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  • fordfixer
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 10922

    Jets had success running against Steelers defense

    On the Steelers: Jets had success running against Steelers defense
    A relatively quiet storm is brewing between the Steelers and Jets, 'old-school' teams with solid defenses
    Tuesday, January 18, 2011
    By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    [url="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11018/1118789-66.stm"]http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11018/1118789-66.stm[/url]

    Ryan Clark does not expect the kind of verbal animosity -- a.k.a. trash talking -- the Jets cut loose last week on the Patriots to be turned against the Steelers this week.

    The two teams have played each other just twice in the past five seasons and there is just no story line there, Clark said.

    "The only story line we have is six trophies."

    It has been 42 years since the New York Jets captured their only Lombardi Trophy in their only appearance in a Super Bowl, so the Jets might find a way to turn that comment into their own benefit.

    There is, however, a story line for both the AFC championship game at Heinz Field and the NFC championship in Chicago, both on Sunday. This is old-school football featuring four northern teams, including three that have been part of the NFL since at least 1933. Both games will be played on grass fields and of the final four teams, only the Jets play on artificial turf at home.

    More telling: The final four all believe in the concept of playing good defense. Each team's defense finished in the top 10 in the league: The Steelers ranked No. 2, the Jets No. 3, the Green Bay Packers No. 5 and the Chicago Bears No. 9.

    No Greatest Show on Turf among them, although three of their offenses have shown some potency with the Packers offense ranked No. 9, the Jets 11 and the Steelers 14. Only the Bears, ranked 30th, did not have an offense in the top half of the league.

    "Defense is important, clearly," Clark said, "unless you have a team that is going to outscore everybody you play, and I think that's what New England was kind of doing for a while."

    New England, which finished with the NFL's best record at 14-2, had just the 25th ranked defense in the league -- and the No. 8 offense, higher than any of the final four teams.

    "Their defense wasn't the best, but they were able to hold enough because they always put up so many points," Clark noted. "But in the end, you need to be solid on defense, need to give your offense the ball in good field position, and I think that's what these defenses have been doing."

    "Just watching the games throughout the weekend, you look at the plays that made a difference, it was defensively. You think about [Green Bay cornerback] Tramon Williams' interception in the end zone, then he returns one for a touchdown.

    "The way the Jets played defense against New England, [Darrelle] Revis getting a lot of balls out and tackling well and getting pressure on Tom Brady, that's what you need. Some games you are going to be able to outscore the other team, but when it comes down to it you have to stop people from putting the ball in the end zone. So these defenses playing so well have really helped these teams get to this point."
    Jets boast strong run game

    No one ran for many yards against the Steelers, who led the NFL by a wide margin and set a franchise record by allowing only 68.2 yards rushing per game.

    But the Jets did it better than anyone with 106 yards. New England was the only other team to top 100 yards rushing against the Steelers defense the past season with 103.

    LaDainian Tomlinson topped the Jets with 49 yards on 11 carries and Shonn Greene added 40 yards on 12 carries.

    "I would try to run it again," Clark said of the Jets. "They were successful with it. I think if you look at them, too, they're running the ball to keep other offenses off the field.

    "When you have a blitzing and attacking type of defense, if you can keep your play count down, if you can keep the number of plays you have to play down, you have your guys fresh and they're able to continue playing hard, continue to run to the ball, continue to pursue. And so I think that's the way they're looking at it, trying to get back to that 'ground and pound' mantra."

    Steelers defensive line coach John Mitchell will hammer that point home all week, Clark predicted.

    "I know coach Mitch, his hair is going to be on fire all week because the D-Line, that's all he ever talks about is not giving up running yards. I think if we got bombed on all day he'll be OK, but if they rush for 100, it's going to be trouble."
    Bigger, better title

    Rookie center Maurkice Pouncey earned a national championship in college at Florida and would like to add another title in the pros.

    "It's so much better," he said after experiencing his first NFL playoff game. "There is so much more on the line. In college it was awesome. We had a great group of guys and a great coaching staff. But here it is truly what you do."
    All-Pro and all-rookie teams

    Linebacker James Harrison and safety Troy Polamalu made the first team in the Pro Football Weekly/Professional Football Writers All-Pro team. Pouncey, who made the Pro Bowl, was named to the all-rookie team.

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    Molon labe

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  • fordfixer
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 10922

    #2
    Re: Jets had success running against Steelers defense

    Jets gear up for unceasing trash talk
    By Rob Rossi, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
    Tuesday, January 18, 2011
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    FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Big talk from the Big Apple's flyboys is nothing new.

    From Joe "I Guarantee It" Namath to Keyshawn "Throw Me The Damn Ball!" Johnson, Jets players have flapped their gums long before coach Rex Ryan arrived in New York two years ago.

    Still, these aren't the Same Old Jets facing the Steelers at Heinz Field on Sunday night for the AFC championship.

    Talk about impressive: They've won four of five road playoff games the past two postseasons.

