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  • BradshawsHairdresser
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 7056

    Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

    ...have been greatly exaggerated.
  • Crash
    Legend
    • Apr 2009
    • 5008

    #2
    Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

    Because of one game against a 2-10 team?

    He's not consistent anymore. Coaches know it too. You'll notice that they are making an effort to get WALLACE involved more in YAC yard situations.

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    • drprwnap
      Backup
      • Apr 2008
      • 370

      #3
      Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

      Originally posted by Crash
      Because of one game against a 2-10 team?

      He's not consistent anymore. Coaches know it too. You'll notice that they are making an effort to get WALLACE involved more in YAC yard situations.
      Couldn't disagree more. Hines still makes plays. He's not the "go to guy". Hasn't been for years. He's a possession receiver, one that knows how to get open and he does it quite well. Coaches know Hines value.

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #4
        Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

        Originally posted by Crash
        Because of one game against a 2-10 team?

        He's not consistent anymore. Coaches know it too. You'll notice that they are making an effort to get WALLACE involved more in YAC yard situations.
        C'mon, man...Hines may not be the model of consistency that he once was, but he's had more than just one game against a 2-10 team. In fact, he's had four 100+ yard games this season (the same as Wallace). It's not as if Wallace is uber-consistent at this point either (he has 3 or fewer catches in 9 out of 13 games so far). They both bring something different to the table, and I am able to appreciate both of them for what they are.
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #5
          Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          Originally posted by Crash
          Because of one game against a 2-10 team?

          He's not consistent anymore. Coaches know it too. You'll notice that they are making an effort to get WALLACE involved more in YAC yard situations.
          C'mon, man...Hines may not be the model of consistency that he once was, but he's had more than just one game against a 2-10 team. In fact, he's had four 100+ yard games this season (the same as Wallace). It's not as if Wallace is uber-consistent at this point either (he has 3 or fewer catches in 9 out of 13 games so far). They both bring something different to the table, and I am able to appreciate both of them for what they are.
          Hines was clearly the #2 last year in terms of ability and may be #2.5 this year but he can still contribute and still has a role. He is still the best route runner we have as a WR and can find open spaces to help keep the chains moving.

          That said we should not become too complacent about our WR corps because Sanders and Brown while flashing potential have really shown nothing yet except that something is there that can be developed.
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27532

            #6
            Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

            Hines is the old possession WR... nothing more. WR bubble screen's or WR reverses should be reserved for the youngin's..

            ARE had an awesome grab.
            Steelers 27
            Rats 16

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            • grotonsteel
              Hall of Famer
              • Jul 2008
              • 2810

              #7
              Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              Originally posted by Crash
              Because of one game against a 2-10 team?

              He's not consistent anymore. Coaches know it too. You'll notice that they are making an effort to get WALLACE involved more in YAC yard situations.
              C'mon, man...Hines may not be the model of consistency that he once was, but he's had more than just one game against a 2-10 team. In fact, he's had four 100+ yard games this season (the same as Wallace). It's not as if Wallace is uber-consistent at this point either (he has 3 or fewer catches in 9 out of 13 games so far). They both bring something different to the table, and I am able to appreciate both of them for what they are.
              Hines was clearly the #2 last year in terms of ability and may be #2.5 this year but he can still contribute and still has a role. He is still the best route runner we have as a WR and can find open spaces to help keep the chains moving.



              Was Hines covered whole game by Jonathan Wade??? If so he better have 100 yards game..
              Steelers Draft 2015
              Rd 1: Devante Parker - WR/ Kevin Johnson - CB
              Rd 2: Danielle Hunter -OLB
              Rd 3: Steven Nelson - CB
              Rd 4: Derron Smith - S
              Rd 5: Henry Anderson - DE
              Rd 6: Wes Saxton - TE
              Rd 7: Deon Simon - DT

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              • ikestops85
                Hall of Famer
                • Jun 2008
                • 3724

                #8
                Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Hines is the old possession WR... nothing more. WR bubble screen's or WR reverses should be reserved for the youngin's..

