My Mock v1.0

[Shawn]

1) Rahim Moore-FS 6 foot 1 196# UCLA, With Jimmy Smith, Pouncey and Carmini gone...I believe the Steelers will select the best FS in the draft. Moore will be a solid to spectacular safety at the next level. There are also some suggestions he can play DB at the next level. He will instantly add coverage skills to our pass defenses. He upgrades our secondary from day 1. If Heyward is still there he would be tough to pass on. When motivated he is one of the most dominating DTs I have had the pleasure of watching play for the Buckeyes. But, with questions about his motivation to play, the impending strike I just don't think the Steelers take the chance.

2) Demarcus Love-OG/T 6 foot 5, 315# Arkansas...with Ballard likely gone by this position and Love falling as late as a third in some mocks I think this is a reasonable position and pick. The Steelers will surely covet a wide bodied SEC Tackle with ability to play both tackles and guard at the next level. His position diversity will be too much for the Steelers to pass on if he is here in round 2.

(and I don't need any comments from the Dubs about "being on board", or any comments about master and student...lol)

3) C. Mathews-ILB 6 foot 1 234# Oregon, smart instinctual, football in his genes. I got to watch him a bit in college and was left impressed. He seemed more like a second round talent to me. But, many are projecting him in the 4th-5th. I think he goes much earlier. I believe he is a perfect fit for the Steelers who love tough and smart football players.

4) Kendrick Ellis-NT Hampton 6 foot 5 340 pounds. Yeah this is a big boy who can really stop the run and plug gaps. Small school will drop a guy who would go 2 rounds earlier had he played in the SEC or Big Ten.

5) C. Chekwa-DB 6 foot 190# OSU, raw but has all the tools, needs good coaching to avoid mental mistakes. He is quick, fast and can recover from mistakes. The only thing that gives me hestitation with this pick is he is not a typical Steeler DB. He must improve on his tacking skills. But, adding this kind of speed and coverage ability this late in the draft would be too much to pass up.

6) D. Sanzenbacher-OSU WR 5 foot 11, 180# I love this guys heart. Very good hands, willing to sacrifice his body, leads by example. He runs very good routes, disciplined WR but lacks elite speed. He is a perfect fit for the Steelers as a replacement for Ward.

[calmkiller]

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7) John Connor-FB Kentucky Here is to me wishing we get a true FB in the draft. I know we don't draft FBs but this guy can block and I would love to see him in the BnG.

um...John Connor was drafted by the Jets last year....

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[Oviedo]

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I doubt Love is on the board at #62.

Matthews is probably no better than a 5th or 6th Round pick. He got the name but not the game!!!!!

As mentiuoned, Connor was drafted last year.

As far as your #1 I would take a CB before a Safety.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

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Since you made you mock a Topic, I guess it is open to discussion. Let me start by saying it isn't an attack on you or anything...I just don't like it.

1. Rahim Moore in the 1st? No thanks. I really don't see any Safety talent in the 1st. After the Senior Bowl, I have Carter graded higher. It might be pick #40 before a S comes off the board. If you want to go secondary, Brandon Harris or Jimmy Smith. Aaron Williams might sneak into the end of the 1st, but I'm not a fan of his. He is a "tweener' CB to me. Meaning he doesn't have elite athletic ability nor is he a physical CB who can run. I like Harris's quickness and fluid hips. Lots of upside and already at a high level. Smith is a "Steelers" type of CB. Big & physical with very good instincts and athleticism. Hits like a S and runs like a CB. Williams is a little stiff in the hips and not very physical for his size. He looks like a very good #3 CB in this league. I wouldn't take him if Harris & Smith are gone.

2. Demarcus Love in the 2nd? He really struggled at the Senior Bowl and I think he is a 3rd round OG...Only. We will see. If Marcus Cannon was there after a 1st round CB, I would take him.

3. Casey Mathews in the 3rd? Is it the love for the name that had you pick him in the 3rd? He isn't anything close to his brother. Probably a 5th round pick. I'm not a fan of an ILB before the 4th. ILB tend to fall after the elite guys come off. You might have some bad 40 times or see them struggle in position drills and guys like Sturdivant, McCarthy, and Sheppard are all still on the board when the 4th round starts.

