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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
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    AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

    AFC North offensive coordinator rankings

    December, 8, 2010
    By James Walker



    1. Cam Cameron, Baltimore Ravens




    Analysis: Cameron is getting heat again in Baltimore. But by a significant margin, the Ravens have the highest-ranked offense in the division and are No. 14 overall in the NFL. The next closest team is the Steelers, who are No. 21. But there were increased expectations for Baltimore's offense that haven't been met so far. The Ravens have the talent to be a top-10 offense, but inconsistency has plagued this group. There are weeks Baltimore is capable of scoring 37 points and other weeks it only scores 10 points. There seems to be frustration in the locker room developing from the offense's lack of production, which is why Baltimore needs to continue to win games to keep everyone happy.



    2. Bruce Arians, Pittsburgh Steelers





    Analysis: Arians also gets a lot of heat in Pittsburgh, but he's doing enough to win games. The Steelers are 9-3 and in control of the AFC North, in part, due to some timely scores by Arians' offense, particularly in the fourth quarters and in overtime. Pittsburgh's No. 21 ranking is a bit deceiving because the offense didn't get many yards in the first month of the season without franchise quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who was suspended. Despite plenty of injuries on the offensive line, the Steelers are No. 10 in rushing at 120 yards per game.



    3. Bob Bratkowski, Cincinnati Bengals



    Analysis: Bratkowski is out of the basement of our offensive coordinator rankings, as his No. 22-ranked offense has been able to score in recent weeks. Although it hasn't translated to victories, the Bengals have scored 30 or more points in two of the past three games, which is a feat no other AFC North team has accomplished. Still, this offense has virtually ignored the running game all season and could use more creativity to create mismatches. Even receiver Terrell Owens ripped the play calling after the loss to the New Orleans Saints.



    4. Brian Daboll, Cleveland Browns



    Analysis: The Browns are No. 27 in total offense and would be nowhere this year without the running game led by tailback Peyton Hillis. But when teams gear up to stop Hillis, Daboll seems to have trouble making the proper adjustments. Cleveland's offense does have some imagination at times and is 4-2 in its last six games despite a revolving door at quarterback. But there are no excuses for the amount of times the Browns have been shut down in long stretches of games this season. Cleveland's defense also is forcing turnovers and doing all it can to give the offense a short field, and too often Daboll's group can't do anything with it. There's also some blame on the coaching staff for failing to develop receivers and second-round draft picks Brian Robiskie and Mohamed Massaquoi this year. Both have been major disappointments in their second year.

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  • msp26505
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    Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

    So Arians is the second skinniest girl at the fat chick dance. Whooopdeedoo.

    If we're comparing offenses (or teams), I don't want the Steelers keeping pace with the Bengals and Browns of the world. I'd like them closer to where a perennial playoff and SB contender should be. Maybe not on the level of the *'s or Saints offensively, but definitely in the top third or quarter of the league.

    On the other hand, statistical success does not always translate to wins, as we have seen.

    I'd just be happy if Arians would do something to protect Ben a little more often and to counter whatever the opposing defense is doing. Simply adding a few quick-hitter passes and using a fullback when necessary would go a long way.
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    • Djfan
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      • May 2008
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      #3
      Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

      Originally posted by msp26505
      So Arians is the second skinniest girl at the fat chick dance. Whooopdeedoo.

      Awesome.
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      • Stewie
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        • Sep 2009
        • 360

        #4
        Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

        Originally posted by msp26505
        So Arians is the second skinniest girl at the fat chick dance. Whooopdeedoo.

        If we're comparing offenses (or teams), I don't want the Steelers keeping pace with the Bengals and Browns of the world. I'd like them closer to where a perennial playoff and SB contender should be. Maybe not on the level of the *'s or Saints offensively, but definitely in the top third or quarter of the league.

        On the other hand, statistical success does not always translate to wins, as we have seen. I'd just be happy if Arians would do something to protect Ben a little more often and to counter whatever the opposing defense is doing. Simply adding a few quick-hitter passes and using a fullback when necessary would go a long way.
        So true. San Diego is #1 in offense and defense...

