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  • LasVegasGuy

    It's official FWP still ..................

    SUCKS!

    Again, I watched this guy put us in bad 3rd and longs situations because he can't shake off tacklers or get any yards up the middle. Teams have already figured it out that he always bounces to the outside and now they are just waiting for him. Maybe he should be returning kicks and let the real men run the ball. The days of picking up all his yardage to the outside appear to be over.

    Stats:
    10 Carries - 18 Yards (actually his longest carry was 9 yards, take away the 9 yard carry and you have 9 carries for 9 yards and a whopping 1 yard per carry).

    Now before everyone says the O-Line is the problem Mendenhall had 15 carries, 79 yards, case of the dropsies and his longest run was a 21 yarder. Take the 21 yard run away and you are looking at 14 carries for 58 yards which is a little over 4 yards a carry.) The fumbles can be corrected but FWP's running style can't be.
  • Shawn
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 15131

    #2
    Re: It's official FWP still ..................

    Ehhh...I'm not a huge Parker fan...but I think he is running harder. The problem? He will not get you tough yards and with our OL all yards are tough yards. With this line he is not a good fit. I stick by my opinion that I believe Mendy will be getting the majority of carries by week 6.
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    • LasVegasGuy

      #3
      Re: It's official FWP still ..................

      Originally posted by ShawnMedGuy
      Ehhh...I'm not a huge Parker fan...but I think he is running harder. The problem? He will not get you tough yards and with our OL all yards are tough yards. With this line he is not a good fit. I stick by my opinion that I believe Mendy will be getting the majority of carries by week 6.
      If he is running harder and getting 1 yard a carry, lord help us? I know it's the preseason but I was getting steamed yesterday watching him put us in 3rd and 8, 3rd and 9 situations all over again. As long as Mendy fixes the dropsies I would love to see what he can do carrying the load.

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      • Steel Life
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1535

        #4
        Re: It's official FWP still ..................

        I'm not the biggest fan of Parker, but I can't complain too much about him averaging around 1200 yards per season for the past three. A lot of teams would like to have that kind of production.

        As for the line...the first string was pathetic against the Vikings. To compare the first half results of the starters against those of the reserves in the 2nd half isn't a fair comparison.
        It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust & sweat & blood...

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        • stlrz d
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 9244

          #5
          Re: It's official FWP still ..................

          Mendenhall got most of his yards against the second and third team.

          AP didn't fare too well against our run D either...does he suck too?

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          • SteelTorch
            Pro Bowler
            • Jun 2008
            • 1361

            #6
            Re: It's official FWP still ..................

            Considering the O-line still looked soft and he was going against the number 1 ranked running defense from last year...I think I'll reserve my judgment.
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            • stlrz d
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 9244

              #7
              Re: It's official FWP still ..................

              I'm not saying Mendy won't be a good back...just sayin' back off Parker when Mendy didn't fare much better against the same guys.

              In the first half he had 2 carries for 4 yards and a fumble lost.

              [url="http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay?game_id=29821&displayPage=tab_play_by_p lay&season=2008&week=PRE3"]http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbypla ... &week=PRE3[/url]

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              • LasVegasGuy

                #8
                Re: It's official FWP still ..................

                Originally posted by stlrz d
                Mendenhall got most of his yards against the second and third team.

                AP didn't fare too well against our run D either...does he suck too?

                Stats aside you can see and feel that Adrian Peterson is a much better runner then FWP.

                Adrian Peterson had just as many yards as FWP last year and about 100 fewer carries.

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                • BigBen2112

                  #9
                  Re: It's official FWP still ..................

                  Actually, what I think we should do is trade Parker for a draft pick and let the rookie to plays exactly like that...a ROOKIE...start behind this great offensive-line juggernaut that we have here.

                  I think that'd be a sweet idea.

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                  • LasVegasGuy

                    #10
                    Re: It's official FWP still ..................

                    Originally posted by stlrz d
                    I'm not saying Mendy won't be a good back...just sayin' back off Parker when Mendy didn't fare much better against the same guys.

                    In the first half he had 2 carries for 4 yards and a fumble lost.

                    [url="http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay?game_id=29821&displayPage=tab_play_by_p lay&season=2008&week=PRE3"]http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbypla ... &week=PRE3[/url]

                    Dude, it's not one game. I have been watching this since he has been the starter. He is constantly putting us in third and long all game. Since you will be watching Steeler games in the comfort of your own home this year take a look at Parker and watch how many times he is handed the ball off 2 times in a row for 1 or 2 yards. It is then up to Ben and the offensive line to go out and get a first down. For us to keep teams guessing it is imparative that we have more succesful 1st and 2nd downs and if we do get to 3rd down it needs to be more like 3rd and 3 not 3rd and 8. Then you can go with a run or pass instead of teams knowing you have to pass.

