On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

[SteelStallion]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

we have won 2 SB's and lost another by 6 points with 3 TO's and a TD given up by the offense.

Now I'm on the draft CB wagon but I think we are over reacting a bit. Sure it's frustrating to watch Brees, Brady and Rodgers pick us apart but we have 25 other QB's who can't.

Don't be surprised if we go DL the first round.

I think you may be right. They won't risk a first round draft bust. They'll go BPA which is likely a lineman. Unless they like the Texas kid with the size and ball-hawking skills. It's just a frustrating situation. Like I said somewhere else, if they were even average in that secondary they might have one or even two more Lombardi's. They don't want to do free agency but they whiff terribly with their DB draft picks so what are they gonna do?

[grotonsteel]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

we have won 2 SB's and lost another by 6 points with 3 TO's and a TD given up by the offense.

Now I'm on the draft CB wagon but I think we are over reacting a bit. Sure it's frustrating to watch Brees, Brady and Rodgers pick us apart but we have 25 other QB's who can't.

Don't be surprised if we go DL the first round.

I don't know whether they need to draft a CB in Rd 1 but they have to do something about Cb position.

They have failed to develop a CB picked in later rounds except for Ike Taylor.

Ike taylor is 31 and his greatest asset is speed. 2-3 years down the line when he slows down Steelers could be in real trouble.

Steelers defensive players take 2-3 years to start playing so going by that they need to either draft a CB very early in the draft or make a move for a CB in free agency which they currently can't do it because of no CBA.

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

[quote=The Sodfather][quote="NJ-STEELER":mbt2t9vh][quote="The Sodfather":mbt2t9vh]

i wonder how long some of the other teams in the league have that long of a run of not drafting a CB in the first round


i think it shows

The mighty Green Bay Packers, who just beat the Steelers in the SB like they were red headed step kids, have drafted two DBs in the 1st round since 97. Ahmad Carroll (2004) was definitely a corner but I think Antuan Edwards (1999) was moved to safety.[/quote:mbt2t9vh]


they also went out and signed one of the top CBs in the game when he became available[/quote:mbt2t9vh]

That wasn't the question.

Besides the other 2 of the top 3 CBs were far from 1st round picks.[/quote:mbt2t9vh]

why would you need to draft a corner high if you trade for one of the best in the game?


if we went out and signed ASO, i doubt we would need a corner drafted in the 1st day of the draft

[The Sodfather]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

why would you need to draft a corner high if you trade for one of the best in the game?


if we went out and signed ASO, i doubt we would need a corner drafted in the 1st day of the draft

You're not to bright are you?

If we signed ASO but didn't bring Ike back (which would happen because of $$$) you're right back in the same boat. BMAC and Gay as 2 and 3 and people still screaming we need a CB on the first day of the draft.

Which brings me back to the original point, don't make a pick based solely on need.

[The Sodfather]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

we have won 2 SB's and lost another by 6 points with 3 TO's and a TD given up by the offense.

Now I'm on the draft CB wagon but I think we are over reacting a bit. Sure it's frustrating to watch Brees, Brady and Rodgers pick us apart but we have 25 other QB's who can't.

Don't be surprised if we go DL the first round.

Very good

People need to realize it's the NFL in 2010 and that the whole league is geared to lots of scoring and passing. You're not going to "shutdown" the really good QBs for 4 quarters on a consistent basis.

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

why would you need to draft a corner high if you trade for one of the best in the game?


if we went out and signed ASO, i doubt we would need a corner drafted in the 1st day of the draft

You're not to bright are you?

[/quote:10ssm862]

LOL

good job with the bash and then mis spelling a word there, Einstein.


and who said anything about releasing Ike to sign ASO. and even if they did have to let ike go in favor of ASO its STILL an upgrade because its not like Ike doesn't get beat

[The Sodfather]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

Yep

Definitely not bright

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

thx buddy

you're too kind

[The Sodfather]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

I've witnessed your posts on several message over a few years now and you're the last person who should be taking about someone's spelling, grammar or typing.

Of course when you post such stupidity attacking an error in typing is about all you have,


Isn't that right NJGump?