4. Kendrick Ellis...Now him I like. At least the guy between the lines I like. Not sure he will be around in the 4th. Also not sure the Steelers will have him on their board. Similiar to Marvin Austin. Love to have the "football players"...But not the off field characters.

5. Chimdi Chekwa I would be happy with especially in the 5th. Don't see how he goes any later than the 4th.

6. I'm not sure on Dane Sanzenbacher. Like the effort but not sure he will be able to get seperation at the next level. As a PSU homer, never impressed.

7. As already stated, Connor was in last years draft.

[StarSpangledSteeler]

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It's an interesting draft. I give you credit for originality. At this point, it's looking more and more like Pouncey will be gone by 1.31, but I don't know that all 5 OT's (Solder, Castonzo, Smith, Carimi, Sherrod) will be off the board as well. If not i'd say any one of those provides a better value. If they're all gone I have to think that means, either a nice DL (Nevis, Paea, possibly Heyward) or CB (Smith, Williams) should be there, which i view as bigger areas of need than FS in our particular scheme and roster situation. The question then arises, how much more of a BPA is Moore. I agree he is legit. I don't think he's an Ed Reed type ballhawk but i do think he hits harder and tackles better. I just think he's more of a luxury than a need.

[Chadman]

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7) John Connor-FB Kentucky Here is to me wishing we get a true FB in the draft. I know we don't draft FBs but this guy can block and I would love to see him in the BnG.

um...John Connor was drafted by the Jets last year....

[url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5913/player?r=1"]http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5913/player?r=1[/url]

Yeah, but he sent himself back from the year 2026 to take part in consecutive drafts to see if he might go a little higher second time around with his new cyborg technology...

Don't you know ANYTHING??

[grotonsteel]

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Interesting draft.

I have not seen Rahim play so can't comment on him but i like the Safety position. I am not sure if there is any FS/SS which can be taken in Rd 1. After watching the SB its crystal clear Clark is a liability in coverage. I would like a ball hawk Safety.


I am not in favor of drafting a CB in Rd 1. Its a waste of a pick. He will take 3 years to become a starter and also what is the point of picking a CB in Rd 1 and make him play 10 yards away from WR even on 3rd and 5 courtesy Dick Lebeau scheme.

Demarcus Love..I had him in Rd 1 in my previous draft. I was impressed the way he played against LSU. But he struggled in Senior Bowl. I don't know if he is another Duke Robinson. I think combine might give a better idea about Love.

Casey matthews in 3rd Rd is pretty high i would say.

Kendrick and Chekwa are good players in 4th and 5th Rd though.

Also like the idea of good blocking FB.

[MeetJoeGreene]

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Truly a well-thought out mock draft that merits praise, laud, and consideration.

[Oviedo]

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Interesting draft.

I have not seen Rahim play so can't comment on him but i like the Safety position. I am not sure if there is any FS/SS which can be taken in Rd 1. After watching the SB its crystal clear Clark is a liability in coverage. I would like a ball hawk Safety.


I am not in favor of drafting a CB in Rd 1. Its a waste of a pick. He will take 3 years to become a starter and also what is the point of picking a CB in Rd 1 and make him play 10 yards away from WR even on 3rd and 5 courtesy bad word Lebeau scheme.

Demarcus Love..I had him in Rd 1 in my previous draft. I was impressed the way he played against LSU. But he struggled in Senior Bowl. I don't know if he is another Duke Robinson. I think combine might give a better idea about Love.

Casey matthews in 3rd Rd is pretty high i would say.

Kendrick and Chekwa are good players in 4th and 5th Rd though.

Also like the idea of good blocking FB.

I tend to agree with your assessment of "why bother drafting a DB in Round 1 if LeBeau won't let him play." That's why I'll be adjusting my Mock shortly.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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Interesting draft.

I have not seen Rahim play so can't comment on him but i like the Safety position. I am not sure if there is any FS/SS which can be taken in Rd 1. After watching the SB its crystal clear Clark is a liability in coverage. I would like a ball hawk Safety.


I am not in favor of drafting a CB in Rd 1. Its a waste of a pick. He will take 3 years to become a starter and also what is the point of picking a CB in Rd 1 and make him play 10 yards away from WR even on 3rd and 5 courtesy bad word Lebeau scheme.

