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  • Dee Dub
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2010
    • 4652

    From the Miami Herald...

    Home is where the ref is when it comes to blown call


    By ARMANDO SALGUERO
    [email="asalguero@MiamiHerald.com"]asalguero@MiamiHerald.com[/email]

    Home cooking. That's what it felt like when this game began and there were almost as many black jerseys and Terrible Towels in the stands as there were Dolphins fans. That's definitely how it felt when referee and Pittsburgh native Gene Steratore authored an epic collapse of the NFL replay system by correcting a bad call, but going only halfway on the fix.

    And that's how it felt when the Dolphins walked dejectedly off the field at Sun Life Stadium on Sunday, 23-22 losers, a team winless in three outings on what feels less and lees like their home field.

    ``Straight up, they took the game from us,'' an animated Karlos Dansby said as at least one teammate yelled, ``Preach!'' in the background.

    ``You can't do that to a team that's fighting like that. We fought [Sunday],'' he said. ``We fought a 76-round battle. It was a fight, a fistfight. And we were winning and we won it. And they took it from us. Bottom line, they knew we had the ball, they saw four people put their hands on the ball, and once you put your hands on it, that's possession. And we came up with the ball. There's no way you don't see that upstairs. Everybody saw it.''

    The person who needed to see Ikaika Alama-Francis come up with a Ben Roethlisberger fourth-quarter fumble in the end zone didn't see it. The replays confirmed to Steratore that the initial call of touchdown Pittsburgh was wrong, and he overturned that.

    PARTIAL CORRECTION

    But the replay didn't show Alama-Francis walking around in the end zone with the ball and then handing it to the back judge. And so Steratore ruled replay could not award the Dolphins the football.

    This, by the way, is an innovative way of using replay. It corrects a bang-bang call on the field that humans cannot be blamed for missing. But then prevents the humans from ruling on the recovery that was crystal clear to them because the cameras didn't capture it.

    ``They took the ball from Ike,'' Dansby continued. ``I asked the back judge and said, `You knew we had the ball.' He said, `Yeah, 59 had the ball. It's out of our hands. It's out of our control. The guys upstairs have to see it.' They took it from us, bottom line.''

    That is true and accurate and painful. It is so painful Dansby compared Sunday's loss to the one he suffered at the hands of these Steelers on a Super Bowl Sunday two years ago.

    There are two sides to this story: The Dolphins side and the wrong side. Several Steelers players claimed they recovered the Roethlisberger fumble once the ball was loose even though independent photos show otherwise.

    Roethlisberger actually said he had ``a whole arm around [the ball] until the ref was patting me on the back, saying, `Touchdown,' so I let it go.''

    Sure, Ben. And you weren't in that Georgia bathroom last summer, either.

    It also rubs salt in an open wound that Steratore is from Pittsburgh. He was born and reared in a suburb 30 miles outside the city and still lives and owns a business in the region. That is not a suggestion of impropriety but a statement of fact.

    The NFL, for all its proactive work on helmet-to-helmet hits to protect players, needs to do a better job protecting its integrity by doing one easy thing: Assign officials to games that do not involve their hometown teams.

    It's not Steratore's fault he's from Pittsburgh. But it is the NFL's fault that a Pittsburgh native made the key and controversial call in a game involving his hometown team and that call favored that team.

    The NFL is better than that. The NFL should be better than that.

    The Dolphins should also be better.

    This team is terrible at home. They cannot win at night and cannot win early in the day at home. There aren't many other choices, because the NFL isn't likely to grant dawn start times.

    Memo to the Dolphins: If you cannot win at home, you cannot make the playoffs no matter how much you fight and how well you play on the road.

    The Dolphins didn't play exceedingly well at home Sunday. The running game was absent. The third-down defense was absent. The special teams were inconsistent. And the offensive play-calling was at times inexplicable.

    STILL STEAMING

    One can argue the Dolphins should not have put themselves in a position that allows any official to decide an outcome. Fair. But it doesn't change the fact a blown call cost the Dolphins a win at home.

    ``I made the play that won us the game,'' Alama-Francis said afterward. ``It was a fumble and I recovered it in the end zone. But they ruled it the way they ruled it, and I just don't understand it. They did what they did.''


