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  • ikestops85
    Hall of Famer
    • Jun 2008
    • 3724

    #16
    Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

    [quote=Dee Dub][quote="NJ-STEELER":3ecp10n7]
    Originally posted by "Dee Dub":3ecp10n7
    Originally posted by steelblood
    Wallace is great. Love the kid. He is a great big play receiver and is a decent guy for slants. But, Holmes had outstanding change of direction and intermediate route running skills. Wallace isn't there (not yet at least) - not even close.

    We should have kept Holmes. As it is, we should sit El and play the kids, they are better.
    Yeah I hear ya...but Santonio didnt really didn score many "Touchdowns"...and Mike Wallace does..

    And I could care less about all that route running and change of directions stuff..

    Wallace gets in the end zone.
    i've seen that agreement on other boards and just really think its stupid.

    not trying to attack you either. but, for someone with as much football knowledge as you portray on these boards, its one of the dumbest arguments i've ever seen.

    suddenly yards between the goal lines aren't important??? c'mon

    its fine that you like wallace bette then holmes. i like the kid too, but dont try to degrade what moves the ball or what holmes meant to us because he isn't here anymore[/quote:3ecp10n7]

    Not at all. See I am a believer that once the Steelers finally make Wallace their go-to number 1 he is going to do more than just score TD's. He is going to be one of the leagues elite receivers. Personally I think he is ready now...but unfortunately it usually takes the Steelers longer than other teams to figure out what they have in younger players.

    What did we hear last night about the Patriots?? They had how many rookies starting on defense? 3?? Exactly.[/quote:3ecp10n7]

    Sorry Dee Dub but you are wrong!! They had 4 rookies starting on defense.

    I am in agreement with you on Wallace. Last night he showed he can run just about any route and be successful. I know a lot of his catches came in garbage time but he still showed the skill. I do agree with Ruthless though that while Wallace has replace Homes we haven't replaced Wallace.

    Of course if we had both receivers we would be a better team but we don't so let's move on. Hopefully Arians learned that Wallace can do more than run deep and we can make a living on the dump pass over the middle like so many teams do to us.
    As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

    but Go Steelers!!!

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    • rockonsteel
      Backup
      • Nov 2009
      • 215

      #17
      Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

      [quote=ikestops85][quote=Dee Dub]
      Originally posted by "NJ-STEELER":1qh3s1n3
      Originally posted by "Dee Dub":1qh3s1n3
      Originally posted by steelblood
      Wallace is great. Love the kid. He is a great big play receiver and is a decent guy for slants. But, Holmes had outstanding change of direction and intermediate route running skills. Wallace isn't there (not yet at least) - not even close.

      We should have kept Holmes. As it is, we should sit El and play the kids, they are better.
      Yeah I hear ya...but Santonio didnt really didn score many "Touchdowns"...and Mike Wallace does..

      And I could care less about all that route running and change of directions stuff..

      Wallace gets in the end zone.
      i've seen that agreement on other boards and just really think its stupid.

      not trying to attack you either. but, for someone with as much football knowledge as you portray on these boards, its one of the dumbest arguments i've ever seen.

      suddenly yards between the goal lines aren't important??? c'mon

      its fine that you like wallace bette then holmes. i like the kid too, but dont try to degrade what moves the ball or what holmes meant to us because he isn't here anymore
      Not at all. See I am a believer that once the Steelers finally make Wallace their go-to number 1 he is going to do more than just score TD's. He is going to be one of the leagues elite receivers. Personally I think he is ready now...but unfortunately it usually takes the Steelers longer than other teams to figure out what they have in younger players.

      What did we hear last night about the Patriots?? They had how many rookies starting on defense? 3?? Exactly.[/quote:1qh3s1n3]

      Sorry Dee Dub but you are wrong!! They had 4 rookies starting on defense.

      I am in agreement with you on Wallace. Last night he showed he can run just about any route and be successful. I know a lot of his catches came in garbage time but he still showed the skill. I do agree with Ruthless though that while Wallace has replace Homes we haven't replaced Wallace.

      Of course if we had both receivers we would be a better team but we don't so let's move on. Hopefully Arians learned that Wallace can do more than run deep and we can make a living on the dump pass over the middle like so many teams do to us.[/quote:1qh3s1n3]

      Hey Ike, go easy on DeeDub. It was an honest mistake. He obviously confused the 4 rookie starters on defense with the 3 TDs their rookie TE smoked the defense for. It happens to the best of us.

      And Bruce Airhead doesn't appear to have much of a capacity for learning. Otherwise, we'd see him making a lot more adjustments.