Demarcus Love..I had him in Rd 1 in my previous draft. I was impressed the way he played against LSU. But he struggled in Senior Bowl. I don't know if he is another Duke Robinson. I think combine might give a better idea about Love.

Casey matthews in 3rd Rd is pretty high i would say.

Kendrick and Chekwa are good players in 4th and 5th Rd though.

Also like the idea of good blocking FB.

I tend to agree with your assessment of "why bother drafting a DB in Round 1 if LeBeau won't let him play." That's why I'll be adjusting my Mock shortly.

If you keep adhering to this philosophy, then you'll never draft another defensive player again. Don't just think about who will help us most next season. Think about who will have the best long-term career. We had to wait for guys like Troy Polamalu and Lawrence Timmons to make an impact, while Kendall Simmons and Troy Edwards started 20 games between them during their rookie seasons.

[The Sodfather]

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Yeah Dick will never let them play.

[Shawn]

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My bad on the FB. I'll make an adjustment shortly.

[Shawn]

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Since you made you mock a Topic, I guess it is open to discussion. Let me start by saying it isn't an attack on you or anything...I just don't like it.

1. Rahim Moore in the 1st? No thanks. I really don't see any Safety talent in the 1st. After the Senior Bowl, I have Carter graded higher. It might be pick #40 before a S comes off the board. If you want to go secondary, Brandon Harris or Jimmy Smith. Aaron Williams might sneak into the end of the 1st, but I'm not a fan of his. He is a "tweener' CB to me. Meaning he doesn't have elite athletic ability nor is he a physical CB who can run. I like Harris's quickness and fluid hips. Lots of upside and already at a high level. Smith is a "Steelers" type of CB. Big & physical with very good instincts and athleticism. Hits like a S and runs like a CB. Williams is a little stiff in the hips and not very physical for his size. He looks like a very good #3 CB in this league. I wouldn't take him if Harris & Smith are gone.

2. Demarcus Love in the 2nd? He really struggled at the Senior Bowl and I think he is a 3rd round OG...Only. We will see. If Marcus Cannon was there after a 1st round CB, I would take him.

3. Casey Mathews in the 3rd? Is it the love for the name that had you pick him in the 3rd? He isn't anything close to his brother. Probably a 5th round pick. I'm not a fan of an ILB before the 4th. ILB tend to fall after the elite guys come off. You might have some bad 40 times or see them struggle in position drills and guys like Sturdivant, McCarthy, and Sheppard are all still on the board when the 4th round starts.

4. Kendrick Ellis...Now him I like. At least the guy between the lines I like. Not sure he will be around in the 4th. Also not sure the Steelers will have him on their board. Similiar to Marvin Austin. Love to have the "football players"...But not the off field characters.

5. Chimdi Chekwa I would be happy with especially in the 5th. Don't see how he goes any later than the 4th.

6. I'm not sure on Dane Sanzenbacher. Like the effort but not sure he will be able to get seperation at the next level. As a PSU homer, never impressed.

7. As already stated, Connor was in last years draft.

Was I not supposed to make it my mock a post? There might be a new format which I am not aware of.

1) Some of the names you mention in the first will be long gone by 31. Jimmy Smith is projected by many to be top 20. If he does fall to 31, I think he is a no brainer pick. As for Harris, I believe him to be very talented but I think he has had some off the field issues. He is also projected by many to be a top 20 pick. I think Sherrod is a possibility at this point.

2) Love until he met Heyward, (although not lined up against him for much of the game) did get beat once real bad. He also had a poor showing in the Senior Bowl. But, the guy has had what most would consider a first round career in the tough SEC. Maybe he is playing through a minor injury or possibly having a bad say. Certainly his combine will sort some of this out. But, with his position diversity, wide body, strength, and being a solid SEC Tackle/Guard I think late round 2 is very reasonable.

3) I might be in the minority but I really like Mathews. I haven't gotten to see him as much as Oregon fans but from what I did see I was left very impressed. I have also seen some scouting reports on him that were very positive. Maybe 3rd is bit of a stretch considering he might fall to the 4th or 5th but I think it's very possible that he goes much earlier. 3/31 is almost a 4th round pick and honestly I don't think he falls out of the 4th. Could be wrong.