                    Fix 1st and 2nd down production and Ben doesn't come close to 47 sacks this year and we also may start beating teams like the Jets and Cardinals.

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                    • stlrz d
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 9244

                      #11
                      Re: It's official FWP still ..................

                      Originally posted by LasVegasGuy
                      Originally posted by stlrz d
                      Mendenhall got most of his yards against the second and third team.

                      AP didn't fare too well against our run D either...does he suck too?

                      Stats aside you can see and feel that Adrian Peterson is a much better runner then FWP.

                      Adrian Peterson had just as many yards as FWP last year and about 100 fewer carries.
                      Just used him to illustrate a point. He only averaged 1.something against our starters. I'm not arguing that FWP is on par with AP...just that neither of them fared well against the opposition's #1 D...and neither did Mendy.

                      Mendy's best run came with just over 10 minutes left in the 3rd. Some of the Vikes starters were still in, but it was more of a mixed squad with backups as well. In the first half he had 2 carries for 4 yards and a fumble lost.

                      He'll get better but I'm not ready to write off FWP just yet.

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                      • LasVegasGuy

                        #12
                        Re: It's official FWP still ..................

                        Originally posted by BigBen2112
                        Actually, what I think we should do is trade Parker for a draft pick and let the rookie to plays exactly like that...a ROOKIE...start behind this great offensive-line juggernaut that we have here.

                        I think that'd be a sweet idea.

                        For a 1200 yard a year runner I bet we wouldn't get more then a 5th rounder for Parker. Front offices except for ours knows their is nothing special when it comes to Parker. Close the gaps to the outside and you contain Parker will be the motto this year for defenses. Bump this thread at the end of the year because I am saying he doesn't get 1000 yards this year.

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                        • BigBen2112

                          #13
                          Re: It's official FWP still ..................

                          Originally posted by LasVegasGuy
                          Originally posted by BigBen2112
                          Actually, what I think we should do is trade Parker for a draft pick and let the rookie to plays exactly like that...a ROOKIE...start behind this great offensive-line juggernaut that we have here.

                          I think that'd be a sweet idea.

                          For a 1200 yard a year runner I bet we wouldn't get more then a 5th rounder for Parker. Front offices except for ours knows their is nothing special when it comes to Parker. Close the gaps to the outside and you contain Parker will be the motto this year for defenses. Bump this thread at the end of the year because I am saying he doesn't get 1000 yards this year.

                          With this offensive line...the child of Barry Sanders, Jerome Bettis, and James Brown couldnt crack 1000 yards.

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                          • LasVegasGuy

                            #14
                            Re: It's official FWP still ..................

                            Originally posted by BigBen2112
                            Originally posted by LasVegasGuy
                            Originally posted by BigBen2112
                            Actually, what I think we should do is trade Parker for a draft pick and let the rookie to plays exactly like that...a ROOKIE...start behind this great offensive-line juggernaut that we have here.

                            I think that'd be a sweet idea.

                            For a 1200 yard a year runner I bet we wouldn't get more then a 5th rounder for Parker. Front offices except for ours knows their is nothing special when it comes to Parker. Close the gaps to the outside and you contain Parker will be the motto this year for defenses. Bump this thread at the end of the year because I am saying he doesn't get 1000 yards this year.

                            With this offensive line...the child of Barry Sanders, Jerome Bettis, and James Brown couldnt crack 1000 yards.
                            Good looking kid.

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                            • BigBen2112

                              #15
                              Re: It's official FWP still ..................

                              Originally posted by LasVegasGuy
                              Originally posted by BigBen2112
                              Originally posted by LasVegasGuy
                              Originally posted by BigBen2112
                              Actually, what I think we should do is trade Parker for a draft pick and let the rookie to plays exactly like that...a ROOKIE...start behind this great offensive-line juggernaut that we have here.

                              I think that'd be a sweet idea.

                              For a 1200 yard a year runner I bet we wouldn't get more then a 5th rounder for Parker. Front offices except for ours knows their is nothing special when it comes to Parker. Close the gaps to the outside and you contain Parker will be the motto this year for defenses. Bump this thread at the end of the year because I am saying he doesn't get 1000 yards this year.

                              With this offensive line...the child of Barry Sanders, Jerome Bettis, and James Brown couldnt crack 1000 yards.
                              Good looking kid.
                              If I was any good at photoshop I would have such a great picture for this occasion, but alas I dont.

                              It doesnt make my statement any less true though.

                              I mean even Jerome at his best could not carry all the guys this sh*t poor line is letting through..........and then have to carry his OL who are falling backwards....along with them.

                              OH and didnt you love how last night one of our guards pulled and our FB followed him and both completely missed the UNBLOCKED really really REALLY big DL who came in and crushed the RB?

                              Now that is a successful OL!

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