Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

[Irongut]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

I sure hope there wasn't anything really worthwhile buried in this thread, because after I saw it was another Crash-43 mutual master baiting society meeting, I skipped through 5 pages.

What a waste of time and effort. If I were looking to join a Steeler board about now, this thread would do a lot to scare me off.

Way to look like an uninformed idiot! Nice job kid!

[SteelCrazy]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

Everyone makes mistakes. He paid for them not because he was guilty, but because he's a white franchise QB with two rings.

You speak as if you were there. I like to believe Ben was innocent, but I really dont know. He didn't let his name get tarnished, the way it has been, because he done nothing wrong. If he did let his name get tarnished for no reason, that would make him weak and I know that isnt true. He did something inappropriate (whether it was just hide the tip or sucking on her feet) or he would have stood up for himself other than stating he wouldnt hurt women like that.

[Crash]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

I didn't say he was guilty of a crime. If anything he's guilty of bad judgement.

He had no choice but to sit there and take it. He fights it and Goodell leaves it at 6 games.

He did something inappropriate (whether it was just hide the tip or sucking on her feet) or he would have stood up for himself other than stating he wouldnt hurt women like that.

He was in court? When? You don't fight accusations when you aren't on trial.

You hope common sense takes over rather than have a power hungry assclown like Roger Goodell playing judge, jury, and executioner.

The minute DA Bright stated this:

"I live in the world of 'beyond a reasonable doubt.' An honest answer: It's debatable. If you want my candid feeling, looking at all the evidence here, we don't even have probable cause. Probable cause is the standard to make an arrest, and we did not have probable cause. No arrest was made in this case, so there's no warrant to dismiss. We didn't even have probable cause in this case."

And then this:

It’s closed. I’ve made my decision and that’s final. It’s not going to change. I’ll tell you this: We’re still waiting on some phone records, text messages. There’s nothing going to be enlightening there. I’ve got enough information. This decision was not difficult to reach. I knew pretty early on that this was the way this case was going, but I pride myself on keeping an open mind.

That shpuld have been it with no suspension. Bright's last comment is all one needs to hear. He basically admitted her story was BS.

[Steelgal]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

I sure hope there wasn't anything really worthwhile buried in this thread, because after I saw it was another Crash-43 mutual master baiting society meeting, I skipped through 5 pages.

What a waste of time and effort. If I were looking to join a Steeler board about now, this thread would do a lot to scare me off.

Way to look like an uninformed idiot! Nice job kid!

Why, he's speaking the truth. Neither one of you are gonna change your minds or each others so why keep on trying? Can't you just agree to disagree on Ben? Of course not because that would be the grownup thing to do....

[proudpittsburgher]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

I sure hope there wasn't anything really worthwhile buried in this thread, because after I saw it was another Crash-43 mutual master baiting society meeting, I skipped through 5 pages.

What a waste of time and effort. If I were looking to join a Steeler board about now, this thread would do a lot to scare me off.

Way to look like an uninformed idiot! Nice job kid!

Why, he's speaking the truth. Neither one of you are gonna change your minds or each others so why keep on trying? Can't you just agree to disagree on Ben? Of course not because that would be the grownup thing to do....

What made this place the place to be for good, civil Steelers discussion where people could, *gasp* understand that all we really have is opinions and it is OK to agree to disagree, is headed down a slippery slope.

And this crap is happening not on a down season, but in a season where we have a legitamate shot at Lombardi No. 7 right in fricken front of us.

[Irongut]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

I sure hope there wasn't anything really worthwhile buried in this thread, because after I saw it was another Crash-43 mutual master baiting society meeting, I skipped through 5 pages.

What a waste of time and effort. If I were looking to join a Steeler board about now, this thread would do a lot to scare me off.

Way to look like an uninformed idiot! Nice job kid!

Why, he's speaking the truth. Neither one of you are gonna change your minds or each others so why keep on trying? Can't you just agree to disagree on Ben? Of course not because that would be the grownup thing to do....

No, he came here and tried to start crap and was misinformed. There were several parties involved in this thread the thread about the Steelers. Try reading it. SAS has been doing this crap for weeks now. Why he feels the need to come in and comment about it is his issue, not mine. Nobody forces him to come in here and read the thread. Feel free to bypass it and not post, you included. But if it makes him/her feel better to post some cries, so be it.

[Oviedo]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

I didn't say he was guilty of a crime. If anything he's guilty of bad judgement.

