of $1 billion — because they are allegedly losing money due to increased operating costs, despite a decade of unprecedented prosperity for the NFL. Yet the owners refuse to open their books to the players to prove that they’re losing money.

    The only team that has released financial records is the Packers, who are legally obligated to do so because they are a publicly owned franchise. Oddly enough, Green Bay’s finances tell a different story than the owners. The last two seasons, the team has averaged a net profit of over $4 million. From 2003–2008, that number was an unfathomable $20 million. Keep in mind that those profits were posted in a city with a population of about 100,000, by far the smallest of any team in the NFL.

    The owners are essentially asking the players to hand over one billion dollars without offering any justification. The owners are the ones handing out irresponsibly overpriced contracts to undeserving players. Football is far and away this country’s most popular sport and the NFL should be a cash cow by default. The Carolina Panthers, who finished with a dreadful 2–14 record last season, still had an average attendance of over 70,000 people per game. That’s not to mention the lucrative TV deals struck with networks like FOX and CBS, and none of that money goes to the players. If a team is bleeding cash, a hypothetical without any basis in fact, it has no one but its shortsighted owner to blame.

    The hypocrisy of the owners doesn’t end there. The other main point of contention has been the desire of the owners to add two extra games to the current 16-game regular season schedule. The league has cited the possible increase in revenue as well as the public’s disdain for preseason games as reasons for the move.

    However, the lack of tolerance for preseason games is just that: a lack of tolerance for preseason games. Just because fans don’t want to watch — much less pay to see — third-string players battle it out in August doesn’t mean they’re clamoring for more regular season football. In fact, a recently released poll showed lukewarm support at best for the longer season. The league and the owners are trying to force a correlation between the two because of the extra cash that one more home game would generate.

    The proposed schedule also flies directly in the face of the league’s movement to ensure the long-term health of its players. Commissioner Roger Goodell instituted stricter rules regarding on-field hits, levying severe fines of up to $125,000 to players who endangered others with blows to the head. The NFL has also been under fire regarding its policies on concussions and lack of health benefits for retired players.

    How then, in light of this increased awareness of the importance of player safety spearheaded by the league itself, can an extended regular season be feasible? The players’ reaction has been predictable, with most agreeing that risking their bodies for two more paychecks simply isn’t worth it.

    What could possibly be the justification for these demands? Pure and simple greed. The owners aren’t losing money; in fact, they’re riding the wave of an economic golden goose that has grown into a $9 billion industry in spite of a recession. The owners couldn’t care less about player safety as long as it doesn’t conflict with the bottom line.

    These are billionaires whose egos have been hurt, and their reaction has been incredibly immature. This shouldn’t be about how many zeros you can add to your net worth, it’s about putting a great product out for fans to enjoy and letting players prosper safely. Every action taken by ownership has been a thinly veiled attempt to exact revenge on the players’ union and add to already unfathomable riches. This should be the time where the NFL takes its popularity to new heights, and the league can’t get out of its own way because of the hypocrisy and greed of its owners.

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    • Blockhead
      Backup
      • Feb 2011
      • 298

      #47
      Re: RIP NFL

      Originally posted by Crash
      Fans don't want 18 games. They want a break in cost of pre-season tickets.
      I'm a fan. I'll gladly take two less pre-season games for 2 more regular season games.

      I couldn't care less about pre-season tickets. The years I bought seasons, I just sold them off for close to face.

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      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #48
        Re: RIP NFL

        Originally posted by Blockhead
        Originally posted by Crash
        Fans don't want 18 games. They want a break in cost of pre-season tickets.
        I'm a fan. I'll gladly take two less pre-season games for 2 more regular season games.

        I couldn't care less about pre-season tickets. The years I bought seasons, I just sold them off for close to face.
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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        • Blockhead
          Backup
          • Feb 2011
          • 298

          #49
          Re: RIP NFL

          Originally posted by Crash
          The owners are asking for an extra 18 percent of total annual revenue — a total of $1 billion — because they are allegedly losing money due to increased operating costs, despite a decade of unprecedented prosperity for the NFL. Yet the owners refuse to open their books to the players to prove that they’re losing money.
          Seems perfectly reasonable to me. When the business needs to cut expenses, they do it.

          If the players want to go elsewhere for work, they are more than welcome to do so.

          No business should open their books to their employees. The franchises all act seperately as businesses and own different parts in their businesses, stadiums, parking lots, etc. It would be incredibly stupid to base the salaries on the books. It would kill the smaller market teams and make a baseball like system, that's why the cap is based on "shared" revenues. That's what makes it a level playing field.

          The books are none of the employees business..

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            #50
            Re: RIP NFL

            Originally posted by Blockhead
            Originally posted by Crash
            The owners are asking for an extra 18 percent of total annual revenue — a total of $1 billion — because they are allegedly losing money due to increased operating costs, despite a decade of unprecedented prosperity for the NFL. Yet the owners refuse to open their books to the players to prove that they’re losing money.
            Seems perfectly reasonable to me. When the business needs to cut expenses, they do it.