                ARE had an awesome grab.
                He is the old possession WR and he does it well. He could have had many more yards but Ben was off target on a couple of throws. Hines also made a great catch over the middle on that 2nd and 30 play.

                Granted he is not the receiver he was 5 years ago but the man knows how to play football. He is still valuable to have out on the field.
                As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                but Go Steelers!!!

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                • NWNewell
                  Backup
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 384

                  #9
                  Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

                  There is no "demise" of Hines.

                  He has not lost a step... he never had one to begin with.

                  He has not become injury prone.

                  He has the same will, desire, and work ethic he always had.

                  The only problem is Hines does not have the talent to beat #1 CB's in man coverage. But I'll talk him as my #2 WR over anyone else in the league (due to other attributes besides just running and catching). When he has anther WR drawing more attention from the #1 CB's and man coverage, i.e. Burres, Holmes, and now an emerging Wallace (even if he is not listed as #1 WR on the depth charts), Ward can do what he does best and run good routes and find holes in zone coverage. Earlier in the year defenses were not giving as much attention to Wallace and Ward would struggle to get open at times. But now defenses are much more wary of Wallace.

                  Sometimes it amazes me how much he gets open as slow as he his. But then I realize that Wallace is drawing man and often safety help, so a lot of the time the rest of the defense is playing zone and Ward is amazing and finding the holes in the zone coverage.

                  Hines is almost as good as he ever was. And as Wallace improves and draws more attention, Hines will continue make big contributions.

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                  • flippy
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 17088

                    #10
                    Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

                    Hines makes an impact on nearly every big play we have on offense. He's critical to this team. And he makes just as much a difference with the ball in or out of his hands.
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                    • Crash
                      Legend
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5008

                      #11
                      Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

                      C'mon, man...Hines may not be the model of consistency that he once was, but he's had more than just one game against a 2-10 team. In fact, he's had four 100+ yard games this season (the same as Wallace).
                      And Hines also has 8 of 13 games UNDER 40 yards.

                      Don't compare Wallace to Ward. That's a joke.

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                      • Dee Dub
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4652

                        #12
                        Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

                        Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                        ...have been greatly exaggerated.
                        Not really. If you choose to ignore it because he had one good game versus the hapless Bengals then cool. But look at his numbers for the season. They speak loud and clear.
                        Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                        1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                        • birtikidis
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 4628

                          #13
                          Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

                          I'm not gonna look at stats.
                          I love all of our recievers. as long as their steelers, I'll argue FOR them, never against.
                          Ward does so much that you can't decipher via stats. I can tell you this.. on 3rd down, he's the #1 target and for a damn good reason.

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27532

                            #14
                            Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

                            Originally posted by Dee Dub
                            Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                            ...have been greatly exaggerated.
                            Not really. If you choose to ignore it because he had one good game versus the hapless Bengals then cool. But look at his numbers for the season. They speak loud and clear.
                            Jerry Jones said it perfectly on 60 minutes... "Stats are for losers"

                            I don't care about Hines stat line... I care about our W vs L record and if he is helping or hurting the team.

                            Throw the stats out the window... Ben missed 4 games and is playing on one leg. Our OL is terrible and riddled with injuries. Hines isn't the problem.
                            Steelers 27
                            Rats 16

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #15
                              Re: Reports of Hines Wards' Demise...

                              Originally posted by Crash
                              C'mon, man...Hines may not be the model of consistency that he once was, but he's had more than just one game against a 2-10 team. In fact, he's had four 100+ yard games this season (the same as Wallace).
                              And Hines also has 8 of 13 games UNDER 40 yards.

                              Don't compare Wallace to Ward. That's a joke.
                              Okay...I won't compare the future Hall of Famer to the 2nd year Newb anymore.

                              I love Wallace, by the way. Bought my son a Wallace throwback jersey, even. He has improved his game as of late, with 5 or more catches in 4 out of the last 6 games after only having only 2 or 3 catches in each of the first 7 games this season.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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