He had no choice but to sit there and take it. He fights it and Goodell leaves it at 6 games.

He did something inappropriate (whether it was just hide the tip or sucking on her feet) or he would have stood up for himself other than stating he wouldnt hurt women like that.

He was in court? When? You don't fight accusations when you aren't on trial.

You hope common sense takes over rather than have a power hungry assclown like Roger Goodell playing judge, jury, and executioner.

The minute DA Bright stated this:

"I live in the world of 'beyond a reasonable doubt.' An honest answer: It's debatable. If you want my candid feeling, looking at all the evidence here, we don't even have probable cause. Probable cause is the standard to make an arrest, and we did not have probable cause. No arrest was made in this case, so there's no warrant to dismiss. We didn't even have probable cause in this case."

And then this:

It’s closed. I’ve made my decision and that’s final. It’s not going to change. I’ll tell you this: We’re still waiting on some phone records, text messages. There’s nothing going to be enlightening there. I’ve got enough information. This decision was not difficult to reach. I knew pretty early on that this was the way this case was going, but I pride myself on keeping an open mind.

That shpuld have been it with no suspension. Bright's last comment is all one needs to hear. He basically admitted her story was BS.

If you remember it was mentioned early on that the stories of the sorority slut and her slutettes were obviously rehearsed and they went over what to say back at the slut house. It takes a professional investigator about a millisecond to know when there is collusion in accounts when they are interviewing witnesses.

Bright's staged animosity toward Ben was because he was up for reelection in a town where the University is the largest employer so he needed to show he was on the sides of the locals against this "rich outsider"

[grotonsteel]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

I didn't say he was guilty of a crime. If anything he's guilty of bad judgement.

He had no choice but to sit there and take it. He fights it and Goodell leaves it at 6 games.

He did something inappropriate (whether it was just hide the tip or sucking on her feet) or he would have stood up for himself other than stating he wouldnt hurt women like that.

He was in court? When? You don't fight accusations when you aren't on trial.

You hope common sense takes over rather than have a power hungry assclown like Roger Goodell playing judge, jury, and executioner.

The minute DA Bright stated this:

"I live in the world of 'beyond a reasonable doubt.' An honest answer: It's debatable. If you want my candid feeling, looking at all the evidence here, we don't even have probable cause. Probable cause is the standard to make an arrest, and we did not have probable cause. No arrest was made in this case, so there's no warrant to dismiss. We didn't even have probable cause in this case."

And then this:

It’s closed. I’ve made my decision and that’s final. It’s not going to change. I’ll tell you this: We’re still waiting on some phone records, text messages. There’s nothing going to be enlightening there. I’ve got enough information. This decision was not difficult to reach. I knew pretty early on that this was the way this case was going, but I pride myself on keeping an open mind.

That shpuld have been it with no suspension. Bright's last comment is all one needs to hear. He basically admitted her story was BS.

If you remember it was mentioned early on that the stories of the sorority slut and her slutettes were obviously rehearsed and they went over what to say back at the slut house. It takes a professional investigator about a millisecond to know when there is collusion in accounts when they are interviewing witnesses.

Bright's staged animosity toward Ben was because he was up for reelection in a town where the University is the largest employer so he needed to show he was on the sides of the locals against this "rich outsider"

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[Crash]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

Bright's staged animosity toward Ben was because he was up for reelection in a town where the University is the largest employer so he needed to show he was on the sides of the locals against this "rich outsider"

ESPN's Lester Munson said it the night before Bright spoke and it leaked no charges would be filed: "You don't hold press conferences to not announce charges unless you are doing some politicking".

And that's exactly what Bright did.

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

I didn't say he was guilty of a crime. If anything he's guilty of bad judgement.

He had no choice but to sit there and take it. He fights it and Goodell leaves it at 6 games.

He did something inappropriate (whether it was just hide the tip or sucking on her feet) or he would have stood up for himself other than stating he wouldnt hurt women like that.

He was in court? When? You don't fight accusations when you aren't on trial.

You hope common sense takes over rather than have a power hungry assclown like Roger Goodell playing judge, jury, and executioner.

The minute DA Bright stated this:

"I live in the world of 'beyond a reasonable doubt.' An honest answer: It's debatable. If you want my candid feeling, looking at all the evidence here, we don't even have probable cause. Probable cause is the standard to make an arrest, and we did not have probable cause. No arrest was made in this case, so there's no warrant to dismiss. We didn't even have probable cause in this case."