            If the players want to go elsewhere for work, they are more than welcome to do so.

            No business should open their books to their employees. The franchises all act seperately as businesses and own different parts in their businesses, stadiums, parking lots, etc. It would be incredibly stupid to base the salaries on the books. It would kill the smaller market teams and make a baseball like system, that's why the cap is based on "shared" revenues. That's what makes it a level playing field.

            The books are none of the employees business..
            Obviously you are someone who really understands business where the people who own the business actually run the business and don't ask the employees for permission to make decisions.

            If you don't like working for a business that operates that way, get another job that pays you hundreds of thousands of dollars. Oh I'm sorry NFLPA, you can't get those kind of jobs. The NFL is a business not the equivalent of a public works program for athletes.
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • Blockhead
              Backup
              • Feb 2011
              • 298

              #51
              Re: RIP NFL

              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Obviously you are someone who really understands business where the people who own the business actually run the business and don't ask the employees for permission to make decisions.

              If you don't like working for a business that operates that way, get another job that pays you hundreds of thousands of dollars. Oh I'm sorry NFLPA, you can't get those kind of jobs. The NFL is a business not the equivalent of a public works program for athletes.
              I've been self-employed the last 11 years and have owned and/or sold/liquidated multiple businesses. I will tend to lean towards the owners. Owners accept the risk. Employees are free to go anywhere else and work.

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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #52
                Re: RIP NFL

                Originally posted by Blockhead
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                Obviously you are someone who really understands business where the people who own the business actually run the business and don't ask the employees for permission to make decisions.

                If you don't like working for a business that operates that way, get another job that pays you hundreds of thousands of dollars. Oh I'm sorry NFLPA, you can't get those kind of jobs. The NFL is a business not the equivalent of a public works program for athletes.
                I've been self-employed the last 11 years and have owned and/or sold/liquidated multiple businesses. I will tend to lean towards the owners. Owners accept the risk. Employees are free to go anywhere else and work.
                I'm a manager responsible for profit and loss. I understand how to run a business too. If you want the NFL to fail let it become baseball where a players union dictates terms of employment to the detriment of the product.

                The reality is that unions are useless. They had a purpose during the transition from an agrarian economy to an urban, indutrial economy but in the last 30-40 years they have ultimately cost more jobs than they saved (ask steelworkers and auto workers) because they are totally focused on the short term to the detriment of all else.
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • Crash
                  Legend
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5008

                  #53
                  Re: RIP NFL

                  So if the deal was so bad, why did the owners agree to it?

                  If anything this "cut" is only trying to happen because other owners (Like Kraft, and Jones) want to eliminate the revenue sharing plans of decades past.

                  The players are willing to help, but the owners don't want to show the books.

                  I think any employee group who is being held ransom for an 18% cut? Should be allowed to see why.

                  I've been self-employed the last 11 years and have owned and/or sold/liquidated multiple businesses.
                  Just like 43. Imagine that, junkie boy.

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                  • Blockhead
                    Backup
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 298

                    #54
                    Re: RIP NFL

                    Originally posted by Crash
                    So if the deal was so bad, why did the owners agree to it?
                    Current circumstances. The players had swung the momentum and leverage. That's why the owners accepted, added an out clause and started preparing to get the leverage back. It's common negotiating tactics.
                    Originally posted by Crash
                    If anything this "cut" is only trying to happen because other owners (Like Kraft, and Jones) want to eliminate the revenue sharing plans of decades past.
                    That's incorrect. The vast majority of the owners like revenue sharing and realize the benefits.
                    Originally posted by Crash
                    The players are willing to help, but the owners don't want to show the books.

                    I think any employee group who is being held ransom for an 18% cut? Should be allowed to see why.
                    Books are no business of the employees. If the employees don't like the terms of their employment, they can refuse to work. Nobody forced Ben to sign his extension. He is free to go elsewhere and use his abilities to make that $102 million.

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                    • Blockhead
                      Backup
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 298

                      #55
                      Re: RIP NFL

                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      I'm a manager responsible for profit and loss. I understand how to run a business too. If you want the NFL to fail let it become baseball where a players union dictates terms of employment to the detriment of the product.
                      I used to hold a position similar where my bonus was based on profits.
                      Originally posted by Oviedo
                      The reality is that unions are useless. They had a purpose during the transition from an agrarian economy to an urban, indutrial economy but in the last 30-40 years they have ultimately cost more jobs than they saved (ask steelworkers and auto workers) because they are totally focused on the short term to the detriment of all else.
                      Unions are not useless but they typically cause more damage because they view their membership and union as bigger leverage than it is. Many businesses have simply closed and moved because of unions. How'd that work out for the membership?

