The call on Deebo

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  • focosteeler
    Starter
    • May 2010
    • 760

    #16
    Re: The call on Deebo

    Originally posted by Slapstick
    KDKA showed a pic of the ref BEFORE Harrison got there and his hand was already on the flag. That flag was coming regardless....
    you got a link?? id like to see it
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    • DukieBoy
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3488

      #17
      Re: The call on Deebo

      Originally posted by Flasteel
      Originally posted by Shoe
      Originally posted by Flasteel
      Originally posted by calmkiller
      Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
      you guys are out of your minds.

      thats been a flag for two years now.
      Yup
      Look at the video before you guys start calling the rest of us delusional. At worst the hit was borderline.
      Dude... you can argue that it's stupid that the league chooses to penalize what (in the past 100 years of the game) has been a textbook tackle. But you are being a homer if you are saying that can't be a penalty in today's day & age.

      Here it is in HD brother. His arms are actually extended beyond Fitzpatrick as his helmet and shoulder collide with Fitzpatrick's chest.

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      I said it was at worst a borderline call. As a Steeler fan, guess which side I take along that border. Way to step up for your team dude.
      I stopped this video at 30 seconds. It shows the initial contact. Harrison's facemask is in the QB's chest and his hands are forward too. If the crown of his helmet is the top of his head, I don't see that evidence there. It looks like a good hit to me. That flag came in quick, like an impulse call, not a deliberative call.





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      • Flasteel
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4004

        #18
        Re: The call on Deebo

        Originally posted by Shoe
        Originally posted by Flasteel
        Here it is in HD brother. His arms are actually extended beyond Fitzpatrick as his helmet and shoulder collide with Fitzpatrick's chest.

        [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwS8Clfp2vM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwS8Clfp2vM[/url]

        I said it was at worst a borderline call. As a Steeler fan, guess which side I take along that border. Way to step up for your team dude.
        What I'm saying is that the call was made, and I can not argue why he might make that call. It's a bang-bang call...

        So it's irrespective of the fact that it might look (on replay) to be a bad call.
        I get that no amount of bitching is going to change the call that was made. But after viewing the second video, I'd say this is a highly questionable call.

        Maybe Harrison's style of play has drawn attention to himself (as evidenced by the quick flag), but here's one thing we've learned about late hits on the quarterback. If you're flagged for it in the game, you will get a fine if it's legit. Harrison received no fine last week, which tells me the league viewed that hit as legal - despite the penalty.

        He was screwed in last week's and my gut tells me the league will let us know that he was screwed here too.
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        • Shoe
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 4044

          #19
          Re: The call on Deebo

          I'm not even talking about bitching about a call... hell, as soon as I saw that call, I did that exact thing (texting a bunch of friends about it). But you and the original TS (who said it's top 5 worst all-time calls... apparently this guy was born in 2006 and missed the Pete Morelli call) seem to be saying you have no clue why a flag was thrown, and that I don't agree with.

          I would say that the hold call on Kemo that negated Mendenhall's run was more inexpicable. We all know how much they protect QBs. We know that when you tend to blast into the QB, you run a large risk of drawing a flag. That's just the way the NFL is these days.
          I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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          • Flasteel
            Hall of Famer
            • May 2008
            • 4004

            #20
            Re: The call on Deebo

            Originally posted by Shoe
            I'm not even talking about bitching about a call... hell, as soon as I saw that call, I did that exact thing (texting a bunch of friends about it). But you and the original TS (who said it's top 5 worst all-time calls... apparently this guy was born in 2006 and missed the Pete Morelli call) seem to be saying you have no clue why a flag was thrown, and that I don't agree with.

            I would say that the hold call on Kemo that negated Mendenhall's run was more inexpicable. We all know how much they protect QBs. We know that when you tend to blast into the QB, you run a large risk of drawing a flag. That's just the way the NFL is these days.

            No way it's in my all-time top 5. I've seen 5 worse calls this year alone.

            Still a bad call, and bad calls keep coming each week.
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            • Discipline of Steel
              Hall of Famer
              • Aug 2008
              • 3882

              #21
              Re: The call on Deebo

              Im starting to hope there is no football next year if the players dont INSIST on a reasonable penalty and fine process for tackling. It has to be simple and applicable to all players. I would be a proponent of a Spearing or Nothing rule.

              What is going on now..."I dont even want to talk about it."
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              • chiken
                Backup
                • Jun 2010
                • 489

                #22
                Re: The call on Deebo

                They flagged the man last week for basically hitting another grown man to hard. Why are we surprised at how fast the Ref Grabbed for his flag. The Ref saw how fast James was coming, he knew it was going to be a hard shot. In this League that is a No No..

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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 35649

                  #23
                  Re: The call on Deebo

                  Harrison pleads innocent on latest hit

                  By Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
                  Monday, November 29, 2010




                  ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- James Harrison said he did nothing wrong on the play that resulted in a personal foul penalty yesterday and will be reviewed by the NFL this week.

                  The Steelers' outside linebacker said some unlikely sources will back up his claim that he made a legal hit when he belted Ryan Fitzpatrick in the chest as the Bills quarterback released a pass in the Steelers' 19-16 overtime win.

                  "The whole (Bills') offensive line," Harrison said. "Ain't never had that one. That's a first."

                  Harrison said he does not expect the NFL to fine him for the play. His greater concern is that such a penalty will eventually cost the Steelers a game.

                  Yesterday's game pivoted a couple of plays after Harrison was called for roughing the passer for the third time in the past five weeks.

                  The Steelers were leading, 13-0, and firmly in control before Fred Jackson caught a slant pass and turned it into a 65-yard touchdown. Three plays earlier, Harrison slammed into Fitzpatrick on second-and-10 from the Bills' 20-yard line.

                  He was penalized for leading with his helmet on the hit.

                  "They're making these calls and when it comes down to it, it's a possibility that it could cost us the game," Harrison said.

                  Harrison and coach Mike Tomlin were clearly upset about the call after it happened.

                  Tomlin did not comment on the officiating after the Steelers had to sweat out their eighth win of the season.

                  "I'm not even going to talk about it," he said.

                  Harrison said just as with Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell a week earlier, he made sure he did not land on Fitzpatrick.

                  He did not get fined for his roughing-the-passer penalty against the Raiders. The three-time Pro Bowler said he should not have been flagged for it yesterday.

                  "I guess referees are getting to a point where they're afraid not to make a call," Harrison said.

                  [url="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_711403.html"]http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 11403.html[/url]

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                  • Crash
                    Legend
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5008

                    #24
                    Re: The call on Deebo

                    And somehow they all missed Kelsay grabbing Mewelde Moore on 3rd down deep in Bills territory.

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