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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
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          Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

          Originally posted by Stewie
          Originally posted by msp26505
          So Arians is the second skinniest girl at the fat chick dance. Whooopdeedoo.

          If we're comparing offenses (or teams), I don't want the Steelers keeping pace with the Bengals and Browns of the world. I'd like them closer to where a perennial playoff and SB contender should be. Maybe not on the level of the *'s or Saints offensively, but definitely in the top third or quarter of the league.

          On the other hand, statistical success does not always translate to wins, as we have seen. I'd just be happy if Arians would do something to protect Ben a little more often and to counter whatever the opposing defense is doing. Simply adding a few quick-hitter passes and using a fullback when necessary would go a long way.
          So true. San Diego is #1 in offense and defense...
          yep... but how much more can Arians do to protect him with this OL? The pistol formation was a great idea

          What exactly will a FB do for us? We add Johnson at times but then everyone says it's obvious we are going to run. What exactly will a FB do given other teams success without one?
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          • msp26505
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            • Jan 2009
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            Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

            Originally posted by feltdizz
            Originally posted by Stewie
            Originally posted by msp26505
            So Arians is the second skinniest girl at the fat chick dance. Whooopdeedoo.

            If we're comparing offenses (or teams), I don't want the Steelers keeping pace with the Bengals and Browns of the world. I'd like them closer to where a perennial playoff and SB contender should be. Maybe not on the level of the *'s or Saints offensively, but definitely in the top third or quarter of the league.

            On the other hand, statistical success does not always translate to wins, as we have seen. I'd just be happy if Arians would do something to protect Ben a little more often and to counter whatever the opposing defense is doing. Simply adding a few quick-hitter passes and using a fullback when necessary would go a long way.
            So true. San Diego is #1 in offense and defense...
            yep... but how much more can Arians do to protect him with this OL? The pistol formation was a great idea

            What exactly will a FB do for us? We add Johnson at times but then everyone says it's obvious we are going to run. What exactly will a FB do given other teams success without one?
            Now that we know Johnson can actually catch, I would like to see Arians line him up as a FB, then throw to him out of the backfield sometimes so that teams don't KNOW it will be a run every time a FB is in there.

            Then when we do run it actually has more impact and maybe Mendy can take advantage of the extra blocker.
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            • Oviedo
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              • May 2008
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              Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

              What's funny is that if you read the Ravens message board they think Cameron is incompetent and has ruined their offense and Flacco. Steeler fans seem to think he is very good.

              Just shows that no OC will ever do enough to please fans and we can count on endless threads condemning whoever has the job.
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              • ikestops85
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                • Jun 2008
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                #8
                Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

                Here is an example of what the Baltimoron fans think of Cam

                [url=http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/30148-its-clear-cam-cameron-is-not-an-elite-oc/]Whining About Cam[/url]
                As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

                but Go Steelers!!!

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                • SteelTorch
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1361

                  #9
                  Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

                  Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                  Analysis: Arians also gets a lot of heat in Pittsburgh, but he's doing enough to win games. The Steelers are 9-3 and in control of the AFC North, in part, due to some timely scores by Arians' offense, particularly in the fourth quarters and in overtime. Pittsburgh's No. 21 ranking is a bit deceiving because the offense didn't get many yards in the first month of the season without franchise quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who was suspended. Despite plenty of injuries on the offensive line, the Steelers are No. 10 in rushing at 120 yards per game.
                  I love the whole "he does enough to win games" rationalization. It implies two ridiculous things:

                  1. That he alone is responsible for success of the offense, not the players Ben's ability to improvise.
                  2. That we don't have a defense that keeps the opponents from scoring.

                  That's the kind of logic that makes teams keep problematic people around. :P
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                  • Djfan
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                    Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    yep... but how much more can Arians do to protect him with this OL?
                    He can run faster pass plays to negate the effect of a rush or blitz.