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                      • Chadman
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 6537

                        #56
                        Re: RIP NFL

                        From Chadman's limited knowledge of what is going on-

                        1. The owners really DON'T need to open the books for it's employee's. As a business owner, I know it's not my employee's business to know how much profit or loss I make any given week, month or year. It is, as has been mentioned by a couple of posters, the OWNERS that put their financial well being on the line by signing players to big salaries, building stadiums, gift shops, or any other type of expense- not the players. The players are employees- paid to do their job, not risk their own money. If they have no financial outlay invested in the NFL, why do they get to dictate any of the financial decisions that need to be made at the management level? Do the owners have the right to demand the players show them their bank account details? What they spend their money on? No? Why is it fair to demand the reverse??

                        2. The players are being asked to accept less money.....really? Are the owners going to demand that all players signed to current contracts must shave 5-10% off the agreed amount of that contract? No? So- how are the players losing money? No- what is REALLY happening is this- the owners have decided to not allow player wages to increase beyond what they are comfortable paying. It's really, kind of a reasonable thing to do- who wants to lose money after all? It will mean that players can't just demand 10% more than so-and-so did last season in an attempt to get the manager a better cut on the deal..

                        3. The Owners are not earning less every year due to costs. No- not on the books, they are not. However- percentage wise, the profit margin is decreasing due to player wage rises. Instead of allowing this to continue, the owners are nipping it in the bud before they actually do get to a point where they lose money every year. The owners possibly have not explained that in a way that the media/players have picked up on- possibly by design in some respect- but it's extremely likely that the percentage increase/decrease in profit is the issue- not actually losing money, but losing earning capacity.

                        4. Chadman was of the thinking that the 18 game schedule was an option put forward by the owners to appease the players demands for a larger slice of the pie. As in- ok, you can have more money if we can have the ability to earn more. If the players were to accept the proposal put forward by the owners originally, bringing the percentage split between players & owners back more in favour of the owners, pretty sure the 18 game schedule is moot & off the table- not on top of the deal.

                        5. One thing the players demand which is VERY acceptable is the NFL's responsibility to put in place a fund for injured & retired players to help with lingering effects of their trade. That is reasonable. But not required. But if the owners are smart, they could put that on the table as part of the peace pipe deal to get the 2 sides closer- and it looks good in the public eye.
                        The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                        Light up the darkness.

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                        • SteelTorch
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 1361

                          #57
                          Re: RIP NFL

                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Originally posted by Blockhead
                          Originally posted by Crash
                          Fans don't want 18 games. They want a break in cost of pre-season tickets.
                          I'm a fan. I'll gladly take two less pre-season games for 2 more regular season games.

                          I couldn't care less about pre-season tickets. The years I bought seasons, I just sold them off for close to face.
                          That's cause you're among the fans who don't give a sh** about the players. You just want your extra two games.


                          Anyway, this is Goodell's legacy. I'm only hoping this will mean a greater chance of him getting fired in the near future.
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                          • Crash
                            Legend
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5008

                            #58
                            Re: RIP NFL

                            Score one for the players.....The NFLs $4 billion war chest just sank.

                            Judge Doty sides with players in “lockout insurance” case
                            Posted by Mike Florio on March 1, 2011, 6:42 PM EST


                            The NFLPA previously had little or no leverage in labor negotiations with the union.

                            Key word: Previously.

                            Brian Murphy of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that Judge David Doty has ruled that the NFL violated the Collective Bargaining Agreement by striking deals with television networks that require ongoing payments to the league during a work stoppage.

                            Judge Doty has ordered another hearing to determine whether the players’ remedy will be financial damages or an injunction preventing the league from pocketing the money during a lockout.

                            The ruling comes the night before a full day of mediation in Washington, D.C., little more than two days before the expiration of the current labor deal. Though the league surely will balk at the ruling and vow to appeal the decision to a higher court, the possible inability of men like Jerry Jones to pay the mortgage on places like the Jerry Dome suddenly makes it much harder for the league to withstand a lockout.

                            And while this will do nothing to soften the league’s insistence that the next labor deal should be Doty-free, we think Doty made the right ruling. Once the league agreed to pay the players 59.6 cents of every dollar made (after $1 billion comes off the top), the league assumed a duty to maximize revenues.

                            At a minimum, the league assumed a duty not to trade the ability to generate more revenue for a contractual term that benefits the owners — and that hurts the players.

                            That said, the impact of the ruling on the talks is unknown. It will be important for the league to make concessions in light of the decision, and for the union not to overreach.

                            Murphy has forwarded a copy of Judge Doty’s 28-page ruling, from which we’ll be lifting any interesting quotes.

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                            • hawaiiansteel
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 35649

                              #59
                              Re: RIP NFL

                              I believe Judge Doty made the right ruling in this particular case, did the owners really think they were going to get away with collecting lockout insurance?

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                              • Crash
                                Legend
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5008

                                #60
                                Re: RIP NFL

                                That $4 billion was the owners trump card and Doty just tore it up.

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