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  • steelerkeylargo
    Hall of Famer
    • Mar 2009
    • 2507

    #2
    Re: From the Miami Herald...

    I was at the game.....Dolphins fans took it like the always do....like losers. They went to the airwaves talkin bout how they were robbed. Not once did anyone say...ok...no points dolphin ball at 20....steelers have 3 TO's and 2 min. warning.....dolphins cant run dolphins cant stop our pass....3 and out we pass into FG range and kick the winner anyway!!!!






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    • brothervad
      Pro Bowler
      • Dec 2008
      • 1914

      #3
      Re: From the Miami Herald...

      you know what is sad?

      Media folks irresponsibly suggesting that because someone lives in Pennsylvania, that they can't be impartial.

      They are questioning a man's ethics, one who they know nothing about...hell he may not even be Steelers fan.

      But why not suggest that an honorable man cheated?

      Scumbags...

      brothervad

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      • Dee Dub
        Hall of Famer
        • Jan 2010
        • 4652

        #4
        Re: From the Miami Herald...

        Originally posted by brothervad
        you know what is sad?

        Media folks irresponsibly suggesting that because someone lives in Pennsylvania, that they can't be impartial.

        They are questioning a man's ethics, one who they know nothing about...hell he may not even be Steelers fan.

        But why not suggest that an honorable man cheated?

        Scumbags...

        brothervad
        How about this shot???

        "Sure, Ben. And you weren't in that Georgia bathroom last summer, either."
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        • NJ-STEELER
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 12563

          #5
          Re: From the Miami Herald...

          even if that was ruled a fumble, how the heck is the game over

          3 timeouts and the 2 minute warning left. our D cant stop them and make them punt?? STFU and go cover soccer ayehole

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          • NJ-STEELER
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 12563

            #6
            Re: From the Miami Herald...

            also, if there's bias from an official, why wouldn't he just say that there was inclusive evidence and keep the ruling a TD

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            • focosteeler
              Starter
              • May 2010
              • 760

              #7
              Re: From the Miami Herald...

              Originally posted by Dee Dub
              Originally posted by brothervad
              you know what is sad?

              Media folks irresponsibly suggesting that because someone lives in Pennsylvania, that they can't be impartial.

              They are questioning a man's ethics, one who they know nothing about...hell he may not even be Steelers fan.

              But why not suggest that an honorable man cheated?

              Scumbags...

              brothervad
              How about this shot???

              "Sure, Ben. And you weren't in that Georgia bathroom last summer, either."
              yeah thats a little uncalled for...they are just poor losers...it just makes up for the non-calls on Long holding harrison all game.
              1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
              2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
              3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
              4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
              5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
              6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
              7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340

              UDFA
              DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
              OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242

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              • Steelgal
                Pro Bowler
                • Aug 2008
                • 1286

                #8
                Re: From the Miami Herald...

                Adam Shefter came out today and said it was the right call, but a bad rule. Just like in the game earlier this year regarding a Lion's TD that was called not a catch. I agree. It was a bad call made on the field and it was overturned (the TD). However the rest of the play couldn't be changed due to the nature of what happened. We were on the fortunate end of that, but sometimes were not.

                Either way, the game is 60 minutes and this ONE play was far from the only thing that determined who won and who lost. The rest of the national media/fans can say what they want and complain. I'm not going to listen anymore

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                • proudpittsburgher
                  Pro Bowler
                  • May 2008
                  • 2377

                  #9
                  Re: From the Miami Herald...

                  ``You can't do that to a team that's fighting like that. We fought [Sunday],'' he said. ``We fought a 76-round battle. It was a fight, a fistfight. And we were winning and we won it. And they took it from us. Bottom line, they knew we had the ball, they saw four people put their hands on the ball, and once you put your hands on it, that's possession. And we came up with the ball. There's no way you don't see that upstairs. Everybody saw it.''
                  OK, a couple of things. Like the Steelers weren't fighting for that win as well? What an idiot.

                  And there were four guys with their hands on the ball, equalling possession. OK, And two of those hands were Steelers, Legursky and Ben. Did this guy even go through this in his head before he said it to the reporter?
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                  • Sugar
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3700

                    #10
                    Re: From the Miami Herald...

