Redman's Contributions in Post Season Shouldn't Go Unnoticed

[phillyesq]

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There is another story. Mewelde is Tomlin's boy. That's why he was signed and thats why he plays.

But now he's a free agent. I don't expect him back.

So Mendy has to be a three down player and Redman has to be the backup unless they sign or draft another RB.

Yup, he was in MN when Tomlin was there.

Mewelde is versatile, but at this stage, he does nothing particularly well. At times, he still runs more effectively than I would expect, but that is about the best I can say about him. I know that Tomlin loves veterans he feels are "safe," as evidenced by guys like Moore and ARE returning punts the past few years. I think now that the Steelers would be best served by moving in a different direction.

I appreciate his contributions -- in 2008, he did a nice job as an injury replacement. However, I'd like to see him replaced in the third down role by somebody who is more of a threat.

[NorthCoast]

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Perhaps another reason Mendenhall receives the majority of carries is the perception that he can/will take it to the house on any given play. I don't think anyone expects the same from Redman. kinda like Barry Sanders; will you accept a string of carries for minimal gain for the chance that the next carry goes all the way? Mendenhall certainly improved as the season ended but it has been some time since he has had a break-away that change a game.

Redman deserves more carries, but the coaches seem hesitant.

[The Sodfather]

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Redmen took some of Moore's 3rd down duties as the season progressed too.

I'd say the handwriting is on the wall for Mr. Moore.

[frankthetank1]

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Redmen took some of Moore's 3rd down duties as the season progressed too.

I'd say the handwriting is on the wall for Mr. Moore.

i think you are right. redman can be every bit of the rb moore is. i hope dwyer progresses. we should be fine next season with mendy, redman and dwyer

[snarky]

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I would say that simply because a guy did well this year, it doesn't necessarily mean he was underutilized over the previous seasons. He may have simply not been ready. We won't ever know.

As for Moore, he's been serviceable and has contributed some plays but I agree that we should move on. Not sure about Redman's hands (though his TD against Baltimore was beast mode) -- but Moore started to look weak this year.

And I'm not quite sure I understand this business about Moore playing simply because he is Tomlin's boy. Case in point, I seem to remember a game against Baltimore where Moore was our only back and he made some huge plays. He's no world beater but the guy contributed and earned his roster spot. In a pinch I would still have him back, but no doubt we are in a position to upgrade.

[Oviedo]

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We need Dwyer to establish himself as the #2. It will prolong Mendenhall's career.

[Shoe]

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You guys are idiots... the coaches aren't ignoring him. The fact that they give him the goalline carries speaks a lot to how they feel about him as a football player. Fumblehall is a 225 lb back that could handle the role just fine... they just choose to utilize Redman, which tells you that they like him a lot and want to utilize him.

It's frankly hard to find opportunities for him with a young guy like Fumblehall in front of him. Redman is still finding his way as an NFL player too. His rookie year, he was unable to translate his preseason success into a roster spot--prolly cuz he couldn't do anything but run the ball. This year, he probably had to show the coaches he had gotten smarter/better in catching the ball, blitz pickup, and the like.

I want the guy to stay. There's nothing like another homegrown, late round/FA type guy that you can be proud of. And of course, everyone knows you need TWO guys at RB in case the first guy (Fumblehall) gets hurt. But he has to establish that, whether it be as the Mewelde Moore, 3rd down back. (In which case, blitz pickup/catching the ball.) OR--become more of the FB type.

[feltdizz]

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You guys are idiots... the coaches aren't ignoring him. The fact that they give him the goalline carries speaks a lot to how they feel about him as a football player. Fumblehall is a 225 lb back that could handle the role just fine... they just choose to utilize Redman, which tells you that they like him a lot and want to utilize him.

It's frankly hard to find opportunities for him with a young guy like Fumblehall in front of him. Redman is still finding his way as an NFL player too. His rookie year, he was unable to translate his preseason success into a roster spot--prolly cuz he couldn't do anything but run the ball. This year, he probably had to show the coaches he had gotten smarter/better in catching the ball, blitz pickup, and the like.

I want the guy to stay. There's nothing like another homegrown, late round/FA type guy that you can be proud of. And of course, everyone knows you need TWO guys at RB in case the first guy (Fumblehall) gets hurt. But he has to establish that, whether it be as the Mewelde Moore, 3rd down back. (In which case, blitz pickup/catching the ball.) OR--become more of the FB type.