                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    What exactly will a FB do for us? We add Johnson at times but then everyone says it's obvious we are going to run. What exactly will a FB do given other teams success without one?
                    We are not other teams so it doesn't matter what they do or don't do. A FB will give Ben an additional blocker, and open holes for Mendy or whomever.

                    That's what.
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                    • Oviedo
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                      • May 2008
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                      Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      Originally posted by Stewie
                      Originally posted by msp26505
                      So Arians is the second skinniest girl at the fat chick dance. Whooopdeedoo.

                      If we're comparing offenses (or teams), I don't want the Steelers keeping pace with the Bengals and Browns of the world. I'd like them closer to where a perennial playoff and SB contender should be. Maybe not on the level of the *'s or Saints offensively, but definitely in the top third or quarter of the league.

                      On the other hand, statistical success does not always translate to wins, as we have seen. I'd just be happy if Arians would do something to protect Ben a little more often and to counter whatever the opposing defense is doing. Simply adding a few quick-hitter passes and using a fullback when necessary would go a long way.
                      So true. San Diego is #1 in offense and defense...
                      yep... but how much more can Arians do to protect him with this OL? The pistol formation was a great idea

                      What exactly will a FB do for us? We add Johnson at times but then everyone says it's obvious we are going to run. What exactly will a FB do given other teams success without one?
                      The entire issue with the OL confounds any evaluation of Arians' scheme or how he calls play. For all any of us know his play calling is perfect (highly unlikely) but the OL performance is so uneven the outcomes are inadequete. We will never really know.

                      I do fault him for not doing more 3 step drop plays and more dink and dunk. That compensates for a weak OL.

                      I do commend him for implementing an offense that has the potential for keeping up with other elite offenses like you have to in the play offs.
                      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                      • hawaiiansteel
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                        • May 2008
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                        Originally posted by Oviedo
                        What's funny is that if you read the Ravens message board they think Cameron is incompetent and has ruined their offense and Flacco.

                        I can understand why Ravens fans are whining about Cameron, why in the world would he call a pass play in a second-and-5 situation with 3:22 left on the clock that allowed Troy to strip the ball from Flacco and essentially allow the Steelers to win the game?

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                        • feltdizz
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                          Originally posted by msp26505

                          Now that we know Johnson can actually catch, I would like to see Arians line him up as a FB, then throw to him out of the backfield sometimes so that teams don't KNOW it will be a run every time a FB is in there.

                          Then when we do run it actually has more impact and maybe Mendy can take advantage of the extra blocker.
                          he caught passes out of the back field in the first 2 games of the season... he isn't fast enough to be a threat out of the back field IMO.

                          I would like to see more passes in the flat as well... but I have a feeling Ben would rather throw down field.
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                          • feltdizz
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                            Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

                            Originally posted by Djfan
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            yep... but how much more can Arians do to protect him with this OL?
                            He can run faster pass plays to negate the effect of a rush or blitz.

                            I agree... but it sure seems like Ben would suggest these plays as well if he felt they would help our team. People want quick passes and shorter routes... but we all know that isn't Ben's game. You have to take the bad with the good when it comes to Ben's style. Ben isn't the type to Tom Brady it down the field.

                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            What exactly will a FB do for us? We add Johnson at times but then everyone says it's obvious we are going to run. What exactly will a FB do given other teams success without one?
                            We are not other teams so it doesn't matter what they do or don't do. A FB will give Ben an additional blocker, and open holes for Mendy or whomever.

                            That's what.
                            We had Johnson back their and the holes didn't open... it doesn't matter if we have a FB when our OL is banged up.

                            screaming for a FB is like screaming for the 4-3. It's a waste of time.
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                            • skyhawk
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 3732

                              #15
                              Re: AFC North Offensive Coordinator Rankings

                              Originally posted by ikestops85
                              Here is an example of what the Baltimoron fans think of Cam

                              [url=http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/topic/30148-its-clear-cam-cameron-is-not-an-elite-oc/]Whining About Cam[/url]
                              A bit of trivia:

                              Cam Cameron actually played basketball for Bobby Knight at Indiana.

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