Big Ben and the glove?

[Iron Shiek]

Mike Lombardi brought up an interesting point on Bill Simmons' podcast. He seemed to think that when Ben wears the glove on his throwing hand in cold weather, the ball came off his hand smoother and whatnot. I don't even notice half the time if he's wearing it or not. I wonder if its a valid observation that he has better games with glove or not.

Obviously this is such a miniscule thing, but a worthy observation nonetheless.

He opined that Ben should look into going the Kurt Warner route and wear it all the time.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

Ben threw the ball crappy against the Jets with the glove.

[Crash]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

JHFC. He wore the glove indoors at XL and struggled.

Amazing how Ben can't have ANY rough stretches of play because the shrinks will over analyze him.

[Iron Shiek]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

That was my thinking. I'm sure he's had good games with and without, and bad games with and without. I'd love for once for these guys that make these random statements to come with some facts/numbers instead of making huge assumptions.

That's why I like Pat Kirwan of all the talking heads. He pretty much brings supporting evidence to his main arguments and understands the game well.

I figured I'd rile up Crash with this post...sorry man!

[steelblood]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

JHFC. He wore the glove indoors at XL and struggled.

Amazing how Ben can't have ANY rough stretches of play because the shrinks will over analyze him.

To be fair, any poor play in the Super Bowl is obviously up for intense scrutiny. That goes with the territory.

[Crash]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

These morons don't watch Ben except for playoff games. The national guys are too busy watching the Manning's, Rivers, Brees, and Brady every week.

Just like when Dilfer said this year, "I watched 20 games of his over two days" and realized how good he is.

Really Trent? 20 games? I haven't missed 20 SNAPS in seven years.

[PSU_dropout43]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

Ben had footing issues.

Poor footwork -> terrible mechanics -> inaccurate throws.

[birtikidis]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

I think after ben slipped and tweaked his knee was when he started throwing poorly. hard to throw when you're nervous and or hurting because of a knee.

[Crash]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

Again, he threw fine when the TEs were not on the field at the end of the half or the TD drive to Wallace.

14 plays, 143 yards, two TD drives.

No two TE's on 11 of the 14 plays.

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

JHFC. He wore the glove indoors at XL and struggled.

Amazing how Ben can't have ANY rough stretches of play because the shrinks will over analyze him.

To be fair, any poor play in the Super Bowl is obviously up for intense scrutiny. That goes with the territory.

If that were the case, then they would be critical of Elway's first winning SB, Mannings PO run and SB win, Warners SB against us (he did crap for 2.5 quarters), Brady's first SB win, and there are more.

Face it, Ben is held to a different standard. The rules change when it comes to him.

[feltdizz]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

JHFC. He wore the glove indoors at XL and struggled.

Amazing how Ben can't have ANY rough stretches of play because the shrinks will over analyze him.

To be fair, any poor play in the Super Bowl is obviously up for intense scrutiny. That goes with the territory.

If that were the case, then they would be critical of Elway's first winning SB, Mannings PO run and SB win, Warners SB against us (he did crap for 2.5 quarters), Brady's first SB win, and there are more.

Face it, Ben is held to a different standard. The rules change when it comes to him.

Ben IS held to a different standard because the Steelers are held in a higher regard. We went to 5 or 6 AFCCG's with average QB's... we already had 4 SB's and another SB appearance.

Most of the QB's listed were the first to take their teams to the SB.... except for Brady and we all know how much success the Pats have had over the last 25 years.

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

JHFC. He wore the glove indoors at XL and struggled.

Amazing how Ben can't have ANY rough stretches of play because the shrinks will over analyze him.

To be fair, any poor play in the Super Bowl is obviously up for intense scrutiny. That goes with the territory.

If that were the case, then they would be critical of Elway's first winning SB, Mannings PO run and SB win, Warners SB against us (he did crap for 2.5 quarters), Brady's first SB win, and there are more.

Face it, Ben is held to a different standard. The rules change when it comes to him.

Ben IS held to a different standard because the Steelers are held in a higher regard. We went to 5 or 6 AFCCG's with average QB's... we already had 4 SB's and another SB appearance.

Most of the QB's listed were the first to take their teams to the SB.... except for Brady and we all know how much success the Pats have had over the last 25 years.

Elway and Warner had both been there before and Manning is supposed to be the second coming.

No excuses. Hold them all to the same level as Ben. And they would all fail in that regard.

[skyhawk]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

JHFC. He wore the glove indoors at XL and struggled.

Amazing how Ben can't have ANY rough stretches of play because the shrinks will over analyze him.

To be fair, any poor play in the Super Bowl is obviously up for intense scrutiny. That goes with the territory.

If that were the case, then they would be critical of Elway's first winning SB, Mannings PO run and SB win, Warners SB against us (he did crap for 2.5 quarters), Brady's first SB win, and there are more.

Face it, Ben is held to a different standard. The rules change when it comes to him.

Ben IS held to a different standard because the Steelers are held in a higher regard. We went to 5 or 6 AFCCG's with average QB's... we already had 4 SB's and another SB appearance.

Most of the QB's listed were the first to take their teams to the SB.... except for Brady and we all know how much success the Pats have had over the last 25 years.

This.

It's GOT to be the reason.

[Crash]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

People were making a case last season of Peyton being the best QB.....EVER.

But yet, his 2006 playoff run is never mentioned while Ben gets his balls cut off because of SB XL and they ignore at Cincy, Indy, and Denver.

[DkBlue]

Re: Big Ben and the glove?

People were making a case last season of Peyton being the best QB.....EVER.

But yet, his 2006 playoff run is never mentioned while Ben gets his balls cut off because of SB XL and they ignore at Cincy, Indy, and Denver.

if he had thrown an int like Manning to end the game he would have been crucified.