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

normally, i dont go around around correcting spelling/grammatical mistakes. and i certainly have a ton of them myself.

what i dont do is go around bashing people for no reason, as you did in this post

i found it ironic that you didn't know how the use the proper to/too after posting "i wasnt too bright"....so i responded the same way you would.
refresh my memory and show me i insulted you. here or another board. if you want to be a jagoff, you should expect the same back


is this Shultz? are you gonna cry again when i come back at you after insulting me first?
like you did on SN?

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

Back on topic

my position is that the Cb who may be ranked 40th overall on the big board will help us a lot more then a DE rated 31st.
so if we have to "reach" for that player, so be it. Or if there is bigger fall off then that at CB , then a FS/OT/OG/ would be a better value and likely have a more immediate impact

the front seven is the best in the league and i dont see them slacking off much in the next 2 years. hood is only going to get better and aaron can spell both DE spots next year.
personally, i wouldnt even look for a DL until the 3rd rd. the secondary is in dire need of improvement

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

Steelers 1st Round Targets That Could Still Be On The Draft Board At 31


Over the last few weeks a few readers have asked me if I could put together a realistic list of players the Steelers most likely will have a shot at drafting should they stay at the #31 spot where they are currently slated to pick. As the players with first round grades are starting to settle in following their combine performances and the early pro days, it is easier now to get a better picture of the first round. I will do later rounds as we go, but there is so much movement going on still with the mid round guys it would be ludicrous to project past round one for at least a little while longer. It is too easy to list guys here like Mike Pouncey and Nate Solder as it is pretty obvious in my opinion that if either of those two guys were to somehow drop to 31, the Steelers would snap them up. I just can't see those guys falling. What this post is trying to do is provide a realistic narrowing down of players, who at this point of March, look to have a chance at being on the board when the Steelers pick at 31. These players also fit the biggest overall needs the Steelers have as well. These are in no particular order:


T Gabe Carimi (Wisconsin) - Carimi is still passing all the sniff test that he can play left tackle in the NFL. Currently he is my 4th rated tackle and could be selected from pick 20 on. He still has a legitimate chance of sliding to 31 still in my opinion.

HGT WGT ARMS HANDS 40 TIME 10 TIME 225 REPS VERT JUMP 20 S 3 CONE
6070 314 35 10 3/8 5.27 1.82 29 31.5 9'1" DNP DNP


DE Cameron Heyward (Ohio State) - A few days away from his private work-out still, but Heyward could be the best 3-4 five technique defensive end in the draft. If he is not selected by the Chargers at 18, he will likely slip all the way down to the bottom of round 1.

HGT WGT ARMS HANDS 40 TIME 225 REPS VERT JUMP 20 S 60 S 3 CONE
6050* 294 34 1/4 10 1/8 DNP DNP 30.0 DNP DNP DNP DNP


DE Muhammad Wilkerson (Temple) - Another 3-4 five technique defensive end that can move around to either side. The more I see of this kid, the more I like. Had a great combine showing and could be on the board at 31. Motor is in good shape.

HGT WGT ARMS HANDS 40 TIME 225 REPS VERT JUMP 20 S 60 S 3 CONE
6041 315 35 1/4 10 4.96 27 26.0 8'10" 4.59 7.31


CB Brandon Harris (Miami) – Harris is a tad bit undersized, but very talented. Probably projects as a nickel back first before trying to move outside. He was the best looking corner in position drills at the combine. Reportedly not a huge character concern. His stock is climbing and he could have already passed Smith as the 3rd rated corner in the draft.

HGT WGT ARMS HANDS 40 TIME 225 REPS VERT JUMP 20 S 60 S 3 CONE
5094 191 30 5/8 8 1/2 4.53 13 35.5 9'5" 4.12 N/A 6.77


ILB Martez Wilson (Illinois) - I mentioned this guy back on a podcast a while ago and also in my best player available post. Since then, everyone is finally giving him respect as a possibility for the Steelers in round one. James Farrior is another year older and free agent Keyaron Fox likely will not be back. Larry Foote is under contract still, but not irreplaceable either. Wilson has a great tool set and could probably play inside and outside if needed. He also could cut his teeth on special teams in year one.