This year Redman made so many plays it wasn't even funny.... it made no sense to give him 2 touches a game and the occasional 3rd and 1.

The Baltimore game did it for me. I seriously doubt Moore gets in at the GL. That was a play he wasn't even supposed to be in on.

The coaches are being a little too patient with Redman.

[SteelCrazy]

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You guys are idiots... the coaches aren't ignoring him. The fact that they give him the goalline carries speaks a lot to how they feel about him as a football player. Fumblehall is a 225 lb back that could handle the role just fine... they just choose to utilize Redman, which tells you that they like him a lot and want to utilize him.

It's frankly hard to find opportunities for him with a young guy like Fumblehall in front of him. Redman is still finding his way as an NFL player too. His rookie year, he was unable to translate his preseason success into a roster spot--prolly cuz he couldn't do anything but run the ball. This year, he probably had to show the coaches he had gotten smarter/better in catching the ball, blitz pickup, and the like.

I want the guy to stay. There's nothing like another homegrown, late round/FA type guy that you can be proud of. And of course, everyone knows you need TWO guys at RB in case the first guy (Fumblehall) gets hurt. But he has to establish that, whether it be as the Mewelde Moore, 3rd down back. (In which case, blitz pickup/catching the ball.) OR--become more of the FB type.

I wouldnt call anyone on here an idiot (mostly beause I'd be calling myself one) but the guy is right that it showed a lot of trust from the coaches for Redman to get those carries he got.

[feltdizz]

Re: Redman's Contributions in Post Season Shouldn't Go Unnoticed

You guys are idiots... the coaches aren't ignoring him. The fact that they give him the goalline carries speaks a lot to how they feel about him as a football player. Fumblehall is a 225 lb back that could handle the role just fine... they just choose to utilize Redman, which tells you that they like him a lot and want to utilize him.

It's frankly hard to find opportunities for him with a young guy like Fumblehall in front of him. Redman is still finding his way as an NFL player too. His rookie year, he was unable to translate his preseason success into a roster spot--prolly cuz he couldn't do anything but run the ball. This year, he probably had to show the coaches he had gotten smarter/better in catching the ball, blitz pickup, and the like.

I want the guy to stay. There's nothing like another homegrown, late round/FA type guy that you can be proud of. And of course, everyone knows you need TWO guys at RB in case the first guy (Fumblehall) gets hurt. But he has to establish that, whether it be as the Mewelde Moore, 3rd down back. (In which case, blitz pickup/catching the ball.) OR--become more of the FB type.

I wouldnt call anyone on here an idiot (mostly beause I'd be calling myself one) but the guy is right that it showed a lot of trust from the coaches for Redman to get those carries he got.

It's football... give the next guy with the best chance of getting yards the ball and keep it moving.

It's not that serious. Some people act like Redman had 2 left feet and one eye... the guy has shown the ability to get tough yards and break tackles that Mendenhall tries to run around. I'm not knocking Mendenhall but there are more than enough touches to go around in a 16 game season.

Redman needs more

[SteelCrazy]

Re: Redman's Contributions in Post Season Shouldn't Go Unnoticed

You guys are idiots... the coaches aren't ignoring him. The fact that they give him the goalline carries speaks a lot to how they feel about him as a football player. Fumblehall is a 225 lb back that could handle the role just fine... they just choose to utilize Redman, which tells you that they like him a lot and want to utilize him.

It's frankly hard to find opportunities for him with a young guy like Fumblehall in front of him. Redman is still finding his way as an NFL player too. His rookie year, he was unable to translate his preseason success into a roster spot--prolly cuz he couldn't do anything but run the ball. This year, he probably had to show the coaches he had gotten smarter/better in catching the ball, blitz pickup, and the like.

I want the guy to stay. There's nothing like another homegrown, late round/FA type guy that you can be proud of. And of course, everyone knows you need TWO guys at RB in case the first guy (Fumblehall) gets hurt. But he has to establish that, whether it be as the Mewelde Moore, 3rd down back. (In which case, blitz pickup/catching the ball.) OR--become more of the FB type.

I wouldnt call anyone on here an idiot (mostly beause I'd be calling myself one) but the guy is right that it showed a lot of trust from the coaches for Redman to get those carries he got.

It's football... give the next guy with the best chance of getting yards the ball and keep it moving.

It's not that serious. Some people act like Redman had 2 left feet and one eye... the guy has shown the ability to get tough yards and break tackles that Mendenhall tries to run around. I'm not knocking Mendenhall but there are more than enough touches to go around in a 16 game season.