And then this:

It’s closed. I’ve made my decision and that’s final. It’s not going to change. I’ll tell you this: We’re still waiting on some phone records, text messages. There’s nothing going to be enlightening there. I’ve got enough information. This decision was not difficult to reach. I knew pretty early on that this was the way this case was going, but I pride myself on keeping an open mind.

That shpuld have been it with no suspension. Bright's last comment is all one needs to hear. He basically admitted her story was BS.

If you remember it was mentioned early on that the stories of the sorority slut and her slutettes were obviously rehearsed and they went over what to say back at the slut house. It takes a professional investigator about a millisecond to know when there is collusion in accounts when they are interviewing witnesses.

Bright's staged animosity toward Ben was because he was up for reelection in a town where the University is the largest employer so he needed to show he was on the sides of the locals against this "rich outsider"

Yep.

[MaxAMillion]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

Everyone makes mistakes. He paid for them not because he was guilty, but because he's a white franchise QB with two rings.

White people need their own Jesse Jackson. You can't punish black people in this country or they cry, kick, and scream racism.

Heck, we even have to make up rules to interview them, hiring quotas, etc. even if they aren't qualified. Take a civil service test, check the "I'm a black man" box and you instantly gain 10pts, not that black people strive to be civil servants. It's easier to sit back, complain and get government checks while dealing crack and knocking up baby mommas.

This might be the smartest thing you have ever said. What a country! Perhaps Obama the idiot can dish out more handouts so they can be misused by the rich and never reach the people that are actually in need. The middle class is disappearing. You either stop on or over the bottom feeders or become one.

Hey, have you heard? The economy has turned the corner.

Why do you follow football? It is a majority black sport. It would seem to be frustrating watching it knowing all the "breaks" that black people get and all the crack they deal. Following the Penguins would appear to be a lot easier. Certainly the game is a lot more pure.

[Irongut]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

Why do you follow football? It is a majority black sport. It would seem to be frustrating watching it knowing all the "breaks" that black people get and all the crack they deal. Following the Penguins would appear to be a lot easier. Certainly the game is a lot more pure.

Why do you worry about what sport I choose to follow?

You are right, the sport is majority black, along with prison populations. And you thought blacks were the minority.

The "special" rules we create in this country for black people are ridiculous and Crash is absolutely right, if Ben is black, no suspension happens or Jesse Jackson would be at the league office doors with his band of morons chanting "racism" the very next day.

Racism agains whites doesn't exist. We even created a word for it, reverse racism, because it isn't considered racism.

I can't understand why blacks are so afraid of equality.

[feltdizz]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

Everyone makes mistakes. He paid for them not because he was guilty, but because he's a white franchise QB with two rings.

White people need their own Jesse Jackson. You can't punish black people in this country or they cry, kick, and scream racism.

Heck, we even have to make up rules to interview them, hiring quotas, etc. even if they aren't qualified. Take a civil service test, check the "I'm a black man" box and you instantly gain 10pts, not that black people strive to be civil servants. It's easier to sit back, complain and get government checks while dealing crack and knocking up baby mommas.

This might be the smartest thing you have ever said. What a country! Perhaps Obama the idiot can dish out more handouts so they can be misused by the rich and never reach the people that are actually in need. The middle class is disappearing. You either stop on or over the bottom feeders or become one.

Hey, have you heard? The economy has turned the corner.

Why do you follow football? It is a majority black sport. It would seem to be frustrating watching it knowing all the "breaks" that black people get and all the crack they deal. Following the Penguins would appear to be a lot easier. Certainly the game is a lot more pure.

the ice is white too and they slap a black puck. What's not to love?

[Irongut]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

the ice is white too and they slap a black puck. What's not to love?

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

I bet he wasn't holding them against their free will either. And I don't defend Sanchez, but you just show how you will condemn Sanchez without knowing the facts

FACT #1. Sanchez was charged.

FACT #2. Ben was not charged and the DA publicly stated that he didn't even have probable cause to arrest him.

I'm all about facts, I suggest you start dealing in them.

Crush, read the article again charges were dropped. So he wasn't charged because of lack of evidence. But again I don't care, he is not a Steeler

who cares "if he's not a steeler"

you are the one to bring up that story about the lady in buffalo who cant root for ben while rooting for a guy who also was accused of sexual assault.

why dont you go tell her that