6) I would have the same reservation about Sanzenbacher as yourself. I wonder about seperation. But, he is tough and physical for his size. I believe his solid route running will find him seperation. And let me say, he is far from slow. I would guess him in the low 4.5's or high 4.4's.

[Dee Dub]

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My bad on the FB. I'll make an adjustment shortly.

Dont listen to these guys about Rahim Moore. That is a solid pick.

[Oviedo]

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Since you made you mock a Topic, I guess it is open to discussion. Let me start by saying it isn't an attack on you or anything...I just don't like it.

1. Rahim Moore in the 1st? No thanks. I really don't see any Safety talent in the 1st. After the Senior Bowl, I have Carter graded higher. It might be pick #40 before a S comes off the board. If you want to go secondary, Brandon Harris or Jimmy Smith. Aaron Williams might sneak into the end of the 1st, but I'm not a fan of his. He is a "tweener' CB to me. Meaning he doesn't have elite athletic ability nor is he a physical CB who can run. I like Harris's quickness and fluid hips. Lots of upside and already at a high level. Smith is a "Steelers" type of CB. Big & physical with very good instincts and athleticism. Hits like a S and runs like a CB. Williams is a little stiff in the hips and not very physical for his size. He looks like a very good #3 CB in this league. I wouldn't take him if Harris & Smith are gone.

2. Demarcus Love in the 2nd? He really struggled at the Senior Bowl and I think he is a 3rd round OG...Only. We will see. If Marcus Cannon was there after a 1st round CB, I would take him.

3. Casey Mathews in the 3rd? Is it the love for the name that had you pick him in the 3rd? He isn't anything close to his brother. Probably a 5th round pick. I'm not a fan of an ILB before the 4th. ILB tend to fall after the elite guys come off. You might have some bad 40 times or see them struggle in position drills and guys like Sturdivant, McCarthy, and Sheppard are all still on the board when the 4th round starts.

4. Kendrick Ellis...Now him I like. At least the guy between the lines I like. Not sure he will be around in the 4th. Also not sure the Steelers will have him on their board. Similiar to Marvin Austin. Love to have the "football players"...But not the off field characters.

5. Chimdi Chekwa I would be happy with especially in the 5th. Don't see how he goes any later than the 4th.

6. I'm not sure on Dane Sanzenbacher. Like the effort but not sure he will be able to get seperation at the next level. As a PSU homer, never impressed.

7. As already stated, Connor was in last years draft.

Was I not supposed to make it my mock a post? There might be a new format which I am not aware of.

1) Some of the names you mention in the first will be long gone by 31. Jimmy Smith is projected by many to be top 20. If he does fall to 31, I think he is a no brainer pick. As for Harris, I believe him to be very talented but I think he has had some off the field issues. He is also projected by many to be a top 20 pick. I think Sherrod is a possibility at this point.

2) Love until he met Heyward, (although not lined up against him for much of the game) did get beat once real bad. He also had a poor showing in the Senior Bowl. But, the guy has had what most would consider a first round career in the tough SEC. Maybe he is playing through a minor injury or possibly having a bad say. Certainly his combine will sort some of this out. But, with his position diversity, wide body, strength, and being a solid SEC Tackle/Guard I think late round 2 is very reasonable.

3) I might be in the minority but I really like Mathews. I haven't gotten to see him as much as Oregon fans but from what I did see I was left very impressed. I have also seen some scouting reports on him that were very positive. Maybe 3rd is bit of a stretch considering he might fall to the 4th or 5th but I think it's very possible that he goes much earlier. 3/31 is almost a 4th round pick and honestly I don't think he falls out of the 4th. Could be wrong.

6) I would have the same reservation about Sanzenbacher as yourself. I wonder about seperation. But, he is tough and physical for his size. I believe his solid route running will find him seperation. And let me say, he is far from slow. I would guess him in the low 4.5's or high 4.4's.

Reference Sanzenbacher, we have a glut of "slot type" WRs now in Ward, Sanders, ARE and Brown. We don't need another. We need another outside guy with some size who can help draw some of the over the top coverage away from Wallace.