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  • PSU_dropout43
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    • May 2009
    • 820

    Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

    We need more players from the SEC.

    Agree/disagree?


    BREAK. different subject --

    Tonight, I'm scouting Andrew Luck. A little of what I've seen of Luck, he reminds me of Philip Rivers (with better throwing mechanic). Stanford vs VA Tech. Should be a good game.

    I still think Ryan Mallett should go number 1 overall. ...can't go wrong with an SEC QB with a cannon arm.
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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

    How about if we let young players actually play good things can happen!!!!!!
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • Eddie Spaghetti
      Hall of Famer
      • Jul 2008
      • 4123

      #3
      Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

      no love for Ramon Foster?

      mallets arm may be 1st pick, but his brain is more 3rd round.

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      • grotonsteel
        Hall of Famer
        • Jul 2008
        • 2810

        #4
        Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

        Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
        no love for Ramon Foster?
        +1

        Ramon Foster definitely not the worst O-lineman on Steelers O-line.
        Steelers Draft 2015
        Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
        Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
        Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
        Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #5
          Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

          Originally posted by grotonsteel
          Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
          no love for Ramon Foster?
          +1

          Ramon Foster definitely not the worst O-lineman on Steelers O-line.

          Yet 90% of this board hopes we draft Mike Pouncey to replace him

          If that is the case how good can Foster really be or is he a necessary evil like Darnell Stapleton?
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • Eddie Spaghetti
            Hall of Famer
            • Jul 2008
            • 4123

            #6
            Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

            tough question.

            if Foster can play(and i think he can) the 1st pick might be better spent on DL or CB.

            OTOH, the 2 pounceys lining up next to each other would be extremely formiddable. i trust the FO to weigh the options and make an informed decision.

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            • birtikidis
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 4628

              #7
              Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Originally posted by grotonsteel
              Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
              no love for Ramon Foster?
              +1

              Ramon Foster definitely not the worst O-lineman on Steelers O-line.

              Yet 90% of this board hopes we draft Mike Pouncey to replace him

              If that is the case how good can Foster really be or is he a necessary evil like Darnell Stapleton?
              absolutely. that way foster can go back to tackle where he belongs. I mean the other 10% want us to draft a tackle...

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              • Wolfhound45
                Starter
                • May 2008
                • 786

                #8
                Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

                Originally posted by PSU_dropout43
                We need more players from the SEC.

                Agree/disagree?


                This is a trap, right? SEC homer here all the way!

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                • steelblood
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 4166

                  #9
                  Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

                  This is a terrible generalization, but I like tough players from the SEC over PAC Ten softies any day.


                  Sorry Troy.
                  Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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                  • Va Steelr
                    Backup
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 138

                    #10
                    Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

                    It's hard to argue the point that the SEC is usually the best conference most years.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35649

                      #11
                      Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

                      Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                      no love for Ramon Foster?

                      Ramon Foster is a below-average NFL starting guard. better than Trai Essex, but that's about it.

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                      • Eddie Spaghetti
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 4123

                        #12
                        Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                        no love for Ramon Foster?

                        Ramon Foster is a below-average NFL starting guard. better than Trai Essex, but that's about it.
                        says you.

                        his play the last month has been very good.

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                        • birtikidis
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 4628

                          #13
                          Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

                          [quote=Eddie Spaghetti]
                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          Originally posted by "Eddie Spaghetti":14nmxls6
                          no love for Ramon Foster?

                          Ramon Foster is a below-average NFL starting guard. better than Trai Essex, but that's about it.
                          says you.

                          his play the last month has been very good.[/quote:14nmxls6]
                          I haven't really been all that impressed by Foster. I will agree that he's improving. I'd like to see him get a shot at being the starting RT next year. Of course, that would require the drafting of a certain players twin brother...

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35649

                            #14
                            Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

                            [quote=Eddie Spaghetti][quote=hawaiiansteel][quote="Eddie Spaghetti":10oek3v8]no love for Ramon Foster?
                            [/quote]


                            Ramon Foster is a below-average NFL starting guard. better than Trai Essex, but that's about it.[/quote]

                            says you.

                            his play the last month has been very good.[/quote:10oek3v8]


                            I'm not the only one saying that...Mendy rushed 14 times for 36 yards against the Browns, our OL needs an upgrade at LT and both OG positions.

                            the write-up below is a review of the OL's performance against the Panthers, I'll post the one for the Browns when it comes out.


                            [b]Analyzing the O-Line: Falling Below the Line[/b]

                            Posted on January 2, 2011 by JJ


                            If this was a college class, I’d be docked a letter grade or two for tardiness. Sorry everyone, traveling for Christmas meant that I was away from my DVR (and NFL Game Rewind) for a good part of the week. So this week’s offensive line analysis is arriving just in time for the next game.

                            Or maybe it was a late Christmas gift to avoid rewatching Jonathan Scott’s first series of the game for a couple of days. When I finally got around to it, it was rather shocking to watch. In the live viewing of the game, I was obviously aware of his blown block on Rashard Mendenhall’s tackle for a loss, but it wasn’t until the second viewing that the true magnitude of his failure was apparent.

                            Scott pulled an 0-for-5.

                            On the first five plays of the game, the left tackle failed to successfully pull off his block. On the first play he tried and failed on a cut block. On the second play he blocked no one. On the third play he whiffed on blocking his man who made the tackle. On the fourth play he was driven back into Ben Roethlisberger on a pass play. And on the fifth play, he missed on his block down to seal the hole opened when Chris Kemoeatu pulled out to lead a running play in the other direction. After that play Sean Kugler blew a gasket, Scott threw his helmet and Trai Essex jogged into the game.

                            I’d love to say that after clearing his head with his benching, Scott returned to the game and played remarkably well. It would be more accurate to say that he returned to his normal level of mediocrity — take those five plays out and he graded out at 74 percent

                            [color=#00FF00]Scott’s awful play made Chris Kemoeatu’s bad game less apparent, but this was one of Kemoeatu’s worst efforts of the year (although not nearly as bad as the baseball bat beating that Kyle Williams gave him). Kemoeatu’s problems came in part because the Steelers asked him to pull numerous times and he struggled to engage his targets. He also had trouble with getting driven back on pass plays and with picking up line twists.[/color]

                            Maurkice Pouncey had no problems in pass protection. But in run blocking, Pouncey had numerous plays where he was either stalemated at the line or driven back by his man. Hopefully this is just a rough game and not a sign he’s hitting the wall 15 games into his rookie season.

                            Flozell Adams was about as steady as you could hope for. If the rookie may be hitting the wall, the senior citizen of the line responded with one of his best games of the season. [color=#00FF00]Ramon Foster continues to be a below-average starting guard, but that still makes him an upgrade over Trai Essex.[/color]

                            [url="http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/01/analyzing-oline-falling-line/"]http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/01/a ... ling-line/[/url]

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                            • Eddie Spaghetti
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 4123

                              #15
                              Re: Wallace and Pouncey -- What we learned...

                              lol.

                              who the hell is jj?

                              i have read several reports that say his play is steadily improving, but i trust my own two eyes and they tell me the same thing.

                              you cannot have pro-bowlers at every position along the OL. we can win with guys like Ramon Foster. this year is proving it all over again.

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