      Rockon

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27531

        #18
        Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

        just thought I would bump this thread...

        my wife, who is a Steeler fan by default knows next to nothing about football...

        but on Sunday night all she kept saying was #17. He is going to be a star. Now she wants one of those female jerseys they are pimping on TV... #17.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • Dee Dub
          Hall of Famer
          • Jan 2010
          • 4652

          #19
          Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

          Originally posted by feltdizz
          just thought I would bump this thread...

          my wife, who is a Steeler fan by default knows next to nothing about football...

          but on Sunday night all she kept saying was #17. He is going to be a star. Now she wants one of those female jerseys they are pimping on TV... #17.
          By season’s end he’ll be considered one of the leagues brightest stars. I’m thinking…

          65 receptions 1300 plus yards 13 TD’s

          And he will have done some no other Steelers has ever done. Scored more than 12 TD’s at the WR position.
          Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

          1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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          • BradshawsHairdresser
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 7056

            #20
            Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

            Originally posted by Dee Dub
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            just thought I would bump this thread...

            my wife, who is a Steeler fan by default knows next to nothing about football...

            but on Sunday night all she kept saying was #17. He is going to be a star. Now she wants one of those female jerseys they are pimping on TV... #17.
            By season’s end he’ll be considered one of the leagues brightest stars. I’m thinking…

            65 receptions 1300 plus yards 13 TD’s

            And he will have done some no other Steelers has ever done. Scored more than 12 TD’s at the WR position.
            And next season, 95 receptions, 1900 yards and 19 TD's.

            Probably won't happen, but the potential is there.

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            • Shawn
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #21
              Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

              Originally posted by Crash
              You are missing the issue.

              Wallace replacing Holmes is fine.

              ARE/Sanders replacing Wallace is not.
              $$$
              Trolls are people too.

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              • Dee Dub
                Hall of Famer
                • Jan 2010
                • 4652

                #22
                Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

                Originally posted by Shawn
                Originally posted by Crash
                You are missing the issue.

                Wallace replacing Holmes is fine.

                ARE/Sanders replacing Wallace is not.
                $$$
                I think by seasons end that issue wont be an issue either.

                Emmanuel Sanders has the make up to be a legit number 2. He just needs playing time. As soon as they give it to him the sooner he takes over.
                Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27531

                  #23
                  Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

                  Originally posted by Dee Dub
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  Originally posted by Crash
                  You are missing the issue.

                  Wallace replacing Holmes is fine.

                  ARE/Sanders replacing Wallace is not.
                  $$$
                  I think by seasons end that issue wont be an issue either.

                  Emmanuel Sanders has the make up to be a legit number 2. He just needs playing time. As soon as they give it to him the sooner he takes over.
                  he is getting time... he has made some decent plays but he has also made some game changing mistakes...
                  Steelers 27
                  Rats 16

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                  • NJ-STEELER
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 12563

                    #24
                    Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

                    Originally posted by Dee Dub
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    Originally posted by Crash
                    You are missing the issue.

                    Wallace replacing Holmes is fine.

                    ARE/Sanders replacing Wallace is not.
                    $$$
                    I think by seasons end that issue wont be an issue either.

                    Emmanuel Sanders has the make up to be a legit number 2. He just needs playing time. As soon as they give it to him the sooner he takes over.
                    when your a team that can contend. you shouldn't go throwing years away waiting for someone.

                    especially when that other piece was already here

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                    • steelblood
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 4166

                      #25
                      Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      Originally posted by Dee Dub
                      Originally posted by Shawn
                      Originally posted by Crash
                      You are missing the issue.

                      Wallace replacing Holmes is fine.

                      ARE/Sanders replacing Wallace is not.
                      $$$
                      I think by seasons end that issue wont be an issue either.

                      Emmanuel Sanders has the make up to be a legit number 2. He just needs playing time. As soon as they give it to him the sooner he takes over.
                      he is getting time... he has made some decent plays but he has also made some game changing mistakes...
                      Wallace has had some big drops too.
                      Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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                      • Dee Dub
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4652

                        #26
                        Re: Santonio Holmes versus Mike Wallace..

                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        Originally posted by Dee Dub
                        Originally posted by Shawn
                        Originally posted by Crash
                        You are missing the issue.

                        Wallace replacing Holmes is fine.

                        ARE/Sanders replacing Wallace is not.
                        $$$
                        I think by seasons end that issue wont be an issue either.

                        Emmanuel Sanders has the make up to be a legit number 2. He just needs playing time. As soon as they give it to him the sooner he takes over.
                        he is getting time... he has made some decent plays but he has also made some game changing mistakes...
                        Not really..had Hines Ward not gotten hurt...Sanders does not have those 5 receptions. I am not just talking about suiting up and being on the field. I am talking about the Steelers getting him actively involved in the offense as a regular.

                        I am talking about when this kids is finally put ahead of ARE.
                        Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                        1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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