HGT WGT ARMS HANDS 40 TIME 225 REPS VERT JUMP 20 S 60 S 3 CONE
6036 250 34 5/8 9 3/4 4.49 23 36.0 10'4" 4.28 DNP 7.04


NT Phil Taylor (Baylor) - Taylor will likely be the 1st true nose tackle off the board. The Steelers just nailed down Casey Hampton prior to the 2010 season for a few more years and Chris Hoke is currently an unrestricted free agent. It might be one year too early for the Steelers to draft the heir apparent to Big Snack, but I am not ready to cross him off the list of suspects just because of that.

HGT WGT ARMS HANDS 40 TIME 225 REPS VERT JUMP 20 S 60 S 3 CONE
6032 334 34 10 3/4 5.14 31 29.5 8'4" 4.77 7.75


T Derek Sherrod (Mississippi State) - Easily the 4th or 5th best tackle in the draft. Because of that he should be available late and could even slide to the early part of round 2. I still have Solder and Carimi rated ahead of him and Sherrod would likely be better suited on the right side as well. He had a good Senior Bowl showing.

HGT WGT ARMS HANDS 40 TIME 10 TIME 225 REPS VERT JUMP 20 S 3 CONE
6053 321 35 3/8 11 5.20 23 28.0 8'1" 4.63 7.43


G Danny Watkins (Baylor) - Easily the second best interior lineman on the board, but also easily the oldest guy of the early rounders. Because of his age and the fact he projects as a guard, it would be easy to rule him out as a possibility of being drafted by the Steelers in the 1st round. I am not ready to throw the baby out with the bath water just yet with him, because the talent certainly is there.

HGT WGT ARMS HANDS 40 TIME 10 TIME 225 REPS VERT JUMP 20 S 3 CONE
6033 310 34 1/4 10 1/8 5.40 29 26.0 7'8" 4.62 7.61


CB Jimmy Smith (Colorado) - Physical corner with questions about his character and work ethic. Certainly is talented and fits what the Steelers need. Some reports suggest he did not interview too well at the combine. Certainly has a shot at dropping to 31, but would the Steelers risk it with him? Too early to rule him out just yet as many are trying to do.

HGT WGT ARMS HANDS 40 TIME 225 REPS VERT JUMP 20 S 60 S 3 CONE
6022 211 32 1/4 9 3/4 4.46 24 36.0 10'3" 4.06 6.93


CB/S Aaron Williams (Texas) - Is he a corner or a safety? Not the best of tacklers, but is still raw. Easily the 5th rated corner in the draft if that is what he is deemed. Would probably be a reach for the Steelers in round one, but I am not ready to rule him out as a possibility just yet.

HGT WGT ARMS HANDS 40 TIME 225 REPS VERT JUMP 20 S 60 S 3 CONE
5117 204 31 1/2 9 1/4 4.56 18 37.5 10'7" 4.07 6.72


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[Shawn]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

we have won 2 SB's and lost another by 6 points with 3 TO's and a TD given up by the offense.

Now I'm on the draft CB wagon but I think we are over reacting a bit. Sure it's frustrating to watch Brees, Brady and Rodgers pick us apart but we have 25 other QB's who can't.

Don't be surprised if we go DL the first round.

I wouldn't be shocked in the least if they selected a guy like Heyward.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: On the Steelers: Drafting 31st not a concern

Don't be surprised if we go DL the first round.

I wouldn't be shocked in the least if they selected a guy like Heyward.

from Scott Brown's blog:

View From The Press Box

Quick hits
March 23rd, 2011


NEW ORLEANS – Some thoughts and observations before leaving the Big Easy…

-- Assuming a CBA is reached at some point and there is free agency, look for Ike Taylor to re-sign with the Steelers.

The reason? Simple. The veteran cornerback wants to stay in Pittsburgh and the Steelers want him back.

-- Don’t be surprised if the Steelers go defensive, not offensive, line with their first-round draft pick. The draft is flush with defensive linemen, meaning a very good one could fall to the Steelers at No. 31.

They hit with Ziggy Hood at No. 32 two years ago, and they still need to get younger along their defensive line.

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