    Still, the Jets, with all due respect to their more colorful predecessors, tend to make more noise than a jumbo 747 -- and Ryan is the pilot of the aircraft that had already shot down Peyton Manning's Colts and Tom Brady's Patriots on the way to a second straight conference championship game.

    "You know, maybe people take it the wrong way or look at us or whatever, but we don't try to bad-mouth an opponent," Ryan said Sunday night after the Jets' rousing 28-21 win over the No. 1 seed Patriots at Gillette Stadium.

    "We respect every opponent."

    Sure they do.

    It's not like Brady, a future Hall of Famer with three Super Bowl rings, was called an expletive by Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie last week.

    Linebacker Bart Scott never suggested late last week that Patriots wide receiver Wes Walker's "days in a uniform (were) numbered."

    Ryan certainly didn't win over the headline-hungry New York media by declaring he wasn't "here to kiss (Patriots coach Bill) Belichick's rings."

    Even a newcomer, likely Hall of Fame running back LaDainian Tomlinson, never known as a big-time talker, can't seem to help himself now that he's wearing green instead of San Diego Chargers' baby blue.

    "We're a confident group," he said. "We always feel like we have the better team."

    The Steelers probably feel the same way -- though, if the silence from their practice facility last week before a playoff game against the hated Ravens was any indication, they probably won't come out and declare that over the coming days.

    Not that the Steelers haven't employed their share of big mouths (see: former linebacker Joey Porter).

    The NFL issued a directive last week, telling teams to curb the trash talk. Still, there is no evidence that talking before playoff games has any impact on it. The Jets didn't out-talk the Patriots on Sunday.

    "No," Belichick said. "I just think we didn't play well or coach well."

    Added Patriots linebacker Jerod Mayo: "They just came out and played more physical than we did. They were able to establish the run. They were getting four yards, three yards, four yards, four yards -- and we just could never get on track."

    That sounds more like actual football talk than the trash talk for which the Jets have become infamous, especially since their preseason HBO "Hard Knocks" series.

    During one of those episodes, Ryan said the Jets were going to win the Super Bowl. They are seeking their first trip there since Super Bowl III.

    The Steelers have won six since as an organization, with 12 current starters having played on the Super Bowl XL and XLIII champions.

    No other playoff team entered this postseason with that many players owning multiple rings. The experience that comes from winning the biggest game will probably steer the Steelers away from engaging in the trash-talking game with the Jets.

    "I don't know, don't care," Steelers safety Ryan Clark said. "I don't think we have that, you know -- (the Jets) had storylines in the other places. We don't; there's just not good storylines with us. The only storyline we have is six trophies, and we're trying to get another one. And that's what we're working towards."

    The Jets don't deny they talk a tough game, and team leaders such as Scott insist all the yapping is just them showing the public what real life is like in the NFL.

    "Rex says the same things all these other coaches say within the confines' walls," Scott said. "He allows America to come inside, and he gets ridiculed for it. It's easy to say 'no comment.'

    "You guys swear we just enjoy hearing ourselves talk. If it wasn't for the media and the NFL making us talk, you wouldn't hear us saying anything."

    Not until Wednesday, anyway, when the Jets begin publicly to get ready for the Steelers the only way they know how -- by opening their mouths.

    Molon labe

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    • Crash
      Legend
      • Apr 2009
      • 5008

      #3
      Re: Jets had success running against Steelers defense

      We need to just shut up and go about our business.

      We've been here before. Act like it.

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      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #4
        Re: Jets had success running against Steelers defense

        I'm far more concerned about Sanchez throwing against our secondary than I am about their running game. Troy is less than 100%. Bmac is hurt. Will Allen potentially out.

        We actually have to rely on Anthony Madison to cover a WR...which ain't happening like we saw this past Sunday. Anthony Madison may actually be worse at pass coverage than Tyrone Carter which I thought would be impossible.
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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        • pick6
          Backup
          • Feb 2009
          • 394

          #5
          Re: Jets had success running against Steelers defense

          Originally posted by Oviedo
          I'm far more concerned about Sanchez throwing against our secondary than I am about their running game. Troy is less than 100%. Bmac is hurt. Will Allen potentially out.

          We actually have to rely on Anthony Madison to cover a WR...which ain't happening like we saw this past Sunday. Anthony Madison may actually be worse at pass coverage than Tyrone Carter which I thought would be impossible.
          Yeah I really hope Bmac will be ready for the game. That will be extremely important, but the running game is our first priority. If Sanchez is put into continuous 3rd and long this will be a disaster for the Jets. Will Allen is usually not a factor. We also need the right people for ST.

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          • hawaiiansteel
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 35648

            #6
            Re: Jets had success running against Steelers defense

            Jets’ Running Game to Collide With Steelers’ Defense



            Jason Cohn/Reuters
            Lawrence Timmons and James Harrison of the Pittsburgh Steelers tackled Baltimore Ravens’ Willis McGahee.