                    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                    also, if there's bias from an official, why wouldn't he just say that there was inclusive evidence and keep the ruling a TD
                    This!

                    How many times have we seen things that we thought would be overturned on replay only to hear that the call on the field stands? This call would have made it impossible for Miami to even get in FG range to win. Instead, the Steelers kicked a FG and gave the Phins plenty of time to get in range (which they couldn't do).

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                    • proudpittsburgher
                      Pro Bowler
                      • May 2008
                      • 2377

                      #11
                      Re: From the Miami Herald...

                      I expect to see this sort of thing on a blog, but not by a respected journalist. Really, really unprofessional.
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                      • Blitz-en
                        Benchwarmer
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 71

                        #12
                        Re: From the Miami Herald...

                        A couple of points:

                        - The fact that the ball was knocked out 3 inches before crossing the plain of the goal line was a very lucky break for a defense that just gave up an easy drive down the field. Not to mention the big kick off return. It was just as lucky that Pittsburgh had the ruling in their favor. Either way, one of the teams was going to be very lucky to win that one play batttle.

                        - Everybody in the world, including the entire Dolphins defense misunderstands the rules. When the ball crosses the goal line and TD is signaled, it's a dead play. ONLY if a clear recovery with no question occurs will they allow turnover of possession. It's happened about a hundred times in the NFL already, just none on the goal line in a close game. Haha, possession is NOT touching the ball.

                        - So, the writer takes a shot at the possible bias of the ref, while clearly reporting based on his own fanship, and questioning Ben's innocence in a totally unrelated issue. Wow, the media folks have surely thrown out any shred of integrity they ever had. I don't understand how people can write their opinions and pass them off as fact.

                        - I'd be more pissed, as a Dolphin fan, that we couldn't move the ball with 2+ minutes left in the game. Not to mention 5 FG's.

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                        • Djfan
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 5184

                          #13
                          Re: From the Miami Herald...

                          Originally posted by Blitz-en
                          A couple of points:

                          - The fact that the ball was knocked out 3 inches before crossing the plain of the goal line was a very lucky break for a defense that just gave up an easy drive down the field. Not to mention the big kick off return. It was just as lucky that Pittsburgh had the ruling in their favor. Either way, one of the teams was going to be very lucky to win that one play batttle.

                          - Everybody in the world, including the entire Dolphins defense misunderstands the rules. When the ball crosses the goal line and TD is signaled, it's a dead play. ONLY if a clear recovery with no question occurs will they allow turnover of possession. It's happened about a hundred times in the NFL already, just none on the goal line in a close game. Haha, possession is NOT touching the ball.

                          - So, the writer takes a shot at the possible bias of the ref, while clearly reporting based on his own fanship, and questioning Ben's innocence in a totally unrelated issue. Wow, the media folks have surely thrown out any shred of integrity they ever had. I don't understand how people can write their opinions and pass them off as fact.

                          - I'd be more pissed, as a Dolphin fan, that we couldn't move the ball with 2+ minutes left in the game. Not to mention 5 FG's.

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                          • pfelix73
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 3458

                            #14
                            Re: From the Miami Herald...

                            In my opinion it was a touchdown- A Steelers TD. There was nothing on the replay that could point 100% that Ben did NOT cross the plain of the goalline. Therefore, TD as was called by the ref.

                            How can you use a camera angle from behind the end zone as evidence that the ball did not cross the goal line? You can't.

                            Case closed. We're 5-1. Onward to Saints week.

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                            • stlrz d
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 9244

                              #15
                              Re: From the Miami Herald...

                              What's funny is this is his second article on this. In his first one he only mentioned that the officials were from PA.

                              I traded emails with him for about 30 minutes and he swore that his article never claimed bias from "hometown" officials.

                              I called him on it...I told him to cover soccer if he didn't understand NFL rules. He got mad and said it was a racist statement since he is Latino.

                              I replied that I never came right out and said that's why I thought he should cover soccer but that I saw how he could have taken it that way.



                              So I may be partially responsible for this second article.



                              You know what they say about those Latinos...fiery tempers!

                              (stlrz d is not racist and in no way condones racism in any way, shape or form)

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