Redman needs more

Im all for getting Redman more carries but there are only so many to go around, esp. with Arians air attack but really will Moore be gone? Does Mendy, Redman and Dwyer hold enough experience in Tomlins eyes to getrid of a vet?

[Chavezz]

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There is another story. Mewelde is Tomlin's boy. That's why he was signed and thats why he plays.

But now he's a free agent. I don't expect him back.

So Mendy has to be a three down player and Redman has to be the backup unless they sign or draft another RB.

Something else to remember is that at one point in training camp Redman's rookie year he made a comment to a reporter about it being "Camp Cupcake". Tomlin was told about and made an irritated comment (I wish I could find the story). The next preseason game redman had a few carries back to back and then had a longer one. He tried to come off the field after the play but Tomlin waived him back on and ran him a couple more times.

When Redman came off the field Tomlin got up in his facemask and had a few choice words.


I HOPE that this isn't still the reason that's limiting his opportunities. Tomlin doesn't strike me as a "once in my doghouse, always in my doghouse" kinda guy.

[Snatch98]

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Redman is severely underutilized. He should have 10 touches a game.

I don't understand how a guy comes in and gets 7 to 10 yards a pop when it isn't short yardage and then never touches it again.

*I know it isn't 7 to 10 yards but it sure seems like every time Redman gets a touch when it isn't 3rd and 1 he gets a good 4 to 5 yards or gets to the second level.

Yea, I know and that is very hard to go unnoticed. I was thinking the same thing about him needing more touches and have said so before the playoffs began.

Is he as productive over the course of those 10 touches? He comes in and does what he's asked to do and does a great job. Give Redman 20 touches and Mendenhall 20 touches and I'd wager Mendenhall does more with the opportunities provided. Redman is certianly solid but I doubt he's as productive if given more carries.

[feltdizz]

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Redman is severely underutilized. He should have 10 touches a game.

I don't understand how a guy comes in and gets 7 to 10 yards a pop when it isn't short yardage and then never touches it again.

*I know it isn't 7 to 10 yards but it sure seems like every time Redman gets a touch when it isn't 3rd and 1 he gets a good 4 to 5 yards or gets to the second level.

Yea, I know and that is very hard to go unnoticed. I was thinking the same thing about him needing more touches and have said so before the playoffs began.

Is he as productive over the course of those 10 touches? He comes in and does what he's asked to do and does a great job. Give Redman 20 touches and Mendenhall 20 touches and I'd wager Mendenhall does more with the opportunities provided. Redman is certianly solid but I doubt he's as productive if given more carries.

I'm not so sure of that... Mendenhall has the homerun ability but Redman gets the hard 4 damn near everytime he touches the ball. Do you really think Redman's production would drop off significantly if given more opportunities? I doubt it.

I don't want Redman to get 20 touches... 10 a game would be nice.

Redman had 59 touches for 297, 5 ypc... and people knew he was running on 75% of those carries.

Those numbers are ridiculous. Those numbers should double or triple next year. I know his average will dip a bit but the guy makes plays and doesn't bulls##t in the hole.

[Stewie]

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Redman is severely underutilized. He should have 10 touches a game.

I don't understand how a guy comes in and gets 7 to 10 yards a pop when it isn't short yardage and then never touches it again.

*I know it isn't 7 to 10 yards but it sure seems like every time Redman gets a touch when it isn't 3rd and 1 he gets a good 4 to 5 yards or gets to the second level.

Yea, I know and that is very hard to go unnoticed. I was thinking the same thing about him needing more touches and have said so before the playoffs began.

Is he as productive over the course of those 10 touches? He comes in and does what he's asked to do and does a great job. Give Redman 20 touches and Mendenhall 20 touches and I'd wager Mendenhall does more with the opportunities provided. Redman is certianly solid but I doubt he's as productive if given more carries.

I'm not so sure of that... Mendenhall has the homerun ability but Redman gets the hard 4 damn near everytime he touches the ball. Do you really think Redman's production would drop off significantly if given more opportunities? I doubt it.

I don't want Redman to get 20 touches... 10 a game would be nice.

Redman had 59 touches for 297, 5 ypc... and people knew he was running on 75% of those carries.

Those numbers are ridiculous. Those numbers should double or triple next year. I know his average will dip a bit but the guy makes plays and doesn't bulls##t in the hole.

I agree 10-15 and no bs in the hole, but I would like to see Redman get touches on 1st down, when the universe doesn't know he's going to get the ball.