            By GREG BISHOP
            Published: January 20, 2011


            FLORHAM PARK, N.J. — The Jets want to run the ball against the Pittsburgh Steelers, want to showcase their ground-and-pound philosophy, want to control the clock.
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            Nick Laham/Getty Images
            Running back Ray Rice (27) of the Baltimore Ravens is hit by linebacker James Farrior (51) of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

            The Steelers’ defense does not boast a nickname, like its Steel Curtain predecessor of the 1970s. It does not have an epic trash-talker like Jets linebacker Bart Scott. Yet this defense, without much fanfare, with more role players than superstars, ranks among the best groups of run-stuffers in N.F.L. history.

            “It’s not just impressive,” said Jets defensive lineman Trevor Pryce, a 14-year veteran. “It’s historic.”

            Since the N.F.L. expanded to 16 regular-season games in 1978, six teams have held opponents under an average of 70 rushing yards for an entire season. In 2000, the Baltimore Ravens set the current standard, at 60.6 yards allowed.

            This Steelers’ group finished 2.2 yards per game behind those Ravens and 1.2 yards behind where the Minnesota Vikings’ defense finished in 2006. The common thread between those teams? The coaches who will meet on Sunday in the A.F.C. championship game at Heinz Field.

            Mike Tomlin was the defensive coordinator in 2006 with Minnesota, and he is the head coach of these Steelers. His counterpart, Rex Ryan, was the defensive line coach for the 2000 Ravens. Apparently, these two are experts when it comes to grounding ground games to a halt.

            The Jets finished third in run defense this season, but their average yards yielded was 90.9, underscoring how dominant the Steelers’ run defense was compared to the rest of the league. They finished almost 30 yards better than Chicago (90.1) and the Jets. Not surprisingly, those are three of the four teams remaining in the playoffs. (Green Bay finished 18th against in the run.)

            So how did Pittsburgh do it? With a head coach who possesses a defensive background in Tomlin and perhaps the most respected defensive coordinator in football, Dick LeBeau. With an unpredictable, unified scheme, 11 players pointed at the ball, swarming in yellow and black like an angry bunch of hornets.

            “They’re pretty athletic off the edges with their linebackers,” right guard Brandon Moore said. “They get off blocks well. And they play off each other well. They’ve really got a good, attacking style.”

            Few teams achieved much success in running the football this season against the Steelers. One that did, though, is the Jets. In their Week 15 victory, in December at Heinz Field, no Jet rushed for more than 49 yards (LaDainian Tomlinson), but collectively the Jets picked up 106 yards on the ground.

            Mark Sanchez gained 7 of those yards on a touchdown scamper late in the third quarter. That tied the score and set the stage for the Jets’ late heroics in their 22-17 victory.

            “Any time you can get 100 yards against them, you feel like you’ve got something off your back,” Moore said. “They’re looking at it like they’re on their heels a little bit, because they’re not used to that. You feel like you can do more, because they’re pressing a little bit. There’s a lot more you can do if you feel comfortable.”

            Of course, the Steelers’ best defensive player, the star safety Troy Polamalu, missed that game with an Achilles’ tendon injury. He will play Sunday, and likely in typical hair-on-fire fashion. This week, his former teammate, Jets receiver Santonio Holmes, called Polamalu the best player he had ever seen.

            The Jets, meanwhile, returned to their ground-and-pound philosophy in recent weeks. Against Indianapolis, in the first round of the playoffs, they controlled the clock with their running game, so much that Peyton Manning and the Colts offense had all of three possessions in the second half.

            Running back Shonn Greene said the key for the Jets’ ground game would be ball security. He noted that the Steelers have “guys pulling at it and tugging at it,” that “they go after the ball.” If the Jets secure the ball, if their offensive line continues to play at the highest level, it remains possible they will run the ball against these Steelers.

            Possible is the key word there.

            “We have to be able to execute,” Greene said.

            EXTRA POINTS

            Jason Taylor returned to practice in a limited role Thursday, after he sustained a concussion against New England on Sunday. Taylor said he felt fine and would practice in full Friday.

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            • AkronSteel
              Pro Bowler
              • May 2008
              • 1272

              #7
              Re: Jets had success running against Steelers defense

              The Jets running game does not scare me at all. Heck, their offense doesn't really strike any fear into me one bit. They are a team that relies on their power running game and Sanchez to not make any mistakes. Holmes and Edwards can be dangerous but I just don't see them being all that big of a factor on Sunday. As long as the Steelers do not give up the long ball which they really haven't done much of this year, I don't see Sanchez matriculating his team down the field much. He will be stuck in 3rd and longs all day because I fully expect the run D to stuff the Jets from the outset. I expect to see plenty of high and wides (Neil O'Donnell reference ) out of Sanchez on Sunday. Overall I expect the Jets to score no more than 10-14 points on offense. The key to Sunday's game will be not giving up hidden points, like on special teams or turnovers. If the Steelers can hold down their mistakes they should walk away from this game pretty comfortably. I expect the Steelers to play their best game all year come 6:30.....another Super Bowl awaits.

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